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The First Image Published on the Web

rcastro0 writes "A charming picture of "Les Horribles Cernettes" was the first ever to grace a web browser window, according to Silvano de Gennaro from the CERN Music Club site. He writes 'Back in 1992, after their show at the CERN Hardronic Festival, my colleague Tim Berners-Lee asked me for a few scanned photos of "the CERN girls" to publish them on some sort of information system he had just invented, called the "World Wide Web".' As an aside, the all-girl rock band is still singing about "colliders, quarks, microwaves, antiprotons and the Internet.""

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  1. Gasp! by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    "A charming picture of "Les Horribles Cernettes"... the all-girl rock band is still singing about "colliders, quarks, microwaves, antiprotons and the Internet."

    Gasp! Girl geeks! Be still my beating heart!

    Vital measurments: 503px by 400px w00-w00!

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    1. Re:Gasp! by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > Gasp! Girl geeks! Be still my beating heart!
      >Vital measurments: 503px by 400px w00-w00!

      LHC? Hey, it gave me a hadron.

    2. Re:Gasp! by RevDobbs · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Curious that the "first image on the web" is a JPEG with over 77 thousand colors... especially as Mosaic didn't get inline .jpg support until Spring '95, if I recall correctly.

      People looking to rewrite history should do their homework first :-)

    3. Re:Gasp! by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah and it's even weirder when you remember the WWW predates the graphical browser. So I guess Tim Berner's Lee posted the image but no one saw it until Mosaic was released.

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    4. Re:Gasp! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mosaic wasn't the first GUI web browser. IIRC, that was Berners-Lee's browser that he wrote for a NeXT machine. He could have had .jpg support long before Mosaic.

    5. Re:Gasp! by rk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, that's okay, 'cause so am I. :D

    6. Re:Gasp! by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, back in 1992 the web was mostly text. For a 217K image, you didn't view the picture inline on a webpage.

      You would download the file and view the image in an external image viewer; sort of like how you would do it via FTP or Gopher.

      And yes, I remember having a 1200 Baud modem, which was about as fast as the LHC is right now under the Slashdot effect :)

    7. Re:Gasp! by DarkMantle · · Score: 3, Informative

      this images does not predate image viewers.

      Exactly, the site says it was the first image ever clicked on. Not viewed inline.

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  2. And the second image by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was those same women with their clothes off.

    1. Re:And the second image by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Interesting

      ctually this is how the whole porn cult started.

      I can honestly say that within an hour or two of using Mosaic for the first time way back when (1992-93), starting with 'oh, you can click on some text and it will take you somewhere else?', I was browsing porn (at work, no less.)

    2. Re:And the second image by Gromius · · Score: 5, Funny

      bet that would give somebody a hadron... /ducks

    3. Re:And the second image by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
      > And the second image
      > Was those same women with their clothes off.

      Close, but not quite. It was those same women with their undergarments simultaneously teleported one foot to the left, in accordance with the theory of indeterminacy.

      Many respectable physicists said that they weren't going to stand for such a thing, partly because it was a debasement of science, but mostly because they didn't get invited to those sort of parties.

    4. Re:And the second image by RevDobbs · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure was... if they were using IE back in '92 ::snicker::

    5. Re:And the second image by drix · · Score: 3, Funny

      The porn finds you, silly. Honestly, how long have you been on this "Internet" thing? A day? ;)

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    6. Re:And the second image by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Same here -- this guy comes over to my house and says "Hey there's a new way of getting porn where you don't have to run uudecode!!".

  3. Passed what??? by jdray · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...I was passing an historical milestone...

    Is that more painful than passing a kidney stone?

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    1. Re:Passed what??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


      But can the goatse guy pass himself? Welcome to the klein bottle version of goatse.

  4. Old-skool by mboverload · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was tranfering pictures with fricken teletypes long before this.

    1. Re:Old-skool by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I was tranfering pictures with fricken teletypes long before this.

      Man. I remember those. We had a stash of them on the old PDP 11. Andy Capp, a shapely woman, some other cutesy stuff. Took ages to print on Model 43 TeleTypes, but they had the best quality print.

      They probably still reside somewhere on the internet.

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    2. Re:Old-skool by Alien+Being · · Score: 4, Funny

      chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga zip
      chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga zip
      chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga zip
      ooh, yeah baby, that's it
      chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga zip
      chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga zip
      a little more
      chugga chugga chugga chugga ding ding ding ding

  5. The web, then, as now. by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 5, Funny

    One word: Cleavage

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  6. Girl Band! by clean_stoner · · Score: 5, Funny

    A girl band singing about physics?! It's a nerd's dream come true.

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    1. Re:Girl Band! by Gromius · · Score: 5, Funny

      and I hear they have massive bosons too :)

    2. Re:Girl Band! by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny
      A girl band singing about physics?! It's a nerd's dream come true.

      The actually kinda remind me of the B-52's...

      radio shack is a little old place we can get together, radio shack, bayyy-beeee!

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    3. Re:Girl Band! by tweedlebait · · Score: 2, Interesting

      valence band? http://britneyspears.ac/physics/basics/basics.htm Yet the LHC girls are much cuter.

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    4. Re:Girl Band! by Impeesa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As opposed to what, a physicist singing about physics?

    5. Re:Girl Band! by ScruffyScrode · · Score: 3, Funny

      A girl band singing about physics?! It's a nerd's dream come true.

      So you are telling us you had a nerdgasm?

    6. Re:Girl Band! by BorgHunter · · Score: 2, Funny

      That would be helpful in getting their phonon number. Oh wait, it's 0...

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    7. Re:Girl Band! by ralphclark · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah but they're labelled W and Z and one is rumoured to be more massive than the other.

  7. Alas by opusman · · Score: 2, Funny

    "How was I to know that I was passing an historical milestone, as the one above was the first picture ever to be clicked on in a web browser!"

    The first picture on the web maybe, but only one of countless slashdotted sites.

  8. of course by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny

    it's a no brainer that the first photo on the web is of seductively posed young women

    that's been the basis of the web ever since

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    1. Re:of course by fyoder · · Score: 4, Funny
      I used to think that Tim Berners-Lee could never have anticipated that the web would become a major porn delivery system. Now I discover he started it.

      I had thought it was intended for physicists to use to share data. I suppose that could still be said to be true, and that it is just my assumptions about the nature of the data that were wrong.

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  9. ...and then, the unthinkable. by LakeSolon · · Score: 5, Funny

    And then it was posted to Slashdot. Well, it had a good run.

    ~Lake

    1. Re:...and then, the unthinkable. by CA_Jim · · Score: 4, Funny

      On the other hand, a picture of pretty women was posted on the web for 12 years before slashdot hit them. It makes you wonder if /. crowd is slowing down.

  10. Slashdot server... by clean_stoner · · Score: 5, Funny

    slows to a halt as four thousand nerds all simultaneously click "Submit" on their joke about nerdy girls in a band.

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  11. Sloooow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And of course, the picture is loading about as fast as it would have when the web was first invented.

  12. floating hand??? by sandmtyh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    who's floating hand is that on the red dress?

    1. Re:floating hand??? by theTerribleRobbo · · Score: 2, Informative

      She has her left elbow close to her waist, and has her left hand turned outwards, you twit.

  13. What Kind Of Scanner... by norm1153 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...was available for Macs in '92? Color even?

    1. Re:What Kind Of Scanner... by RatBastard · · Score: 4, Informative

      Welp, I had an Abaton 300 DPI SCSI scanner on my PC that was originally a Mac scanner. That was back in 1991 or 1992. Back when Everex (who owned Abaton) was still alive. It was a three-pass monstrosity that overheated on the third pass half the time, resulting in red streaks down the image.

      I remember selling scanners for Macs years before people on PCs were interested in them back in the late 1980's and early 1990's.

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    2. Re:What Kind Of Scanner... by javaxman · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Dude, it was 1992, not frickin' 1982... I was honestly shocked to hear an HTTP image wasn't transfered earlier. It must have been early in '92... I would have thought a black & white image would have been done first.

      What did you think those SCSI connectors were for ?

      There was a $500 or so color hand scanner, and apple sold a few scanners themselves, if I recall. Google for it if you're really curious.

      Still, an actual scanner was a rarity back in the day. I was always impressed that so many images were on Usenet...

  14. A mirror by James_G · · Score: 4, Informative
  15. News for nerds by Azul · · Score: 2, Funny

    Stuff that matters, indeed.

    1. Re:News for nerds by Lisandro · · Score: 2, Funny

      Come on, have you seen the bands' lyrics?

      You poured liquid nitrogen down my spine
      as you told me you didn't love me any more
      and run off with the girl next door
      You poured liquid nitrogen in my heart
      and you told me it wouldn't hurt, what a liar
      You promised you'd always be true

      You said you'd be mine 12 months a year, 24 hours a day
      You said I'd be yours each week my dear, until the end of time
      But then you found her and you left me here
      To cry and to run of tears
      And now here I wait 12 months a year
      But I'm hoping one day you'll come back and stay


      You can almost hear the nerds orgasming at once while reading those.

  16. Followed by.. by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
    Was those same women with their clothes off.

    Followed by the first SpyWare...

    please tell us about your web surfing experience in an email, be sure to include anything you yourself have typed, such as credit card numbers, expiration dates, password, PIN numbers, and so on.

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  17. Torrent by TorrentNinja · · Score: 2, Informative

    On musiclub.web.cern.ch/musiclub/bands/cernettes/ there was a large 57MB Real Player RM file that will probably get /.'ed so I created a torrent. HERE is the TORRENT LHCLive.rm Peace

  18. Typical /. late coverage by Piquan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, this information was known for what, 12 years?

    1. Re:Typical /. late coverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just wait -- it'll be on /. again in a day or two. ;)

  19. particular matters by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hardonic Festival? So the Web was actually produced for porn, and all this physics crap clogging it up is just scientists getting a free ride.

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  20. img tags didn't exist then by dananderson · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:img tags didn't exist then by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Tim Berners-Lee spoke out against the img tag when it was first created, because it broke backwards compatibility. The correct implementation, he argued, would have put the alt text between and tags, so that browsers that didn't understand the tag would get the alternate text automatically, while browsers that did could hide the text (or display it as a tool tip or something).

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    2. Re:img tags didn't exist then by sepluv · · Score: 3, Informative
      I'm glad to hear that. This is the obvious way of doing it, and I couldn't think why on earth he didn't do it that way.

      That's how it is in XHTML 2.0 anyway, so he's got his way now.

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  21. Developing Web Browsers by n0dalus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Surely the first image to appear in a web browser was one during the development of the browser. You don't just chuck in some code and wait for your users to tell you if it loads images or not. Images would have been one of the first things tested.
    Even the standards for displaying the images were thought up and hopefully tested long before the first image compatable web browser was made.

  22. Eh, they suck. by InThane · · Score: 2, Funny

    Their home page uses the blink tag, what more proof do you need?

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  23. I am using Lynx, you... by melikamp · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am using Lynx, you insensitive clod!

    1. Re:I am using Lynx, you... by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here's the ascii version:

      /O\ /O\
      -|---|--
      / \ / \

  24. OMG! by asdfasdfasdfasdf · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd Hit it!!!

    Oh, wait. Crap. Wrong website.

  25. I swear that's what I read! by NoData · · Score: 3, Funny

    AWWW. Damn you. I actually did misread the caption, which in actuality reads:

    Back in 1992, after their show at the CERN Hardronic Festival, my colleague Tim Berners-Lee asked me for a few scanned photos of "the CERN girls" to publish them on some sort of information system he had just invented, called the "World Wide Web". ...

    CERN Hard-onic festival?! Wha wha wha?!!!! I thought they were Swiss not Swedes...

    But damn. The second one from the left..niiiice. Got that Susanna Hoffs thang going on.

  26. A different world! by Gil-galad55 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I worked at CERN a couple of summers ago and saw the Cernettes and other physicsfolken band play at the Hardronic festival. I have to say, it's an otherworldly experience. CERN is one of those weird meshing places where there's an overload of talent. You'll walk out of a lecture on the Standard Model and hear someone in the next room roaring through a Beethoven sonata, or pass by the terrace and see the old hands of particle physics, maybe even a Nobel laureate, chucking around a frisbee. I found it extremely inspiring.

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  27. Re:Teaser by cpghost · · Score: 4, Funny

    C'mon, baby, let me show you my pointer.

    Uh, that dangling pointer?

    /ducks :)

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  28. This has to be fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    "You are looking at the VERY FIRST photo ever published on the web!"

    Except that "very first photo" is called "LHC5.jpg". No web browser supported jpeg format until Netscape.

    I call shenanigans.

    1. Re:This has to be fake by plcurechax · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually all the early browsers didn't have inline attachment support. They either dumped it to a file (Save As...) or based on the MIME type (graphics/jpeg) they would launch an external application like xv.

    2. Re:This has to be fake by Anthony+Boyd · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You are right, that probably isn't the actual, exact file that appeared. However, look at the skin of the women: grainy, dithered. Look at the colors of their dresses: large swaths of flat color. In other words, it appears that it was a 256 color GIF at some point, and then was converted to JPEG. Now, it still could be fake on a grander scale, such as perhaps the first photo on the Web was not in fact a photo of the LHC girls. I don't know. But at the very least, this JPEG appears to be crappy enough that it's plausibe it used to be an old-skool GIF. Old browsers could display GIFs.

    3. Re:This has to be fake by node+3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The first web browser was on NEXTSTEP (now called OS X), which supported jpeg natively. If you support images at all using NEXSTEP's built-in objects (I assume it was NSImage then as now), you automatically get jpeg support. You'd have to pretty much have some reason not to show jpegs if you weren't going to include support for them, unlike Netscape (nee Mosaic) where the developers had to add in all the formats you wanted individually (graphics format support wasn't all that advanced back then under most Unices, as Rasterman wouldn't start on imlib for about 4-5 years).

    4. Re:This has to be fake by loconet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      loconet ~ $> lynx --dump 'http://musiclub.web.cern.ch/MusiClub/bands/cernet tes/pictures/LHC5.jpg' | strings | more
      JFIF
      Photoshop 3.0
      8BIM
      8BIM
      8BIM
      8BIM'
      8BIM
      8BIM
      8BIM
      Ad obe

      Looks like this one file was created using Photoshop 3.0 which released back in 1994. So it is either fake or resaved at around that time.

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    5. Re:This has to be fake by CRCulver · · Score: 2, Funny

      The first web browser was on NEXTSTEP...

      No, it was on NeXTStep. Capitalisation is meaningful here, as NEXTSTEP was the name given to the system only after NeXT hardware was abandoned. Berners-Lee did all his work on NeXT hardware, in the NeXTStep days. See ObjectFarm's OpenStep Confusion.

  29. Torrent by TorrentNinja · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is a torrent of the Geek Girls :P

    Geek Girls

    Peace

  30. Obligatory by MagicDude · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd hit it....


    Wait, isn't this Fark?

  31. Les Horribles Cernettes .... ? by ggvaidya · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was anybody else even slightly scared that they were going to get Goatse?

    (oh: sweet open-sourced information! Get some while it lasts!)

  32. Re:Oh, come on! by enosys · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, he failed because he forgot to mention SCO

  33. "Les Horribles Cernettes" tidbits by dantheman82 · · Score: 2, Informative

    A few notes on how the band started:
    The group -- which bills itself as "the one and only High Energy Rock Band" -- formed in 1990 when a secretary at CERN complained that her physicist boyfriend spent his nights and weekends smashing protons in an underground collider. She confessed her woes to friend and computer scientist at the laboratory, Silvano de Gennaro, who wrote a song about her plight.

    From that episode, "Collider" was born:

    I gave you a golden ring to show you my love
    You went to stick it in a printed circuit
    To fix a voltage leak in your collector
    You plug my feelings into your detector
    You never spend your nights with me
    You don't go out with other girls either
    You prefer your collider
    You only love your collider
    Your collider.

    Other songs:
    "Surfing on the Web" (Surf me on the Web/ My page is all for you/ Call me on the Web/ I'll open my windows to you), "Strong Interaction" (You quark me up/ You quark me down/ You quark me top/ You quark me bottom), and "Computer Games" (Since you've gone away/ I've got a million games to play/ I've got your 80 megabytes full of computer games)

    An interesting start to downloading of pictures on the web...

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  34. BBC Images Were More Impressive by superultra · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I remember back in the day when people collected images for the mere sake that it looked cool to have a semi-recognizable picture on a computer screen. I can clearly recall calling my parents from the other room to look at Captain Kirk in EGA color and them not being at all as impressed as I was. Or when VGA hit, balloons, and those images of the rose, the clown, and that girl with the hot lips were on every single floppy shareware disc.

    Those were weird times. Downloading images from BBS's merely because it was cool to have your monitor display images.

    Has anyone ever come across an archive of those old BBS EGA/VGA images?

    1. Re:BBC Images Were More Impressive by kobotronic · · Score: 2, Informative

      I know what you mean. Golden times.
      Also there were many images converted from the nice Deluxe Paint IFF images on the Amiga.

      A few sites on the net appears to collect these old files. I have a modest archive with the entire contents of some BBS image folders from 1989 to 1990. Try searching for yrose.gif, clown.gif, cheetah.gif, mouse.gif - they sometimes yield a cache of these things.

      http://www-vms.uoregon.edu/~sergiok/GIFS/

      There's one...

  35. I'd hit it by StormyWeather · · Score: 2, Funny

    with my supercollider.