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AOL Opening Up AIM Community to Third Parties

DaffyD writes "Refocusing its vision for AOL Instant Messenger, America Online is endeavoring to revitalize the service by opening up its community and presence to third parties. In addition to partners such as CareerBuilder, AOL is seeking to enlist independent developers to build extended AIM services and hopes to offer a plug-in architecture by the end of the year. ICQ recently added such functionality through its open XML-based Xtras feature. Maybe AOL is feeling the heat from alternatives such as Gaim and Adium."

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  1. <AOL>Me, too!</AOL> by fembots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Next up is presence integration with CareerBuilder's online recruiting Web site. Job seekers can now register their AIM Screen Name with their resume to provide prospective employers with a real-time connection. A user's online status will be indicated by the Running Man icon.

    Whatever you do, just make sure you change your screen name once you got the job, your new boss may be checking out your running man while you're supposed to be working.

  2. Cleary a response by w.p.richardson · · Score: 3, Interesting
    To being ditched by Time Warner.

    Opening these formats for development will cause more innovation, which can't be bad for the bottom line.

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    1. Re:Cleary a response by geoffspear · · Score: 4, Informative
      They didn't.

      They did, however, drop "AOL" from their name and changed their stock ticker symbol from "AOL" to "TWX" when they realized that a major media corporation being bought up by an internet provider that spent more money sending CDs to every person on the planet than it will ever make selling internet services was really, really, stupid.

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    2. Re:Cleary a response by Disoculated · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Informative? AOL may be a lot of things, but it made almost a BILLION dollars in profit last year. The declining stock price is the result of the bubble and a shrinking member base, but they're getting better and better at squeezing green out of the stones they have left.


      More like the merger completed right at the time the bubble burst, and Time Warner was really pissed off that the 'money' they'd been bought with was suddenly worthless. Couple that with AOL's haughty attitude in trying to unify the technology of the company, and you get a blind hatred of the AOL unit by the rest of TW. That hatred, more than anything else, is what's sabotaged AOL from becoming anything better in the past five years.


      I mean, c'mon. AOL can't even get the rest of TWX to put any syndicated content other than People and a snippet or two of CNN in it's bowels, when the whole point of merging was to do just that. Time Warner hasn't given it any of the cable access promised, no real content except movie trailers, no access to it's music holdings, and no respect in it's press. I think they WANT it to die rather than realize they were as gullible as everyone else back in 1999.


      Hopefully this'll help turn them around. I mean, yeah, it's AOL. Not very exciting of a tech company. But they've done a lot of open source work (yes, seriously. Mozilla, TCL Aim, AOLServer) and they're one of the most powerful litigants against spam and for online privacy. They've also been a good stepping stone for millions of people before heading out to the 'real' internet. Having them around has probably done more good than harm to the geek community.

  3. Please god let them do it right by hsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And not let spyware type stuff get added to it. Lets hope their "addon" framework is a bit better than IE's "addon" framework.

    1. Re:Please god let them do it right by RM6f9 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Oops, too late: a default install currently includes viewpoint, weatherbug, and ezula.

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    2. Re:Please god let them do it right by juberti · · Score: 5, Informative

      Man oh man, I hear you. I've been in charge of the design of the AIM plugin framework, and while I think we are going to have some real good stuff there, I'm also really trying to get us to dial back on the bundled crap - I think it really turns off developers to install something that drops lots of other stuff on your machine.

      But we're going to have a nice platform, with web services, SIP gateways, client plug-ins, and a client SDK; there's different levels of intergration depending on what you're trying to do. I just hope that the clever developers out there look at this as an opportunity to build something that millions of people could be using, and aren't put off by prejudice against AIM/AOL.

      Anyway - if you want us to "do it right", I'd appreciate it if you would let us know what you would like to see! Email me at juberti [aol.com], or post to my [new] blog on this topic. http://journals.aol.com/juberti/runningman

  4. Competition by dcarey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yup, nothing like good old competition to make a company become more innovative.

    Oh, wait ...

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  5. YES! by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I hope this is a sign of great things to come. I know that the GAIM, Bitlbee, and other crowds will hear this as music to our ears.

  6. Smart move, but... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't really think it'll save them....they need to bring something new to the table, and all they're doing here is bringing more of what everyone else has already brought.

    Too little too late, IMHO.

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  7. What an about-face! by bigtallmofo · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is one of the larger episodes of back-pedaling that I've seen in a while.

    Example 1
    Example 2

    AOL has been fighting for years to keep other IM cilent makers off their network. Amazing what a shrinking user base will do for a company.

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    1. Re:What an about-face! by caryw · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hilarious that a couple of years ago a judge ruled that they have to open up their network before offering advanced features such as Video IM. They stubbornly stayed their ground and the FCC finally lifted the ruling once they lost some market share to Yahoo/MSN IM clients. And now they're opening it up anyway, shows how times have changed. I remember there being a slashdot article about this ages ago but I couldn't find it. Easy karma for anyone who does.
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  8. Why No Standard? by moofdaddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why haven't they come up with a real and competitive standard yet? There are a number of different instant messaging networks out there, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, etc. and while I understand they want to keep their networks closed so they can force people to use their player, why not establish one standard and let people choose which client to use.

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    1. Re:Why No Standard? by Jerf · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There is an IETF standard, XMPP. And as it is rather extensible, I'm sure it can do whatever AOL thinks they want to make their protocol do.

      The problem is, other than Jabber, nobody (AFAIK) has implemented it. Ever so slowly, but ever so surely, it is sinking in that there is no longer any point to having your own "gated community" when everybody just has an account on all of the services and uses a multi-network IM client that still doesn't show your commercials.

      If AOL chooses to release something other than XMPP that tries to solve the same problems, only in AOL's way, developers should shun the new protocol and insist that AOL implement the standard instead of creating their own. Things that can connect to XMPP exist today. Nothing today exists that can use Tomorrow's Yet Another Proprietary AOL Protocol.

      Until this occurs, it still won't have fully sunk in. IM is commoditizing. Actually, it's already a commodity, and only by artificially locking up the market have the large networks made it even this far, and that is an unnatural, unstable accomplishment that will inevitably break down, not something to build a business on.

    2. Re:Why No Standard? by Cthefuture · · Score: 3, Informative

      You mean like Jabber? ;)

      I've been trying to get to their development stuff for the last several weeks. Many of their source projects are currently shut off due to a break-in. I'm especially interested in documentation for libjabberoo.

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    3. Re:Why No Standard? by dago · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In fact, that's part of the problem ... they are 3 different standards now :

      * SIMPLE (RFC3428, based on SIP)
      * XMPP (RFC3920, based on jabber work)
      * WirelessVillage (from the OpenMobileAlliance)

      Fun, eh, there are as many open standards as proprietary networks.

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    4. Re:Why No Standard? by cuijian · · Score: 5, Informative
      There is an IETF standard, XMPP. And as it is rather extensible, I'm sure it can do whatever AOL thinks they want to make their protocol do.

      The problem is, other than Jabber, nobody (AFAIK) has implemented it.


      The next version of iChat AV, Apple's IM/Video Conferencing Application will feature XMPP/Jabber Interoperability. They have been using it for iChat to iChat communications for a while and now have fully implemented the standard and are opening up to 3rd party implementations.

      http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/ichat.html

      The upcoming iChat AV server also supports 3rd party XMPP/Jabber clients:

      http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/tiger/
  9. They bring servers by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dont forget they IM type services require servers to function..

    AOL is brining that to the table.. Without those servers, clients will be all dressed up with nowhere to go..

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  10. Here's a Clue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "America Online is endeavoring to revitalize the service by opening up its community and presence to third parties."

    You want to revitalize the service? Don't install a bunch of extra crap (like "get AOL Broadband NOW!" icons) on my computer when I grab your messenger. Ad-generated revenue is acceptable in a "free" service, but keep it in the buddy list window, please, instead of popping up a bunch of other windows. Don't make me go buy DeadAIM or whatever just to use your messenger without the kind of problems that make me think of spyware and adware.

    That would go a long way to "revitalizing."

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  11. here's an idea for 'revitalization' by Doktor+Memory · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about releasing a version of the AIM client that is actually more enjoyable to use than the previous one, instead of more annoying?!

    Weirdly enough, when people install an instant messenger client on their computers, their first thought doesn't tend to be "Oh boy, I hope this thing gives me a stock ticker and a dozen popup advertisement windows!"

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  12. Hmm... by JoeLinux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I were them, I'd find about USING gaim...its existing plug-in system has been tried and true, and can be used in many different OSs already. It can even plug into alternate IM systems while keeping the "AIM" name (G-AIM!) It could be like google: "Get on GAIM and talk to so-and-so...he's on MSN Messenger I think" The ads would still go to GAIM/AOL. Just a thought.

    But hey...what do I know?

  13. Smart Move, AOL by randyest · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Instant messaging is big, and it's only going to get bigger. We even use it at work to hold beind-the-scenes asynchronous internal-only discussions between team members at different sites as we attend teleconferences with customers.

    We used to use our cellphones for this, but the annoying rings and need to mute the main conference phone to talk with colleagues to establish strategies or get our stories consistent was a hassle.

    Whoever has the easiest to use and most features in messenger clients is going to have an opportunity to make some money out of it in the neear future, especially as such clients get integrated into other devices (PDAs, cellphones, MP3 players? Network appliances? Toaster? :)

    The interesting parts include the gist:

    Major partners aren't the only focus for the company's new AIM vision. AOL is seeking to enlist independent developers to build extended services and points to ICQ's Xtras functionally as an example of its growing success with ISVs. AOL is working to provide a plug-in architecture by the end of this year.

    "Our goal is to offer instant access to the AOL Instant Messenger service and the familiar AIM Buddy List feature everywhere consumers are and want to be, from their email application to their favorite online communities," said Chamath Palihapitiya, vice president and general manager for AIM and ICQ.

    "As the real time communications service of choice for tens of millions of Americans, the AIM service brings dynamic interactivity to the sites and services that people use everyday."

    Overall, AIM will play an important role in AOL's newfound portal strategy. In telephone interview, an AOL spokesperson told BetaNews that the company is at, "Just a beginning of where we intend to take the product," and promised deeper integration with other AOL Web properties.
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  14. Re:Me, too! by mzwaterski · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd be more concerned about someone else hopping on your computer when ProspectiveEmployer91241 sends a message to you...

  15. Re:Now all they have to do... by Skye16 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Hell, have you seen their goddam welcome screen for AIM yet (from Aim Express, and I quote):
    WHAT?! U R Still On the Old AIM!

    AIM 5.9 Allows U To Do So Much More W/ UR Buds
  16. Re:Don't Forget Trillian by myspys · · Score: 5, Informative

    i had this problem

    since upgrading to trillian 3 the problem has vanished

    have you tried trillian _3_?

  17. Nice Dilbert tagline by Weaselmancer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Refocusing its vision for AOL Instant Messenger, America Online is endeavoring to revitalize the service by opening up its community and presence to third parties.

    Refocusing its vision? Endeavoring to revitalize??

    I could feel my hair starting to get pointy just reading that much.

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  18. not open protocols by Anonymouse+Cownerd · · Score: 5, Informative
    This does not mean that AOL is releasing specs on their OSCAR protocol, which would have been great. AIM, iChat, and ICQ run on OSCAR. OSCAR is proprietary and will continue to be proprietary. If AOL can extend OSCAR for Apple for the purpose of video chatting, they can easily extend OSCAR for other features. TOC is AOL's string based open source protocol - a subset of OSCAR. TOC is free but is limited in features.

    What would have been great is if AOL released the specs for OSCAR, AND provided hooks to the protocol to allow various feature extensions. This will never happen, as once OSCAR is opened, there will be a barrage of third party AIM clients that do not show ads.

    Even now, is very easy to develope an application to track the online status of AIM/iChat users, using, for example Net::AIM, NET::TOC and other modules.

    Big deal.

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  19. Trillian Rocks! by Ranger · · Score: 3, Informative

    I only use AIM when those I want to chat with can't or won't use ICQ, which unfortunately is most of them. Thankfully, I don't have to use AIM to do it anymore. I use Trillian and it works just fine w/ AIM. And I can use my ICQ and Yahoo Messenger accounts.

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  20. great by Arctic+Dragon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Managers will now receive hundreds of "LMAO HER3S MAH RESUM3 FOR CONSIEDRATION LOL!!!!! WTF" messages.

  21. Look to skype, not GAIM or MSN by Matt+Clare · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I don't think AOL are too concerned about having an open standard, blah blah.... I think they see VoIP and Skype as the next bet thing and want to get people like Vonage to use AIM IDs to call people.

    You can do this now with 3rd party systyems like iChat and Macromedia Flash's lattest derivative Breeze.

    Think MS Passport, only useful.

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  22. Not at all by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing in the article says they're opening up to alternative AIM clients. They are allowing companies to "partner" with them, probably involving large licensing fees, to add AIM "presence" (on/offline information) into their products and produce approved plugins for the advertising-riddled official client. That doesn't help GAIM or Adium or Jabber or any other open-source project. It probably doesn't help Trillian either.

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  23. Feeling the heat? by Pedrito · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe AOL is feeling the heat from alternatives such as Gaim and Adium.

    You must be kidding! I mean Gaim is great and all, but AOL and AIM have at least 4 orders of magnitude more users than Gaim and Adium combined. I doubt they're feeling a great deal of heat.

  24. Key to interoperability: server to server protocol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    AIM is only a non-propreitary system when they have released a fully documented server to server protocol which any foreign server can use to allow its users to communicate with AOL users, and does not require any special prior arrangement for the connection to be made or interface to be used, and does not restrict the protocol from being implemented and used without restriction in open source software.

    The key to an IM system being open I believe is a completely documented fully functional server to server interface which allows any foreign IM system with its own user namespace, run by anyone to interface with it and to communicate with its users. It works like this, lets you have seperate systems at servicea.com, and serviceb.com, each service has its own user namespace, meaning each manages its own database of usernames and username registration, so each server can have a user named, for instance, joeuser. joeuser@servicea.com would send an IM to joeuser@serviceb.com, and servicea.com would open a server to server connection to serviceb.com and the message would be sent between the services. Unlike IRC, the connection is made without prior arrangement, any server can connect to any other server when the user tries to send a message between the two.