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Unix servers up 2.7%, Linux servers up 35.6%

cfelde writes "Linux servers up 35.6% and other Unix servers are up 2.7%. Also worldwide server revenue increased 6.2 percent to US$49 billion in 2004. The blade server market nearly doubled in size to over $1.1 billion in 2004 and 7 percent of x86 shipments in the U.S. were blade servers."

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  1. It's Linux *revenue* that's up 35%, not count by 14erCleaner · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the article:

    When it comes to operating systems, Unix and Windows servers continued to grow. Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion.

    Linux servers represented 9 percent of worldwide server revenue in 2004, which is 35.6 percent growth compared to the year before.

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  2. Some of the UNIX's that are still n the market by speighd · · Score: 4, Informative

    HP (HP-UX) Sun (Solaris) IBM (AIX) One could also claim that the BSD versions (like Apple OS/X) fall in the category.

  3. Linux server revenue almost equals M$-Windows by Husgaard · · Score: 3, Informative
    TFA states that total server revenue in 2004 was US$49 billion, and that 9% of this was Linux servers. This amounts to US$4.41 billion. M$-Windows server revenue was US$4.6 billion in 2004.

    Looks like Linux is catching up on M$-Windows.

    1. Re:Linux server revenue almost equals M$-Windows by troop23 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Your misquoting the article. The figures for Unix and Windows was $5.2 billion and $4.6 billion for the forth quarter only. That anualizes to $20.8 billion and $18.4 billion for the year. The Linux number is for the whole year.

      When it comes to operating systems, Unix and Windows servers continued to grow. Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion.

      Linux servers represented 9 percent of worldwide server revenue in 2004, which is 35.6 percent growth compared to the year before.

    2. Re:Linux server revenue almost equals M$-Windows by Paul+Jakma · · Score: 4, Informative

      M$-Windows server revenue was US$4.6 billion in 2004.

      No, the windows/unix figures were for the last quarter of 2004, quoting the article:

      Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion.

      Multiply by 4 to get ~$25G for Unix, $18G for Windows. So that puts Linux at somewhere around 1/4 of MS Windows. It also explains the "missing $34G" the other poster referred to. It isnt missing, 25+18+4.4 = 47.4G, so non-Windows/Unix/Linux revenue is somewhere between $1G to $2G.

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  4. Missing from the summary by bonch · · Score: 4, Informative

    Missing from the summary was mention of Windows growth--"When it comes to operating systems, Unix and Windows servers continued to grow. Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion."

    That's really good for a non-UNIX server.

  5. Re:The Linux Increase Can Be Attributed to by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Xserver from apple is doing pretty well, from what I hear it is very good product. I would also say that SUN is not dead yet. SGI... Well they do seem to have some cool stuff still. I wish them well.

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  6. Re:Who is still selling UNIX? by owlstead · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, for starters:

    IBM has AIX
    Sun has Solaris
    HP has HPUX (waiting to be retired in all probability)
    SCO - oh forget SCO, they are pretty much a non-player

    You'd be amazed how many proprietary Unix systems are still out there. Don't forget that a lot of servers are running a specific software suite or on specific hardware. But the server itself needs to be updated once in a while.

    And a lot of businesses like an OS that is very stable, if not that cool or up to date. The one time that I saw Solaris crash was due to hardware errors (and there were quite some Solaris workstations situated at university). Yes, I've seen Linux crashes, before you ask.

  7. Re:No mention of BSD! by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 2, Informative

    FOr a good chunk of time, Unix could be broken up into two flavors, more or less: SCO Unix and BSD Unix. This is why BSD gets grouped in with unix... because that is what it is.

    We've all got our copy of the Devil Book right(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201061961/ 104-3689157-9232706?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=507846&s=bo oks&v=glance). Notice the name "The Design and Implementation of the 4.3 BSD UNIX Operating System

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  8. Blade server definition by ZeeExSixAre · · Score: 5, Informative
    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_server

    A blade server is essentially a computer on a motherboard, including: one or more processors, memory, storage, and network connections. The idea behind blade servers is that many such blades can be added in space-saving racks, thus providing compact and powerful computing solutions that are less expensive than traditional solutions (such as mainframes). Blade servers are ideal for specific purposes such as web hosting and cluster computing. Individual blades are typically hot-swappable. Although blade server technology allows for open, cross-vendor solutions, for the time being, users experience fewer problems when keeping with blades, racks and blade management tools from the same vendor. Eventual standardisation of the technology will hopefully result in more choices for consumers; increasing numbers of third-party software vendors are now entering this growing field.

    1. Re:Blade server definition by LinuxHam · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dude. You are bad for business. Especially if people were to start listening to you.

      1. You can reboot IBM's management module without crashing your blades. Also, my current customer is running a drop to each of 3 NICs on each HP blade for security reasons. They *want* 21 runs to each blade chassis for some reason.

      2. Not what you use blade for. Best tool for the job.

      3. It sounds like you must be using IBM equipment but no one has deployed IBM Director. Someone in charge really needs to schedule a visit to get you out of hell. IBM Director can order replacements for failed components automatically and let you schedule your downtime.

      4. IBM and HP both do SCSI in single-width blades now. HP does hot plug.

      5. None.

      6. Can't help you there, except that IBM's RDM can do scripted installs as well as image-based deployment. I can even assign an image to a blade slot so that if you swap out a blade with a blank, Director will automatically push the desired image to the new blank. Great for database and web application servers that join a live cluster.

      7. If you're still thinking 1U, then I'm guessing you're not in an enterprise setting. Or a necessarily modern one.

      Sorry to disrespect your low UID, but a lot of stuff has changed recently, and some newbies here might actually believe you.

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  9. Re:wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    EVERYBODY is up! The market is GROWING!

    The article was not about market SHARE which is a fixed number. It was about volumes.

  10. RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Way to FUD yourself!

    First off, Linux isn't Unix, and the article clearly distinguishes between the two.

    It does not say that Linux servers are 9% of Unix servers. It says that Linux servers are 9% of the worldwide server revenue.

    Secondly, the article clearly states that the total worldwide server revenue is $49 billion.

  11. Re:Who is still selling UNIX? by kyrre · · Score: 1, Informative

    Apple does sell a server with a UNIX* default install. It is called xserve

    *(UNIX as in not Linux)

  12. Re:Who is still selling UNIX? by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 3, Informative

    Add to that list:
    On the desktop there is MacOS.

    On the super high end there is Cray with UNICOS and Sgi with IRIX. Sgi probably sells more Linux systems then IRIX ones now days.

    I think HP still sells True64 systems but they were putting lots of True64 code into HP-UX.

    I'm sure people still resell used Ultrix, NEXTStep, etc systems too.

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  13. Re:Who is still selling UNIX? by johnnnyboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    And a lot of businesses like an OS that is very stable, if not that cool or up to date. The one time that I saw Solaris crash was due to hardware errors (and there were quite some Solaris workstations situated at university). Yes, I've seen Linux crashes, before you ask.

    It's true those sun sparc boxes are very stable.

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  14. Re:The Linux Increase Can Be Attributed to by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Linux Increase Can Be Attributed to none other than IBM I would presume.

    Hardly "none other."
    IBM is second in Linux server revenue with 23.5% of the market, HP is first at 26%.
    source

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  15. Re:Who is still selling UNIX? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    (UNIX as in not Linux)

    Huh? Most things that aren't Linux are also not UNIX. BSD certainly isn't UNIX*

    * UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group.

  16. Re:The Linux Increase Can Be Attributed to by jdwest · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just installed and set up a new XServe last week. It is a very nice server, indeed. Although not quite perfect for the point-and-click admins (not that Slashdot readers are, anyway), the hardware is nothing short of incredible, IMO. The only hiccup I've encountered with XServe (10.3.8) is its mod_perl implementation, so I will have to roll my own.

    I have a "nice" Dell PowerEdge 4600 Xeon single running Mandrake that has been rock-solid in the 2.5 years it has been up, but it sounds like a vacuum cleaner on steroids 24x7. It puts off a goodly amount of heat, too -- thank goodness for server rooms. I love it, and am a little nervous about giving it up. It was my first real test with Linux, and I've come away with nothing but good experiences with it. I've come to appreciate the Linux experience from a reliability standpoint.

    Time will tell if the XServe box is as good, but based on my 18+ years experience with Apple's Mac hardware, it stands more than a reasonable chance.

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  17. XServe sales make that look like nothing. by javaxman · · Score: 3, Informative
    I know it's easy to double your sales when they start small, but an increase of over 119% is always impressive. Especially after you've been seeing triple-digit or near triple-digit sales increases for seven quarters in a row.

    Too bad the story submitter and the slashdot editors have worked together to give us a dollar amount an label it a server unit number, but still.... when looking at server deployments, I'm going to guess that if you're just looking for percent increases in units shipped, nobody this past year is going to beat XServe numbers.

    These statistics are always hard to digest, though... what segment of the server market are we talking about, what constitutes a server, is that UnixTM or does BSD/Darwin count, etc... I always have more questions than such articles are prepared to answer.

    Still, any increase in Linux sales is good news.

  18. Re:You're not kidding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are judged by the size of your budget. The bigger your budget, the more important you look to others in management. I say, tell the higher ups that you need a LOT of money, buy the more cost effective solution, and have a Kick A** party at the end of the year (But don't invite the higher ups, or they might catch on).

  19. Re:In other words by njcoder · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's not necessarily true in all cases. In that (or a similar report based on the idc study), it mentioned that Sun's shippments where up higher than their revenues. Not sure about the other unix vendors but Sun has been dropping it's prices.

  20. Re:No mention of BSD! by thisissilly · · Score: 2, Informative

    two flavors, more or less: SCO Unix and BSD Unix. I think you mean "AT&T Unix (System III,V, etc)" and "BSD".

  21. Re:In other words by njcoder · · Score: 2, Informative
    " Actually, their unix servers are increasing in prices, but they are now selling a lot of AMD servers"

    No and yes. From http://www.itjungle.com/breaking/bn022405-story01. html

    Sun Microsystems just barely held onto its number three position, with $1.365 billion in sales after a 5.1 percent decline in revenue compared to the fourth quarter of 2003. Part of Sun's revenue decline is due to the shift toward X86 server, but most of it is due to Sparc customers buying less iron or paying a lot less for what they do buy.

    Also interesting...

    Sun's X86 server revenue grew by 360 percent, hitting $152.5 million for 2004.
    " What I would like to know, is are they counted as Unix or Linux servers?"

    My guess would be Linux as reports claim that the majority of Sun's x86 servers are ordered with linux preloaded. Compared to 4.something billion in linux server sales overall, it wouldn't make that much difference in the numbers. Sun's still a small player in x86 but they're growing fast. They're more in the 64 bit x86 space. I read somewhere that they're the largest buyer of AMD Opteron chips.

  22. From the horses mouth... by Phil+John · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...The correct attribution is:

    "UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group"

    (http://www.unix.org/trademark.html)

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  23. Somewhat less disorganized version of this article by alw53 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's the original IDC report which has a somewhat more organized picture as well as more data.

  24. Re:It's ALL servers up, better news than I thought by LinuxHam · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've never heard of anyone running Windows on blades. Does anyone do this?

    Yes, I just finished a 3-year server consolidation deal collapsing over 700 servers to ESX on "big boxes" and Windows primarily on IBM blade. Now I'm wrapping up an 8 week SCON design project collapsing over 100 aging Windows servers to a mix of VMware and Windows on HP blades. Here's a small book on deploying Exchange on IBM's blade offering. FWIW, I'm an IBM SCON Architect. Blade is a nice alternative to ESX when customers either

    a) want a good consolidation ratio but using physical servers instead of VMware (14 servers in 7U), or
    b) want to go nuts consolidating over 100 servers to 7U with VMware but splitting all the "eggs" across 14 different "baskets", or
    c) somewhere in between

    BTW, HP offers 8 blades in 6U, and you can't mix RISC and Intel blades in the same chassis; advantage IBM

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  25. Unix/Linux market share is increasing by Ulric · · Score: 2, Informative
    Since the numbers are not there in TFA to actually do the math, I did a little research on my own and found the original IDC article. It seems the numbers are not there either, but these snippets should allow us to calculate market share in 4Q03 and 4Q04:

    "Unix server revenues were $5.2 billion in the quarter, increasing 2.7% year over year against a difficult compare for 4Q03."

    "Additionally, on a sequential basis, Unix servers grew dramatically in 4Q04, add ing more than $1 billion in quarterly revenue."

    "Linux servers generated $1.3 billion in quarterly revenue, representing 9.0% of worldwide server revenue."

    "Overall, Linux server revenue grew 35.6% year over year"

    "factory revenue in the worldwide server market grew 5.1% to $14.4 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004"

    "For the full year 2004, worldwide server revenue grew 6.2% to $49.0 billion"

    So...

    Unix in 4Q03 was 5059.6 million.
    Linux in 4Q03 was 837.2 million.
    Total market in 4Q03 was 13717 million.
    Unix/Linux marketshare was 42%

    Unix in 4Q04 was 5200 million.
    Linux in 4Q04 was 1300 million.
    Total market in 4Q04 was 14420 million.
    Unix/Linux marketshare was 45%

  26. That's just EMEA numbers by Ulric · · Score: 2, Informative
    The worldwide report is here.

    An interesting fact, as I noted in another thread, is that combined Unix+Linux marketshare seems to be increasing.