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Double-Slit Experiment in Time, Not Space

TheMatt writes "Thomas Young's double-slit experiment is a classic experiment that helped establish the wave-like nature of light. Since then, it has been done with atoms, buckyballs, and biomolecules. It has even been seen in a single molecule, and the single electron version was voted the most beautiful experiment by Physics World readers (covered previously on Slashdot). Now, PhysicsWeb is reporting that Gerhard Paulus and coworkers have conducted the double-slit experiment using a double-slit in time, not space. The "slit" was a crafted femtosecond pulse consisting of one-and-a-half cycles--say, two maxima and one minima--passed through an argon gas. Each maxima has a probability of ionizing an argon atom and producing an electron. The electrons were accelerated to a detector which observed an interference pattern since the detector had no idea which maximum produced the electron."

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  1. Great minds think alike. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Just today at lunch I was saying "Wouldn't it be cool to craft a femtosecond pulse consisting of 1.5 cycles, say 2 maxima and 1 minima, passed through argon gas? We could get electrons which could be accelerated then observe the resulting interference patterns!"

    Well, that didn't fly. The guys got pissed off and yelled "Shut up and watch the stripper!" so I sheepishly went back to my titties and beer.

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    1. Re:Great minds think alike. by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hm... strip club....

      Gas? Check.
      Femtosecond pulses? Not that kind of club, but Check.
      Maxima with a minimum between them? Yup.

      Dude, it was all there. What else did you need?!?

    2. Re:Great minds think alike. by ShadyG · · Score: 4, Funny
      Just today at lunch I was saying "Wouldn't it be cool to craft a femtosecond pulse consisting of 1.5 cycles, say 2 maxima and 1 minima, passed through argon gas?"

      No, you have it wrong. See, It is possible to synthesize excited bromide in an argon matrix! Yes, it's an excimer, frozen in its excited state...As soon as we apply a field, we couple to a state that is radiatively coupled to the ground state.
    3. Re:Great minds think alike. by grub · · Score: 2, Funny


      And yes, I am a physicist.

      Get with the program; you mean "IAAP". ;)

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    4. Re:Great minds think alike. by Superfreaker · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can copy and paste all you want from the intellectual desert that is PhysicsForums

      Mmmmmm...desert...

    5. Re:Great minds think alike. by yeuph · · Score: 5, Funny

      The nobel prize winning physicist, Richard Feynman, was known to work out of a strip club. He'd scribble stacks of equations on their napkins will sitting in a corner looking at the girls. When the stripclub was tried for indecency, he was the club's star witness in proving that a valuable service was being conducted there!

    6. Re:Great minds think alike. by shadowbearer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Incomprehensible? :-)

      SB

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    7. Re:Great minds think alike. by 808140 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Haha. :)

      Well, you know, there's an old saying: physicists grow up to be engineers, and mathematicians grow up to be accountants. I don't think it's true (nothing bores me more than number crunching, I'd never go into accounting) but you have to admit, neither of our fields are particularly applicable, at least in their purest forms.

      All my physics friends took jabs at engineers non-stop, too, back in school. Now they either work as engineers, or are paid much less. But then, look at Business majors. :)

      Not that I blame them for making fun of engineers or anything. Engineers are... well, engineers, which reminds me of an old joke, as I veer dangerously off-topic. A mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer are all asked to define Pi.

      The mathematician says, "Pi is equal to the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter."

      The physicist says, "Pi is equal to 3.141592653589, plus or minus 3 in the last digit."

      The engineer says, "It's about 3."

      Yuck yuck.

    8. Re:Great minds think alike. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      A group of engineers were argueing about what kind of engineer God is.

      The electrical engineer argued that God was an electrical engineer because of all the nerv networks in the human body.

      The mechanical engineer argued that God was a mechanical engineer because of the mechanics of the human body.

      But then they decided God was a civil engineer, because only a civil engineer would put a toxic waste dump in a recreational area.

    9. Re:Great minds think alike. by david.given · · Score: 2, Funny
      Actually, Mathematicians don't say that. Mathematicians say that a closed curve is homeomorphic to S^1, and a line to R^1, ie, there exists a bijective, bicontinuous mapping between the sets.

      A topologist is someone who can't work out whether to dip his doughnut into his coffee mug, or vice versa...

    10. Re:Great minds think alike. by ruxxell · · Score: 2, Funny

      too bad they didn't say 'shut up and watch the stripperS', because that would be a different kind of double slit experiment.

      OHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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    11. Re:Great minds think alike. by The_REAL_DZA · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ok, so considering that my very first reaction to the question "define pi" was to think "mmm... PIE", what field should I have gotten into (or was "computers", as my Dad describes what I do, a good choice?)

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    12. Re:Great minds think alike. by mikeee · · Score: 4, Funny

      And the accountant closes the door and replies quietly, "What do you need it to be ?"

  2. Ah yes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been trying for years to do the double-slit experiment. Alas, the wife still won't go for it.

    1. Re:Ah yes... by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's a pity because your nanoscale penis is probably about the right size for quantum effects to be significant.

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    2. Re:Ah yes... by LS · · Score: 2, Funny

      You aren't taking advantage of the uncertainty principle. you may need a little lube to sneak it in though...

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    3. Re:Ah yes... by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2, Funny

      And at that scale, I imagine the question "Is it in yet?" may never be answered to anyone's satisfaction, given quantum tunneling and such like. :-)

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    4. Re:Ah yes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      For many slashdotters quantum tunneling is the best odds they have for getting laid

    5. Re:Ah yes... by rrkap · · Score: 2, Funny

      And at that scale, I imagine the question "Is it in yet?" may never be answered to anyone's satisfaction, given quantum tunneling and such like. :-)

      Also, in this situation, it would be possible to be a little bit pregnant.

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    6. Re:Ah yes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      On the plus side, his penis can be in multiple places at once, as long as nobody looks for it. Then the penisfunction collapses.

    7. Re:Ah yes... by Eternal+Vigilance · · Score: 2, Funny

      The classic "two slits experiment" isn't all it's cracked up to be.

      Destructive interference between the, ahem, "wavefunctions" will take the fun right out of this one. (This is commonly known as the "Schrodinger's catfight.")

      And even if you do get constructive interference, try explaining later that you really couldn't tell which of the two slits you came through! You'll end up sleeping out next to the cyclotron for a month.

  3. Re:Hrm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Maybe this conversation from the TFA will help:


    So does it run on regular unleaded gasoline?
    Unfortunately no, it needs something with a little more kick - plutonium.
    Plutonium... wait, are you telling me that this sucker is nuclear?
    No no no, this sucker's electrical, but it requires a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 gigawatts of electricity I need.
    Doc, you don't just walk into a store and buy plutonium... did you rip that off?
    Shhhhhh. Of course. From a group of Libyan nationalists. They wanted me to build them a bomb, so I took their plutonium and in turn, gave them a shiny bomb-casing filled with used pinball machine parts.
  4. Question for /. subscribers by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do you guys get aspirine with your subscription? Cuz if you do, I'm signing up right now...

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    1. Re:Question for /. subscribers by FrostedWheat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't worry, the second time this story is posted you'll have figured it out.

      :-)

    2. Re:Question for /. subscribers by donutello · · Score: 5, Funny

      Will the second story in time interfere with the first one?

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    3. Re:Question for /. subscribers by rdwald · · Score: 3, Funny

      Only if no intelligent observers read the first story...

      In other words, yes.

  5. The Double-Slit Experiment by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny
    Thomas Young's double-slit experiment is a classic experiment that helped establish the wave-like nature of light. Since then, it has been done with atoms, buckyballs, and biomolecules.

    Not to mention flowers, too...

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  6. Re:huh?! by Asshat+Canada · · Score: 0, Funny

    Heh, you said eksisterer hjemmesiden.

  7. Re:WHAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    No.

  8. Re:Full Text by ac3boy · · Score: 5, Funny

    "In the classic version of the experiment, electrons pass through a mask containing two parallel slits and produce a pattern of bright and dark interference fringes on a screen." Wasn't this called Pong?

  9. hmmm... by dallask · · Score: 3, Funny

    Im going to need alot of pot to understand this one.

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  10. Nice experiment, but by El_Smack · · Score: 2, Funny


    I can understand the use of a Maxima, it's a solid car. But pairing it with a Minima (I think it's Kia's Minivan model, not sure) is just silly.

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  11. So.... by greenegg77 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did they find out the result before they did the experiment?
    There's gotta be a Bill & Ted quote in there somewhere.

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  12. Of course the most important question is.. by wcrowe · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...how can we turn this into some sort of weapon?

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  13. The scientific relatively theory... by MosesJones · · Score: 2, Funny

    First there was Chinese relativity

    "All of your problems, no matter how big or small, 1.2 billion chinese people could give a fuck"

    and then there was relative relativity

    "No matter what your achievements, your aunt will continue to tell your girlfriend/wife about the time when you ran nude in the garden aged 5"

    and now I bring you the Scientific relativity theory

    "No matter how smart you think you are, you still look smart to a time splitting physicist"

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  14. Re:Great minds think alike. : Moving Dimensions by jafiwam · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just a randomly picked response to this thread.

    Here ya go:

    www.timecube.com

    There's gotta be a second or fourth corollary to Goodwin's Law here somewhere... mentioning the time cube guy....

  15. What this means by null+etc. · · Score: 4, Funny
    This has enormous ramifications for the lay person. Let me break it down.

    The "slit" was a crafted femtosecond pulse consisting of one-and-a-half cycles--say, two maxima and one minima--passed through an argon gas.

    Anyone who has a femtosecond pulse generator should feel comfortable with this. If not, get access to a two-photon UV femtosecond pulse generator which uses nanosecond-time-scale infrared laser to deplete the terminal state of an F2 laser, based on F2 transitions.

    Next, you'll want a healthy dose of argon gas. Argon is used to reduce heat loss in sealed units by slowing down convection inside the air space. You can get argon gas cartridges to prevent wine oxidation, which is a neat little side benefit. A 50L cylinder filled with argon gas to a pressure of 10130 kPa at 30C has approximately 201 moles of argon. Just remember that if you're going to lase with argon, its most efficient transitions are at 488 nm and 514.5 nm.

    So now you'll need to create an ion chamber using the argon gas. You'll need a metal conducting can, and a wire electrode in the center which is well insulated from the chamber walls. The chamber, of course, will be filled with argon.

    Next, you'll need to use your femtosecond pulse generator to apply a DC voltage between the outer can and center electrode. This will create an electric field, of only a few volts, that sweeps the ions to the oppositely charged electrodes. For some additional fun, if you apply a few hundred volts, the electron emissions will produce "secondary emissions", which amplify the results. I wouldn't recommend creating one of these by hand if you haven't already done so, but remember to use a 4.7uF capacitor with non-polar film, a 100,000 megohm resistor and a 2N4117A electrometer-grade JFET.

    Anyways, generating a local maxima shouldn't be too difficult if you keep the phase dynamics of your pulse generator within one half delta of the wavelength propogation delay of your argon gas cylinder. This, as always, varies according to room temperature, so be sure to calibrate your scales before attempting the experiment.

    The trickiest part of the experiment is to build a ray tube to display your intereference pattern. I suggest using a Tektronix Type 453 Oscilloscope, which may be hard to find but has the best bang per buck.

    In no time at all, you'll be generating double slits in time!

    1. Re:What this means by 808140 · · Score: 2, Funny
      In no time at all, you'll be generating double slits in time!

      Shouldn't that be, "In no space at all, you'll be generating double slits in time" ?

  16. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Funny

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  17. Re:Time is an illusion? by BigZaphod · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lunch time, doubly so.

  18. Re:So what does this mean? by snuf23 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes! It is! This is my theory, the theory being that is to say the theory that there is in fact, this theory being mine, the theory which states, if I may be so bold, this theory states, yes that there is in this theory, of which is mine...

    one electron.

    and you will know him by his proper name:

    Bob.

    Bob the electron. He is around you, in you apart of you are you are a part of him. Say hi Bob!

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  19. Re:More on the Theory of Moving Dimensions by Fortran+IV · · Score: 2, Funny

    Colin:

    For the last time, System Restore and NTBackup are different programs for different purposes. Telling people that System Restore is junk and they should only use NTBackup is a disservice to the Win XP community.

    Oh, wait, that's the other redundant and repetitive poster I saw today. Sorry.

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  20. Re:huh?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Clearly you do not possess a mastery of the danish language (which I do):

    Allow me to translate:

    Adressen på den hjemmeside

    Mark Andreesen takes a vacation to the seaside.

    du ønsker at finde

    with his vacuum cleaner in his suitcase

    er enten forkert

    which he uses for sexual gratification

    eller også eksisterer hjemmesiden ikke længere.

    like his sister used to do, before she gave him all her lingerie.

    Du kan prøve følgende

    On his way to the shopping mall, Mark fell down.

    Tjekke om adressen er stavet rigtigt.

    And unfortunately broke his walking stick.

    Bemærk at det har betydning

    The passers-by had placed bets.

    om du bruger store eller små bogstaver!

    They all went to the club to hear the Bogstavers, a hot new Danish band that performs live with pieces of cheese draped on their shoulders (a local custom).

    See, Danish isn't so hard!

  21. Oblig. Feynman by Ironclad2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Physics is cool and all, if you're not quite bright enough to make it in Math" "Physics is to math as sex is to masturbation." -R. Feynman

    1. Re:Oblig. Feynman by Grymes · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, math is poetry, physics is just journalism :)

  22. Re:Great minds think alike. : Moving Dimensions by CRepetski · · Score: 3, Funny

    Interesting :) God has exceeded his 40 meg limit. I would never have thought of that myself.

  23. Re:Great minds think alike. : Moving Dimensions by Wraithlyn · · Score: 3, Funny
    "second or fourth corollary to Goodwin's Law here somewhere... mentioning the time cube guy"

    Obviously only a Nazi would post a time cube link.

    ...

    (The real joke here will be clueless mods marking this as flamebait ;)

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  24. Re:Ralph Wiggum would say by Effexor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mine smells like hydrogen cyanide. Or does it?

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