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Militants Planned Attack On Indian Software Firms
Alien54 writes "Militants killed in an encounter in New Delhi on Saturday night planned to attack leading software companies in Bangalore in addition to the Indian Military Academy in Dehra Dun, Delhi police said on Sunday Indian police claim the men were members of Lashkar-e-Toiba - a Wahabi militant group fighting for an independent Kashmir. Apart from maps of call centers police also recovered 100 kilos of dynamite, 10.5 kilos of RDX explosive, 450 detonators, three AK-56 rifles and a satellite phone."
Having worked in a couple of call-centres, trust me. Some people really can be this heartless in real-life.
In my previous job, I had someone pretend to be calling from the hospital with news that the manager's wife was dying in hospital in a bizarre attempt to speak to them. Note sure what they expected.
Manager: Hi, my wife, how is she?
Caller: Oh, I was just joking about that so I could speak to you. Now, here are some problems I'd like fixed. Hello?.... Hello?
-- Using the preview button since 2005
Why is it when someone posts something and adds "Karma suicide ", or i will take the karma hit , It instantly gets moded right up to +5
To go back on topic , humour is a way that humans deal with fear or tragedy , so its not insensitive , it shows feelings
1:Find country with lax labor laws with nearby neighbors described as "militant" to target's country.
2:Remove the ability to access the data physically or remotely via destructive means. (null routing companies and countries linked to target, political manipulation, EMP, conventional explosives, N/B/C if desperate)
3:Repeat 2 periodically to insure no third party benefactors such as other countries with proper labor laws (using documented loopholes such as offshoring) are able to prop up target country.
Bug will manifest itself in countries where lax labor laws, political instability and deep pocketed groups meet.
Possible solutions:
-International pressure to encourage target country to harmonize trade laws with countries with higher labor law standards to remove bugs with Free Trade. Militants would still be present but would be in clear minority if present.
-Limited protectionism until harmonized labor law standards are guaranteed and permanent elimination of all "Ivy League"* style exclusions/barriers to higher education in third party countries such as US/UK. Usefulness would gradually increase as a wider base of the population gains higher education without (practical and theoretical) barriers to entry as documented later on.
-Countries who provide residence for third parties in the benefit of this bug would be "creatively encouraged" to disallow "representation of a person" to any organization that offshores (and all supporters of disallowed organization to prevent shifting of labor to circumvent) under laws concerning bribery.
Ivy League style exclusions, specified:
- Leaving in impractical loophole of excessive amount for admissions/tuition to maintain indirect requirement of fallback of being "well-connected" in the process of obtaining education. Eliminating this may anger the existing benefactors into using defensive measures, but it is a must.
- Admissions policies that are designed to reject the usable majority to design a deep pocketed minority that proceeds to apply similar policies to society for a nonbeneficial (see Google projects with policies that mirror some universities) and possibly destructive result (See Harvard, Yale, and the non Ivies Berkeley and Stanford).
- Hypocritical policy of wanting more students that come from backgrounds that arent targeted by them, but only allowing minority amounts of them outside of public controversy to calm public outrage.
"Forget the engineers." -Carly Fiorina, briber of MIT Technology Review.
i was reading through his articles yesterday after seeing the article posted on slashdot yesterday.d itorials/outsource_baghdad/index.html
and one of them was touching this subject: http://www.ranum.com/security/homeland_security/e
The nation of India hereby thanks your President and his glorious War on Terror, for giving rise to such short sighted policies as the promotion of Pakistan to MNNA status (Major Non-NATO Ally).
And by Pakistan, I mean a nuclear armed country which has demonstrated its willingness to proliferate WMD technology, whose intelligence services and military are thoroughly penetrated by Islamic radicals, whose President's life is under constant threat, and whose feigned ignorance of anti-India terror cells is tantamount to tacit support.
WARNING: DO NOT LET DR. MARIO TOUCH YOUR GENITALS. HE IS NOT A REAL DOCTOR.
I grew up in a very blue-collar family: nobody cared when Smith Corona went to Mexico, and when all of the manufacturing jobs went elsewhere. It was a great thing because those blue-collar jobs were replaced with white-collar management. I experienced my youth with parents just trying to find a job in their "field" - to little avail. Nobody spoke up for my family.
I worked very hard to get myself into school, through school, and out of it - and now, my degree is about 1/4 as valuable in a wrecked job market. People spoke, but nothing's been done.
Until you're on the top, there's never any change because there is nobody looking out for you. If there's a buck to be made, and you're not the source of it, then what good are you?
actually, moving blue-collar jobs overseas was (and still is to a lesser extent) a major political issue. Remember the rallys where you could pay a buck and hit a Toyota with a sledgehammer? Or all the "Made In the USA" commercials. If you happened to live in an area that was affected by that round of outsourcing (and are old enough to remember the 80's and early 90's) you sure would.
The reason the white-collar jobs are a bigger issue is because we spent TONS of money teaching Joe and Jane Factory worker to answer tech support calls, telling them: "Well, you lost that job, but this one is here to stay" and then we yanked the rug out from under them again.
The region now known as in Indian subcontinent had been fragmented into small kingdoms (much like US districts ofcourse)... ruled by small kings (same status as say mayors ? )... now every now and then there would arise some particular king that would conquer the entire sub-continent over his reign i.e. Chandragupta Maurya ... or King Bharat and s on... but after their death the smaller kingdoms would break away again. So it went on till the muslim invaders came in and conquered literally all of India, forcing all the smaller kings to pay taxes to them and recognize them as the true ruler.
It was during the period of Emperor Aurangjeb that the British came in and asked permission to set up a trading outpost, from which they went on to capture small kingdoms one by on through their policy of "divide and rule". As such India and Pakistan were actually one country ruled by the Mughal emperors and were a unified nation long before the British. Glad to clear up that piece of propaganda. Feel free to check up on Mughal Emperors and how much of India they governed, on googol or someplace.
As for democratically elected leaders... India and Pakistan actually were all small kingdoms DESPITE the british rule e.g. Hyderabad, Junagarh, Kashmir and so on. They were made to choose to join one or the other country and yes the choices hold even 60 years later as such. Else the alternative is that none of the choices hold and I think neither India nor Pakistan would wish to accept that alternative. i.e. a full redrawing of map
AS for India's being secular ... isn't USA supposed to be the same ? Heck it is supposed to treat blacks and whites equally. India to its credit has had a muslim president and a female prime minister. When was the last time US could boast of either or those or a black heading the country ? And despite the declarations of equality and black and whites peacefully coexisting, there have been riots between these two factions often enough.
Heck in the light of current events I would go as far as to say, USA is ruled by a fundamentalst Christian Government. Care to dispute that ? who cares ? Given the choice Kashmir would leave India *and* Pakistan... and next morning have the Chinese walking in just like Tibbet, costing India a major militarily strategic region, and gaining the Kashmiris nothing as Chinese would be happy to wipe out the local muslim populace to make room for their own.
So much for that theory of yours ...
I just wish that people check on their facts before posting. In spite of having a very diverse culture (made up of a number of major religions) and having people of different economic strata, India remains as stable as any developed country, contrary to what the parent says. India has withstood terrorist attempts along its border with much more resilience and probity with more freedom to its citizens then the US which basically is on the path to curtailing all freedoms for its citizens, all in the name of freedom. India is a breath of fresh air compared to what the US is becoming.
I wonder why Gartner Group and all of those consulting firms that make big money from offshoring do not come out and say:
a. Safety is much much lower in India
b. Someone may steal your data, source code and there is nothing you can do about it
c. Help increase India's economic output and its production of unregulated pollution
d. Help India corporations get big enough to buy out USA corporations
For the most part, your comments seem to be in line with history and I agree with them. However, there are a few problems.
... Mughal emperors and were a unified nation long before the British.
every now and then there would arise some particular king that would conquer the entire sub-continent over his reign
Yes, there have been multiple times when the general area of India has been under the rule as one kingdom, but these have never been long lived. This is not unique to India, but there has been constant unification-splitting-reunification for a few millenia. True, the British weren't the first, but it's not realistic to say that Pakistan and India have always been one country.
They were made to choose to join one or the other country and yes the choices hold even 60 years later as such.
60 years later the choices have still held, minus the break away of Bangladesh, or East Pakistan if you will. Depending on how you read Indian history, I suppose you could still consider this within the boundaries of the initial building stages of modern India and Pakistan. But I digress. The choices made 60 years ago that still hold today, have not necessarily been the result of peacefull co-existance, but more the pros and cons of breaking away.
In the case of northern India, specifically Kashmir, you have a very complicated situation. A ruling class of Hindus against a disproportionately large Muslim population, with a real threat from further north, China. That, in addition to nationalistic egos of both Pakistan and India, which have next to nothing to do with the local people of Kashmir. I speak not from book-knowledge, but from actually talking to people in Kashmir about these issues. I last visited 17 years or so ago when Kashmir was in a relatively peacefull period, although I did have the misfortune of accidentally coming across a relatively peacefull demonstration that was broken up by Indian police with tear gas which left me in pain for some while. For those curious souls, I'm American, with no direct connection to the Indian or Pakistani people. I was a curious tourist. That said, some people were relatively pro-Pakistani, while others (even Muslims) were relatively pro-Indian. However, most were pretty much sick of being stuck between a rock and hard spot, and had much more important agendas, such as keeping food on the table. In short, everyone had an opinion, but no one really gave a damn, deep down. The general impression I got was "just get the fuck out of here and let us live already, OK?"
India to its credit has had a muslim president and a female prime minister.
Credit given where credit is deserved. However, I still fail to see India as being just as democratic as the U.S. You can give me all the statistics in the world, and while I agree that the U.S. has issues up the nose including racial and religeous ones, I have seen first hand how the supposedly non-existent caste system works. I had a young gentleman ask me what my "designation" was. He couldn't seem to understand that I had no such "designation", and could attempt to work any occupation I so desired. This seemed like (and probably was) a totally foreign concept to him. (Mind you, this was not in Kashmir, but Bombay, back before it reverted to Mumbai.) There were people that begged for a living, because that was the occupation they were born to. (Or so I was told, never really had any intellectual conversations with beggars.)
There has been much improvement since, and my last visit 4 years ago was quite different with much fewer beggars and cattle in Kolkota (Calcutta) (with semi-realistic rumors that the gov't rounded up the cattle and beggars in trucks and dumped them off in the Rajastan desert...) and a SERIOUSLY lower rate of people with leprosy, I still saw way too much intollerable discrimination. It would make the days of Martin Luther King Jr. look sweet in comparison. At least today you won't see a
on various boards and to friends, co-workers and family...
When "Osama/Al Queda/Biggy Terrorists" acquire a nuke...they will acquire just one and THEY WILL NOT BRING IT TO THE US.
Instead they will set it off in India in the general area where the US and other Westernized nations have sent their offshored technical/support and engineering jobs.
This action alone will bring the US/Westernized economies to their knees worldwide. Furthermore, it is how the terrorists can actually win by getting winning through the efforts of their enemies.
India's response will be to assume that IT HAD TO COME THROUGH PAKISTAN...and launch a nuke at Pakistan.
With that powder keg lit...US comes to India's aid...China presses Taiwan thinking our hands our full...we hit back as a form of saying, "not so fast".
And Russia? Germany? UK? France? I find myself having a hard time calling their responses. Lot has changed since the Cold War.
If and when this happens - the terrorists get to watch the big boys do most of their work for them which is simple - take each other down - while they go one building their network.
=8-)
Liberated Kuwait ?
How is it liberation when half the population STILL cannot vote ? (I admit Saudi is far far worse)
How is Saddams tyranny on his people, and on Kuwait in 1991 any worse than atrocties on Saudi women, who cant drive, vote, travel alone, get married at age 12 , get no education or jobs etc etc.
My only complaint is that Saudi and Kuwait were and are a better target for 'liberation' of any kind. What explanation do you have for this blind eye by the US AND by others? Couldnt be oil now could it ?