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Militants Planned Attack On Indian Software Firms
Alien54 writes "Militants killed in an encounter in New Delhi on Saturday night planned to attack leading software companies in Bangalore in addition to the Indian Military Academy in Dehra Dun, Delhi police said on Sunday Indian police claim the men were members of Lashkar-e-Toiba - a Wahabi militant group fighting for an independent Kashmir. Apart from maps of call centers police also recovered 100 kilos of dynamite, 10.5 kilos of RDX explosive, 450 detonators, three AK-56 rifles and a satellite phone."
> Militants? Militant whats? Militant Communists? Militant Republicans? Militant Anti-Caste activists? Militant Hindu Nationalists? Militant Islamists? Militant Christian Doomsday Fundamentalists? Militant Hello Kitty Fans?
> Just saying 'militants' is ignorant reporting.
Perhaps it's militant dislexics who missed the word 'Wahabi' in the overview.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
it did say Wahabi which is a fundamental and usually radical form of islam
Lashkar-e-Toiba is a millitant group connected with Al-Qiada and wishes to 'free' Kashmir. They are Muslim Islamists and believes that they are in jihad with almost everybody except them. Talk about ignorance!
The "Militants" were a group called the LeT - Lashkar-e-Taiba
Here's some more background on them. Looks like they're tied into the infamous Al-Qaida too.
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
Most people reading this article might think that Lashkar-e-Toiba is just another one of those Islamic groups from the general area of Iraq fighting just to piss America off, but this isn't the case.
Lashkar-e-Toiba ("Army of the Pure") are one of the largest terrorist outfits operating in Jammu and Kashmir, fighting to have their states seperate from the rest of India. In a sense, they're fighting for their freedom.
Though, their professed ideology goes beyond merely challenging India's sovereignty over the State of Jammu and Kashmir. The Lashkar's rhetorical agenda, as outlined in a pamphlet titled, Why are we waging jihad, includes the restoration of Islamic rule over all parts of India. This is where they get marked as terrorists.
The Indian government has held it responsible for the series of massacres on August 1-2, 2000, which spread over three districts of the State led to the killing of more than 100 persons within a gap of 24 hours, most of who were unarmed civilians. This doesn't help people to harbor sympathy for their freedom fight either.
Kasmhir is a part of India. The way you put it it sounds like Kashmiris are not Indians.If you follow news you will find that the government of Kashmir is elected.Also the majority of Lashkar-e-Toiba members are non kashmiris.Read it here
BBC Profile of Lashkar-e-Toiba.
So it is not Kashmiris attacking Indians.Believe it or not most Kashmiris are sick and tired of terrorism.They will rather get on with their life and business.Tourism which was the main source of income for kasmiris declined drastically after the terrorists upped their attacks.
Lashkar started in Pakistan and has its headquartes in Pakistan and after the US declared it as a terrorist organisation it no longer opeartes publicly in Pakistan.
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AK-56 is a chinese knockoff of the soviet SKS, which is also manufactured in pakistan.
To be on topic, the LeT is mostly comprised of Pakistani extremists and is a declared terrorist outfit by the USA and one of the first Kashmiri terrorists outfits to be banned by Pakistan. To end on a positive note, read this editorial in the pakistan newspaper Dawn.
I don't think most Americans would notice the difference, other than hold times and chants.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
Yeah, but the ones who planned the terrorist attack are Islamic militants who want Kashmir to go to the Islamic Pakistan instead of being controlled by India as it is now.
My other first post is car post.
Pakistan and India were not ever unified nations until British Colonialism. Pakistan was intended as a grouping of the Muslim parts of the formerly British colony, India as a collection of the Hindu portions. Kashmir is the only majority Muslim state in the Hindu nation, which is about 12% Muslim.
Initial agreements don't hold as much weight as they would in other nations. Kashmir's leaders at the time weren't democratically elected to reflect the will of the Kashmir people. Instead, they were Hindus, controlling a Muslim state. Certainly their agreements don't carry the final say 60 years later.
Claiming that India is secular, with Muslims and Hindus engaging in peaceful co-existence, is simply not true. It's far, far more stratified than racial divisions in the US. India was until recently ruled by a still-powerful Fundamentalist Hindu Government. Also most estimates put India's Muslim population as somewhat less than Pakistan's, although that's a bit of a tangent. China's Muslim Population is larger than Saudi Arabia's, who cares?
Personally I think the people of Kashmir, today, should be allowed to democratically choose a course for their nation - to join either nation, or choose independence. Although India wouldn't let that happen, as Kashmir would likely leave India.
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Really ? Perhaps you just lived in a non affected area when the blue collar jobs were leaving. I happened to have lived in an area where 15% of the population was supported by 3 factories, when those factories were going to be shut down all hell broke lose. The govenor of NY at the time (Cumo) showed up, even though our town had only ~20k people in it. Why ? Because it was a hot button issue.
Of course there is also the fact that when the blue collar jobs went away there were newer easier jobs to take their place. What exactly is replacing the white collar jobs ?
People worry when it effects them. The presidential campaigns hardly touched this issue even though some media outlets thought it would decide the election. Why wasnt it a major issue ? Because the average american has not yet felt the heat, only the tech sector and the aformentioned blue collar sector have had to feel the full brunt of this issue. This will be a much larger issue in the next two elections as china enters the fray and management level jobs start getting shipped out.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." --Albert Einstein
well here's another reference about your "freedom fighers"
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200502/s13
but now it's white collar jobs it's suddenly some sort of travesty.
That's because blue collars sent their kids to school to become engineers so that they wouldn't have to do some backbreaking physical labor. And now those kids of blue collars are seeing their jobs outsourced. What are they supposed to do for jobs, or what are they going to point their kids into doing?
In other words: yeah, there wasn't much of a complaint as the blue collars had some vertical movement to do. What kind of movement does a college educated comp sci / engineer have now?
The Koran does sanction jihad and does delineate the world into dar-al-Harb and the abode of Peace(dar-al-Islam), a form of permament war until all non-muslims are under the land of Islam paying the jiyza poll tax for their very right to existence under Muslim lands.
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YUSUFALI: Behold! Allah promised you one of the two (enemy) parties, that it should be yours: Ye wished that the one unarmed should be yours, but Allah willed to justify the Truth according to His words and to cut off the roots of the Unbelievers;-
PICKTHAL: And when Allah promised you one of the two bands (of the enemy) that it should be yours, and ye longed that other than the armed one might be yours. And Allah willed that He should cause the Truth to triumph by His words, and cut the root of the disbelievers;
SHAKIR: And when Allah promised you one of the two parties that it shall be yours and you loved that the one not armed should he yours and Allah desired to manifest the truth of what was true by His words and to cut off the root of the unbelievers.
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YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
PICKTHAL: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
SHAKIR: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
Remember Nick Berg who was decapitated, that is sanctioned in the Koran as well:
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YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
PICKTHAL: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.
SHAKIR: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
My source is the following website which contains side by side three of the best English translations of the Koran.
So mr. lying muslim, I do not need to read some stupid website to tell me what the Koran thinks. I have read the Koran, not only that but there is many translations of Koran on the internet so I can easily bring up the relevant verses without need to type them myself.
Apparently you don't know the history. Kashmir is of great strategic importance to India, Pakistan and China. Kashmir was an autonomous state after the British rule ended and India & Pakistan were free. Pakistan invaded Kashmir. The King of Kashmir, Maharajah Hari Singh, sought India's help and agreed that Kashmir will merge with India but still have autonomy. Pakistan was defeated and Kashmir became a part of India. Pakistan tried again few years later and was defeated. The Kashmir issue is screwed up because the then Prime Minister of India, Jawaharlal Nehru, to become an international peace hero, agreed in hurry to Simla agreement. Ever since then India has been suffering on Kashmir issue. It is ironic that India won three wars against Pakistan but the outcome was never favourable to India, sigh! India lost a war with China over Kashmir too so there is an on going dispute over the borders with China. Kashmir is, and always was, recognized as a part of India by UN.
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Hope that clears up the confusion a little bit
- Jalil Vaidya
... "Samuel Huntington observes in "The Clash of Civilizations, "Wherever one looks along the perimeter of Islam, Muslims have problems living peacefully with their neighbors... Muslims make up one-fifth of the world's population but in the 1990s they have been far more involved in intergroup violence than people of any other civilization." Hunington goes on to show that more than half of the "ethnopolitical" conflicts of the world involved Muslims and there were "three times as many intercvilizational conflicts involving Muslims as tehre were conflicts between all non-Muslim civilizations. The conflicts within Islam also were more numerous than those in any other civilization.. Conflicts involving Muslims also tended to be heavy in casualities... Three different compilations of data... yield the same conclusion: in the early 1990s Muslims were engaged in more intergroup violence than were non-Muslims, and two-thirds to three-quarters of intercivilization wars were between Muslims and non-Muslims. Islam's borders are bloody, and so are its innards."" [46]
Spencer, Robert. "Onward Muslim Soldiers: How Jihad Still Threatens America and the West", (Regency Publishing: Washington, D.C; 2003) 183.
Footnote 46:
Samuel P. Hunington, "The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of the World Order", (New York: Touchstone, 1997), 256-8.
You do not even that little statistic to figure it out, just turn on the tv or read a paper. The civil in war in Lebanon that muslims got the upperhand in, muslims jihadis in Kashmir, muslim Chechens with Middle Eastern cousins waging jihad on Russia, Israel vs Arabs, muslims causing unrest in Thailand, Arabs in Sudan vs black muslims and black non-muslims, Azerbaijan vs the Armenians of Nagarno-Karabagh, where muslims border non-muslims there is conflict more often then there is peace. Islam is a warlike and retrograde force on the planet, a true pox on all that should be considered decent.
Being an Indian I can tell you that Lashkar-e-Toiba is a Pakistani terrorist group. Read my other comment here.
Wahabi militant group is simply doublespeak for terrorists. These are the same islamic nut cases that let a bunch of Saudi school girls burn to death because they weren't wearing their head scarves and so couldn't leave the burning school building. Wahabi "militants" were the nutballs who ran the Taliban. bin Laden is a Wahabi militant as is Hamas and most of the Palestinian terror groups.
These guys' idea of an "independent" Kashmir is nothing more than another Sharia state to replace Afghanistan and give bin Laden a safer place to hide out.
You can tell a great deal about the character of a man by observing those who hate him.
Not entirely accurate.
India had both British provinces and princely states. See The 2nd map
Also check the following Encarta reference . The examples you gave Hyderabad, Junagarh and Kashmir were princely states (Sindh for example was not) that didnt initially decide.
Hyderabad chose independance but was invaded and conquered by India in 1948.
Muslim majority Kashmir's Hindu leaders chose to join India which resulted in the military standoff, rebellion and current bloodshed
Hindu majority Junagardh chose to join Pakistan but a plebescite brought it into India