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Building a Silent, Air-Cooled System

A reader:"Tired of those whining fans? Want some piece and quiet when working on your PC? Water cooling can be too expensive and too complicated to install, why not just stick to air cooling? This article describes how you can remove PC noise without turning the inside of your PC case into a small oven. Follow the road to silence while keeping an eye on the system temperature."

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  1. Seagte Barracuda Hard Drives by bigtallmofo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know that they're selling some lower-end models now, but every Seagate Barracuda hard drive I've ever purchased is far quieter than comparable hard drives. I have been using them exclusively for a few years now and really enjoy the PEACE and quiet.

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    1. Re:Seagte Barracuda Hard Drives by Electronik · · Score: 5, Informative

      Seagate make the quietest, most reliable drives I know of. I specify them in all my audio (recording studio) computers. Not one (touch wood) failure in 6 years.

      If your computer is scanning the drives, make sure you have fast search turned OFF in XP, it will try to index your HDD everytime it 'thinks' you aren't needing to access the drive. Also check for spyware and all the usual nonsense running in the background.

      Finaly, you can suspend your HDD or use sleeves to stop the drive transmitting the vibrations to the case. The case can act a little like a guitar body and amplify the grinding sounds.

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    2. Re:Seagte Barracuda Hard Drives by steeef · · Score: 4, Informative

      I suggest you take a look at Samsung's SpinPoint drives. They're all the rage with Quiet PC enthusiasts (such as those at Silent PC Review). Barracuda's are quiet (I've got two V's right now), but they're certainly still audible, especially as they get older and the bearings wear. Apparently SpinPoints are quieter than Barracudas (at least initially).

    3. Re:Seagte Barracuda Hard Drives by Ptur · · Score: 5, Informative

      Don't know why this is posted here, the guys at http://www.silentpcreview.com/ are working on this for years!

      FYI, I'll soon be building a noiseless AMD A64-3500+ for our living room. Once you've read the articles at SilentPCReview, no problem.

      BTW, the Seagate barracuda's are no longer the quiet drives they used to be, since their acoustic managment software has been disabled (pending a lawsuit I think)

      Peter

  2. LTSP works for me by hax4bux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I took a old PII box, removed the hard drive, bought big heat sinks and use it as a X-terminal. Boot it via LTSP, works great. Keep hot, noisy servers out in the garage. Life is good.

  3. So buy more expensive fans? by eln · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That was a lot of words just to tell me to go out and buy a lot of expensive third party cooling systems. I was hoping for more of a hack approach, not just replacing everything with its more expensive, silent counterpart.

  4. Isolation by stecoop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All the money I have spent on quieting a noisy computer can be saved by accepting simple facts that moving object cause noise. Accept that and you are in the first phase on knowing what to do. You have to isolate the moving components from the room you are in.

    For me the best solution is having the cases in the desk cabinet. In the cabinet you can isolate the vibration of a blower(squirrel cage fan) and use dryer vent tubing to suck in cool air and blow out hot air from the case. The blower I got is a dismantled desktop fan from Wally World that has two squirrel cages I picked up for 10 bucks. It runs on 110v so I have to turn it on when I use it. One day I'll get fancy and have a relay to automatically turn it on and it has 3 speeds via a turn nob that I could hook up a temperature senor to automatically select the correct speed. This doesn't totally isolate the noise from the room but I can add baffling to help. And it is so cheap.

  5. Old news by Electronik · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have been modding my PC's to be quiet for years - there is no need for any computer to sound like a leaf blower. Check out Silent PC Review for more info!

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  6. obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, the COMPUTER silently air cools YOU.

  7. Slashdotted by Adrilla · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seems to me that they've built a silent website too.

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  8. I sure am. by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    > Tired of those whining fans?

    Yeah. Every freakin' day. Wake up. Kick groupie chicks out of bed. Go to Slashdot. Post something. Sign autographs. Click Reload. Select tonight's groupie chicks from my inbound mail. Recompile kernel. Refuse offer of cocaine snort from nearby pair of rackmounted systems. Touch, finger, grep, mount, fsck, reboot. No, I don't have time for your sister. Reload, and post again.

    Man, I tell ya, it's a long way to the top if you wanna rock 'n' roll.

  9. silent pc? yeah right. by sshore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sigh. Same old advice. Bigger heatsinks, bigger fans, slower speeds.. Each time I see an article like this, I hope that it's actually going to be about a silent PC - passive cooling, solid state storage. But no.. it's always how to make a quieter PC. Always with the same steps. It's like these sites run these articles just to sell the banner impressions. Move along. Nothing to see here.

  10. Economical - Slowing Fans by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article talks about using a fan speed controller to slow down your fans and thus, reduce noise. I accomplished the same thing, without spending any extra money.

    I converted my fans to run on 7 volts. All you have to do is switch the order of the wires around on the molex power connector. It's really easy:
    http://www.dslwebserver.com/main/fr_index.html?/ma in/5-7-adapter.html

    I didn't experience any increase in temperature, but the noise level in my case went down specifically.

  11. Tired of those whining fans? by deuist · · Score: 5, Funny
    Tired of those whining fans?


    I sure am!

    -- Michael Jackson

  12. 31.7db isn't silent by sjbe · · Score: 5, Informative

    While I'm impressed that they actually bothered to measure the sound coming from their case, their final measurement of 31.7db hardly counts as silent. In fact I personally regard that as fairly noisy, though I'm perhaps pickier than most. Realistically how much noise one can tolerate is a personal thing. If it bothers you it's too loud no matter what the acoustic measurements might tell you. And what bothers me might not bother you. I have just listened carefully to my machine and whichever component made the most noise got replaced.

    The only way to have a truly silent case is to have no fans and an idle hard drive. If that isn't possible fans like Pabst 8412 NGL are the next best thing. They don't move much air but they're very quiet. And a better solution IMO than the hard drive enclosures which drive up heat and reduce reliability is vibration isolators combined with a naturally quiet drive like Seagates. There are some fanless and semi-fanless (doesn't run unless it gets hot) power supplies out there like the SilentMaxx Semifanless. And replace those stupd 60mm fans that they insist on using for CPUs and GPUs with big headsinks and/or heatpipes. Also install neoprene or other washers and use rubber to deaden case vibrations. Home Depot is a great source for a lot of this stuff.

  13. Red October by Ibiwan · · Score: 5, Funny

    If only I could adapt the 'caterpillar' drive described in The Hunt For Red October to cool my system... totally silent, but requires a nuclear reactor for power and separate cooling for the electromagnets... (details stolen from Knick)

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  14. Micropolis hard drives also quiet by metamatic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Micropolis hard drives were always very quiet too--they'd go clunk and stop making even the faintest whirring noises...

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  15. Rip out the grill by ryanvm · · Score: 4, Informative
    One tip that I discovered for quieting a PSU (Power Supply Unit) fan that I *never* see anywhere is removing the grill near the fan blades. It makes a huge difference.

    In a quest to silence my P166 router, I ended up doing the following:
    • Underclock the CPU and remove the fan and heatsink and replace with a large passive heatsink.
    • Add a resistor to the PSU fan to lower the voltage and slow it down.
    • Added rubber vibration dampers to the mounting points for the PSU fan. (This was worthless.)

    During these experiments I discovered that the PSU fan was almost silent when the PSU was disassembled, but quite noisy when everything was put back together. I ended up removing the ring shaped grill on the PSU with a hacksaw and the noise is now imperceptible. Of course you have to be careful when you reach your hand around to the back of the computer or you'll get a playful little bite from the plastic blades.
  16. Silly people by nurd68 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, the Barracuda's changed.

    - Seagate invented this "Fluid Dyamic Bearing" technology. As I understand it, rather than standard roller/ball bearings, an oil-like fluid is used so that the rotating shaft builds up pressure within a containing sleeve, similar to what happens with various drivetrain components in cars.

    - The Seagate Barracuda IV drives pioneered using this technology about 4 years ago.

    - Seagate licensed this technology to Maxtor.

    - Other people may use it now, not sure.

    - Just about all Seagate and Maxtor drives in the past 5 years use this technology.

    - Yes, Seagate drives are typically more expensive, but they have a reputation for extensive testing and high reliability. (I'm not saying it's accurate or inaccurate, just that this is the rep - substantiated by the fact that most non-IBM servers used Seagate drives, though this has changed in recent years.)

    - I run a mixture of Maxtor and Seagate drives, all with this technology, and have never had an issue with them.

  17. Spray Cool by mla_anderson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Saw these guys demoing at ESC on Wednesday. It was pretty intersting. I was walking up to the AMD booth and saw a blade rack with blue LEDs and what appeared to be steam inside. That was enough to make me think, "what the hell?" Then as I walked up I could see there were three dual Athalon 64 blades in the rack, all were powered up and none had heat sinks or fans. On top of that there were nozzles spraying a fluid onto the boards and CPUs. The fluid was dripping off the boards and being collected below. They say the system can cool up to 25KW without fans or heat sinks.

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