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NSA (partially) Declassified

Lally Singh writes "Posted yesterday on the National Security Archives was the NSA's "Transition 2001" report, prepared as an introductory report for President Bush (II)'s incoming administration. "The largest U.S. spy agency warned the incoming Bush administration in its 'Transition 2001' report that the Information Age required rethinking the policies and authorities that kept the National Security Agency in compliance with the Constitution's 4th Amendment prohibition on 'unreasonable searches and seizures' without warrant and 'probable cause,' according to an updated briefing book of declassified NSA documents posted today on the World Wide Web.""

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  1. Re:this might not be popular here, but.... by Hermetrix · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    ..."let's keep in mind that the NSA exists for a reason, and that reason is important".

    Yes, but it's classified and you don't have a need to know.

    "the security agencies of the United States have a serious and IMPORTANT function."

    Like what? Promoting the Bush agenda?

    "no question they exceed their mandate"

    You said it!

    "while overzealous policemen certainly need to be disciplined and corrected"

    By, whom? "Mistress Domina"? You? Who's watching the wacthers?

    "they are STILL the "good guys" as long as you are realistic and remember the really BAD alternatives out there."

    Can you say "Perception Management"?

    Hey! You seem like a willing drone... Here, go download and install "SeLinux" and report back to us, esp. if it does anything, well, 'funny' or 'unusual"...

  2. "worth protecting" by mickyflynn · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Life, Liberty, and Property my friend, in no uncertain order. If they take our lives, liberty is worth nothing. Death is the only true freedom anyway. Frankly, we are only going to beat the terrorists when we stop worrying about "rights" and legality. I doubt any German or Japanese soldier captured in World War II was given a lawyer in the camps! And these people aren't even covered by the Geneva Convention. If they capture an American, they will cut his head off. Personally, I don't think anything is too servere in the dealing with the enemy. I do not pitty them. I do not pitty their families. Survival is worth ANYTHING.

    Saying that the terrorists hate our "freedom" is bullshit. They hate that we are different. And they want to kill us or convert us. Our form of government has nothing to do with it. First and formost we must protect our lives. Fuck them. Kill 'em all. I don't care. We can't NOT eliminate the enemy. Germany was left to fester after World War I. Carthage came after Rome 3 times before they had enough, leveled the place, salted the earth, killed all the men, raped the women, and sold them and their children into slavery. THAT, my friends, is war. Not trying to take out a government and then turn the people into a consumer base. It just pisses the people off. Wounded animials are DANGEROUS.

    Of course, this is not a popular position. But it is true. The enemy must always be destroyed completely, lest he come back at you. Germany and Japan were so utterly defeated after World War II that they could never have come back again like they did. We still occupy Germany and Japan 60 years later, despite having turned things over to their own governments.

    Of course, you are right. What they are doing is unconstitutional. It ought to be treason. But we won't have a country if we are all dead. And we will all be dead if you worry about treating the enemy "fairly," when they sure has hell have no hesitation. As Gene Hackman said in "Mississippi Burning," "These people crawled out of the sewer, so maybe the gutter is where we ought to be!"

    Rome cared not, and Rome was glorious. Rome ruled the world for 500 years, where over 240 days of a 365 day year were public holidays. No on worked and the food and games were free. Then they got too much Greek influence and became gay. Then they became Christians and quit killing babies. This is why the fell. So long as we stay un-Greek and pagan, we can once and for all destroy the Persians and see Corinthian columns line the portacos of imperial administration buildings throughout the world. Wars of conquest would also solve population problems and end global warming.

  3. Re:oblig. sneakers quote by Dun+Malg · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Cripes, what's you people's attachment to this stupid movie? The entire plot centers around a magic box for gods sake.

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  4. Re:Let me set you straight by chadjg · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    BS. I call this a large, steaming pile of funky horse apples.

    First of all, I find it improbable that any organization that necessarily thrives on secrecy and order would allow somebody to post AC. Large companies have a PR organ for a reason.

    Secondly, who in the hell would spill anything about internal procedures unless they were forced to do so by Congress or a FOIA beatdown?

    I'm wasting my breath since this is Slashdown and an AC post, but it is Sunday and I'm bored.

    Let's assume, for fun, that the above AC poster is telling the truth. I have a problem with a powerful organization covering up incidental violations. A violation that isn't punished or compensated is abuse compounded. Nobody that is sane will think that this will ever change.

    Also, what kind of moron thinks that just because ill-gotten data isn't presented in court means that it isn't useful? Once you notice someone it would be easy enough to develop indipendent evidence. Obscurity provided by the bellowing masses is low grade security.

    I guess this post is a waste of decent electrons, but it's a weekend and all, so what the heck.

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