NSA (partially) Declassified

Lally Singh writes "Posted yesterday on the National Security Archives was the NSA's "Transition 2001" report, prepared as an introductory report for President Bush (II)'s incoming administration. "The largest U.S. spy agency warned the incoming Bush administration in its 'Transition 2001' report that the Information Age required rethinking the policies and authorities that kept the National Security Agency in compliance with the Constitution's 4th Amendment prohibition on 'unreasonable searches and seizures' without warrant and 'probable cause,' according to an updated briefing book of declassified NSA documents posted today on the World Wide Web.""

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The 4th is already void

[simgod]

You should view this lecture: of how they passed a bill on the day of Saddam's capture that allows them to search without a warrant... http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-12-14-04.ram

Re:The 4th is already void

[Anonymous Coward]

Not true. Delayed warrants go back to the late seventies.

The Supreme Court has held the Fourth Amendment does not require law enforcement to give immediate notice of the execution of a search warrant. The Supreme Court emphasized "that covert entries are constitutional in some circumstances, at least if they are made pursuant to a warrant." In fact, the Court stated that an argument to the contrary was "frivolous." Dalia v. U.S., 441 U.S. 238 (1979)

No shit...

[Anonymous Coward]

The parent makes a good, if sad point. Read this if you want to understand:

Guantanamo Bay Detention of prisoners:

Three British prisoners released in 2004 without charge have alleged that there is ongoing torture, sexual degradation, forced drugging and religious persecution being committed by U.S. forces at Guantánamo Bay and have released a 115-page dossier detailing these accusations [1] (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/aug2004/guan-a0 6.shtml). They also accuse British authorities of knowing about the torture and failing to respond. Their accounts have been confirmed by two former French prisoners, a former Swedish prisoner, and a former Australian prisoner. In response to accusations, US Navy Secretary Gordon England has claimed that a Navy inspector general has performed a review of the practices at Guantánamo and concluded that it was "being operated at very high standards."

Former Guantanamo detainee Moazzam Begg, freed last month after nearly three years in captivity, has accused his American captors of torturing him and other detainees arrested in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Mr Begg, in his first broadcast interview since his release, claimed that he "witnessed two people get beaten so badly that I believe it caused their deaths".

On November 30, 2004, The New York Times published excerpts [2] (http://nytimes.com/2004/11/30/politics/30gitmo.ht ml?ei=5094&en=8d107165e454d8b6&hp=&ex=1101877200&a dxnnl=1&partner=homepage&adxnnlx=1101843681-+nTyVV Jpq8yXt1yEg4X28g) from an internal memo leaked from the US administration, referring to a report from the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). The report points out several activities which, it said, were "tantamount to torture": exposure to loud noise or music, prolonged extreme temperatures, or beatings. It also reports the existence of a behavior science team (BSCT), also called "Biscuit", and the fact that the physicians of the base communicate confidential medical information to the interrogation teams (weaknesses, phobias, etc.), resulting in the prisoners losing confidence in the medical team of the base. Access of the ICRC to the base was conditional, as is normal for ICRC humanitarian operations, to the confidentiality of their report; sources have reported that heated debates had taken place at the ICRC headquarters, as some of those involved wanted to make the report public, or confront the US administration. The newspaper said the administration and the Pentagon had seen the ICRC report in July but rejected its findings. AP (Guardian) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,128 0,-4645430,00.html), Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=top News&storyID=6951969). The story was originally reported in other newspapers when the report was leaked in May. [3] (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,, 1213640,00.html). The ICRC reacted to the article ICRC comments (http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList4 /C5667B446C9A4DF7C1256F5C00403967).

See also:

Camp X-Ray
and:
Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse

No, it's not about SS and Gestapo in Nazi Germany, it's about our US Army. I wish it never happened but it did and we as real patriots have the responsibility to talk about it.

Re:No shit...

[Anonymous Coward]

It was not about "someone in cuba only who gets 3 hours of sleep a day" but about the United States forces carrying out torture and sexual degradation at the military concentration camp in Cuba on a regular basis:

* US forces subjecting inmates to repeated beatings, including punching and kicking. The trio states that such treatment was meted out even against mentally ill inmates. The dossier alleges that one prisoner was left with brain damage after soldiers beat him as punishment for attempting suicide.

* Inmates forcibly injected with drugs; shackled, hooded and forced to squat for hours or days; being kept naked in freezing air conditioning and deprived of sleep.

* Sexual humiliation including photographing prisoners naked and subjecting them to unwarranted and brutal anal searches. The dossier says that one inmate reported that he had been shown a video of hooded men--apparently detainees--being forced to sodomise one another.

* Psychological torture, including being held in isolation for weeks or months and threats to kill them. Iqbal says that at Guantanamo one US soldier told him, "You killed my family in the towers and now it's time to get you back".

* Religious harassment including the forced shaving of detainees beards and guards throwing inmates' Korans into toilets.

Please read more:

"I heard a guard talking into his radio, 'ERF, ERF, ERF,' and I knew what was coming--the Extreme Reaction Force. The five cowards, I called them--five guys came running in with riot gear. They pepper-sprayed me in the face and I started vomiting; in all I must have brought up five cupfuls. They pinned me down and attacked me, poking their fingers in my eyes, and forced my head into the toilet pan and flushed. They tied me up like a beast and then they were kneeling on me, kicking and punching. Finally they dragged me out of the cell in chains, into the rec yard, and shaved my beard, my hair, my eyebrows."

A month later he was moved to a Kandahar prison camp. His frostbitten feet, which were not treated, became septic, the infection spread and his toe had to be amputated. Part of his arm also had to be amputated because of shrapnel wounds. [is it really that cold on Cuba??? no, but you can always torture people by freezing them with air condition...]

He told the Observer that he was only allowed two showers in three months at Kandahar before being transported--bound, blindfolded and sedated--to Guantanamo Bay. He was held in a high-level isolation block at Camp Delta for over a year where he was deprived all stimulation or "comfort items." Because he helped organize a series of hunger strikes and other protests he was targeted by the ERF.

For a month last year he was taken every day to an interrogation room chained to a ring in the floor and then left alone for up to eight hours with the air conditioning running at the lowest temperatures and unable to go to the toilet. The cold air would become extremely painful on his amputation stumps. Eventually, he would be taken back to his cell for a few hours and then returned to the freezing interrogation room again. "It was not about trying to get information. It was just about trying to break you," he said.

The London-born and raised Dergoul, who said he had been "non-political" prior to his illegal detention, told the newspaper: "I now look on America as a terrorist state because that's what they have done--terrorized us--and I condemn Britain as well for contributing to it."

It is about President Bush denying access to video tapes with torturing recordings. It is much more serious than you are trying to make it with your dumb jokes about "the fact they don't have cable."

Read the Documents

[skywire]

I have read the quoted Briefing Book on the website non-profit organization The National Security Archive, and also the underlying NSA document Transition 2001.

A careless reading of that Briefing Book's comments on Transition 2001 might leave you with the impression that the NSA is calling for being freed from compliance with the 4th Amendment. However, that is NOT what the Briefing Book says, nor does the underlying NSA document do so. Slashdotters, please read the documents before making wild-eyed postings.

Here are the relevant paragraphs from Transition 2001:

SIGINT in the Industrial Age meant collecting signals, often high frequency (HF) signals connecting two discrete and known target points, processing the often clear text data and writing a report. eSIGINT in the Information Age means seeking information on the Global Net, using all available access techniques, breaking often strong encryption, again using all available means, defending our nation's own use of the Global net, and assisting our warfighters in preparing the battlefield for the cyberwars of the future. The Fourth Amendment is as applicable to eSIGINT as it is to the SIGINT of yesterday and today. The Information Age will however cause us to rethink and reapply the procedures, policies and authorities born in an earlier electronic surveillance environment.

Make no mistake, NSA can and will perform its missions consistent with the Fourth Amendment and all applicable laws. But senior leadership must understand that today's and tomorrow's mission will demand a powerful, permanent presence on a global telecommunications network that will host the "protected" communications of Americans as well as the targeted communications of adversaries.

Re:Finally

[houghi]

"algorithms from the NSA are considered a sort of alien technology: They come from a superior race with no explanations."

If you think Belgians are alien, you are right. However there ARE explanations for the algoritms used: AES Algorithm (Rijndael) Information

Let me set you straight

[Anonymous Coward]

I work there. You've got it backwards.

The rules for access to data are extremely strict and the NSA takes the 4th Amendment very seriously.

The governing directive is USSID 18 (here is an older declassifed version). Anyone requiring access to certain types of data is thoroughly briefed on this (even if you're a developer and just need data to work with).

If you're an analyst requiring an account on one of the search tools you get the above mentioned briefing and a more tailored briefing. In addition, before an account is granted two auditors at a supervisory level must be identified. Those auditors get a weekly report of every search you conduct.

People have lost their clearances over misusing the databases (which also means the loss of the job). No one at the NSA is cavalier with the data and access is tightly controlled. The NSA definitely works hard to remain within the law, and any violations are incidental, not some sort of secret big brother program.

Besides, anything found through the illegal use of data couldn't be used in court, and the loss of the public trust would hurt the NSA far more than catching you downloading "The Family Guy". The real bad guys (legitimate and lawful targets) though, we work very hard to take down.

Re:Yes the gove does need to rethink the 4th

[Jim Starx]

The founding fathers had never seen a true industrialized nation, the industrial revolution hadn't happened yet. The beginnings were certainly there, but a level of industrialization like the US has today didn't exist in any country at that time.