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EDS: Linux is Insecure, Unscalable

daria42 writes "Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough, has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours, according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS, Oracle, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC."

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  2. Duh by rhombic · · Score: 5, Funny

    And in other news, McDonalds sez "Burger King is bad for you! Try our new salads!"

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  3. shocking by zerkon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who could imagine Sun and Microsoft speaking out against Linux... Just Shocking!

  4. thanks by justforaday · · Score: 4, Funny

    Phew! Thanks for telling me. I'll get right on the phone with our MS rep to let them know we'll be renewing that contract...

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  5. Only one way to be sure by filmmaker · · Score: 1, Funny

    "...EDS, Oracle, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC"

    Well. There's only one reasonable thing to do here. Gather 'em all up, send 'em to Pluto and nuke the whole damn thing from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

  6. In other news: by thomas.galvin · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news:

    Democrats advise constituents against voting Republican.

    Apple recommends iTunes users to purchase iPod.

    McDonald's suggests that Burger King's fries are bad for your heart.

    Snowball introduced to hell. Snowball melts.

    Sun rises in east for 1,324,408,203rd consecutive day.

  7. Re:What a bunch... by Janitha · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh look, Microsoft is in that bunch too, the internets surprise me daily.

  8. Looks like Bushspeak by maroberts · · Score: 2, Funny

    is making it into everyday use!

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  9. Re:Have you ever read something... by superid · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's wrong with "securifying"? It's a perfectly cromulent word.

  10. Re:Have you ever read something... by justforaday · · Score: 4, Funny

    we are not confident where Linux is right now today.

    How about right now tomorrow?

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  11. Whew, thanks for the info by big-magic · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll really glad such a magnanimous and unbiased group of companies were nice enough to let me know to stay away from Linux. I might have made a bad mistake and started using Linux. I guess I'll just have to stick with FreeBSD.

  12. Re:Have you ever read something... by SmokeHalo · · Score: 2, Funny

    I bet it's in the Dubya Dikshunary. :)

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  13. In the news today by alexandreracine · · Score: 1, Funny


    "In the news today, Linux servers have been forking all night, there is no more control!"

    "Run for your lives!"

    "Linux, do you have a coment on this? -If the Agility Alliance say it, it must be true"

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  14. Best. Quote. Evar. by Ransak · · Score: 4, Funny
    securifying

    Did George W. Bush take a job with their speech writing lackeys?

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  15. Good! I'm sick of Linux too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's the Microsoft of UNIX's. If I need to, for whatever reason which I can't yet even possibly imagine, run the latest NVIDIA 128MB video card for my web server or database server under UNIX, I'll use Linux. For anything else, I'll use FreeBSD and OS X Server.

    It's funny how Microsoft is in that Alliance. What an oxymoron.

    I feel so sorry for the Microsoft and Linux userbase camps.

    Hopefully, one day you folks will all actually get it. Until then, sorry about your luck.

  16. Re:"Heavyweights." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Couldn't agree more. Linux is perfect. Any criticisms of it are clearly illigitimate, contain no grains of truth, and we would all do well to disregard them offhand.

  17. That's hilarious by Anita+Coney · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was just reading about Orion Multisystem's cluster desktops. These have from 12 to 96 CPUs clustered in one easy to use desktop system. Of course they run Linux.

    Then I click over here and learn that Linux has "scalability problems."

    I've yet to see any version of Windows scale to 96 processors in a single desktop! Not that it'd be worth it anyway, as the cost for Windows alone would probably exceed $20,000!

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  18. Re:Definitely the wrong image to portray by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

    Its amazing how many misinterpretations of posts there are from people here.

    I bet that if Obi Wan Kenobi posted a comment on slashdot like:

    "Darth Vader betrayed and murdered Luke Skywalker's father"

    10 people would reply to his post saying that he is using the wrong wording because he didn't actually murder him. Then Obi Wan would have to qualify his wording by saying "Its true, from a certain point of view."

    Sheesh. Give me a break people.

  19. See the thing is by Lebee · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft has a whold department dedicated to securification and other securifying type stuff.

  20. Jim says Solaris 10 is *wayyy* better. by Candiri · · Score: 2, Funny
    Jim Hassell, managing director of Sun Microsystems Australia, argued that Linux was no loss to the Agility Alliance because it could use Solaris 10 instead of Linux rival Red Hat.
    ... and you can't beat the price to the Agility Aliance members. We get Solaris 10 free, with support from Sun included! Top that, Linux!
    "If you test Red Hat against Solaris 10 against whatever else... we would say that Solaris 10 beats it hands down on functionality and everything else," said Hassell.
    ... and, it's way prettier.
  21. Oblig George Carlin... by Dread_ed · · Score: 5, Funny

    And now a message from the national apple society:

    FUCK PEARS!

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    1. Re:Oblig George Carlin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      And from the *other* National Apple Society

      FUCK MICROSOFT!

  22. Anybody want to buy a used Linux license? by Bob+4knee · · Score: 2, Funny
    Phew! Thanks for telling me. I'll get right on the phone with our MS rep to let them know we'll be renewing that contract...

    Anybody want to buy a used Linux license?

  23. Related News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Coke issued a report today that Pepsi is mostly rat-piss and makes those who drink it uglier.

    No, no conflict of interest here, right?

  24. Re:Securifying? by fatboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    A large enterprise needs to be sure because it relates to securifying [sic] the environment.

    I think that pretty much says it all. This is a quote from one of the people we're to take advice from...


    But securifying is double super good for your environment!

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  25. funny to see this article right above the news ... by fadir · · Score: 4, Funny

    about google's server farm - one of the biggest linux server parks and argueable the most famous search engine with incredibly great overall-performance.

    *rofl*

  26. Re:MOD THIS UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


    Didn't you know that Linux is the word of God? Linus and RMS are holy angels and we must worship their likeness in temples all over the world! If you don't use Linux YOU WILL BURN IN HELL!!! A little man at a gas station in Kansas told all this too me, but I kept it secret until now. I wasn't sure if people would think I was crazy, but there is no doubt now. Anything that is not Linux is a false OS, and anyone worshipping false idols will be turned into salt! If you use Linux you will be given 20 virgins, not in the afterlife, but RIGHT NOW in your basement while your mom is at work! That's right! Use Linux and get saved and laid! Okay, I'll stop now.

  27. Re:Slashdot? by l3v1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, there are cases where Linux is insecure and unscalable. There are cases where it is more secure and more scalable.

    So you're the one who named his first child Ignorance.

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  28. Re:Have you ever read something... by DonServo · · Score: 3, Funny

    You know, by continuing to use such words you merely embiggen these grammar criminals...

  29. Re:What a bunch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    I don't understand the *'s around helped. Is your intention sarcasm? Do you postulate that forking xfree86 was bad? If so, someone should prehaps (sic) show them that. It feels like your intention is to attack the study by illustrating that the xorg fork did help, but in that case, *'s around a word aren't necessary at all. The only punctuation you might want to use is an exclamation point!

    By way of illustration, here are two less confusing ways to make either point:

    Somebody should show them the xfree/xorg situation, wherein forking drastically improved the software

    or

    Like the Xfree/Xorg situation. That *helped*... NOT!!!

  30. Re:Slashdot? by blackbear · · Score: 2, Funny
    Each claim should be evaluated regardless of messenger.

    I agree... Now. What was I saying?

    Oh, now I remember.

    This is all a load of crap. Linux Rocks!

  31. Re:MOD THIS UP by rah1420 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now THIS was the most insightful post in this thread.

    Although what I'm gonna do with 20 Virginians in my basement, I've not figured out quite completely.

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  32. Quick, somebody tell Google! by Jagasian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Quick, somebody tell Google that Linux doesn't scale so that they can switch to Windows! It would also be a good idea to notify Amazon of the same thing.

  33. Things that make you go Hmmmm.... by DarthVain · · Score: 2, Funny

    EDS, Oracle, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC

    Wasn't it EDS the large corporation that allowed 60,000 or so computers to crash in the UK gouvernment because they didn't do the required Windows Update awhile back... also see:

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/01/1720 24 3&tid=198&tid=99&tid=126

    Kinda makes you wonder if they are fit to comment on this sort of thing.

    Microsoft says Linux sucks? Say it ain't so... Could it be that they are in DIRECT compatition with them... News at 11... according to MS the TOC is also higher on linux nm linux is FREE... yadda yadda support... ever try to get MS support or any real support? Oh look dell is next how appropiate...

    Dell, ok they aren't the ones to really comment either. They are so in MS pocket it just isn't funny. Dell is basically just a dilivery service for Intel and MS. They think Linux is no good either eh... well go figure. They also say AMD is no good. Well we all know that is true. They are much slower, more expensive, and consume more energy... oh wait...

    Oracle... all I know is they make DBMS systems. While a good portion of their systems probably run on some flavor of unix/linux/bsd/vms/etc... all the clients (ie buisness) will be Windows, which is MS, which is probably 80-90% of their buisness, so again go figure. (I may be full of crap on this one, I am just making stuff up now...:)

    Cisco... don't they make networks and cables and such? wtf does their opinion matter about linux and its scaleability and security... What OS do they use. How SPECIFIC is it? how USELESS would it be to a general user... so who cares what Cisco says.

    Sun. Well much like microsoft they make their own OS and systems.... so yeah direct compitition may say the other guys product sucks... Everyone go out and buy Solarius NOW! right....

    EMC? who the f#@k are EMC? Ok I googled them, and if it is the same one as www.emc.com then I still don't know wtf they do! Though by the looks of it they dabble in a bit of everything corporate or enterprise (Much like EDS, btw whats with 3 letter names starting with "E" anyway). So maybe they might be able to make a semi useful comment. Then again Bah! Never heard of 'em so who cares!

    In conclusion: This is a stupid statement and/or article to make. News is "supposed" to be unbiased. To make a big anouncement, to discover, that linux is not scaleable nor secure, is hardly believable (true or not) if it comes from the mouth of those that are in direct compitition, have a lot to gain or lose by the addmission. In other words, Lame.

    and no I didn't RTFA.

    My 2 cents, enjoy!
    DarthVain

  34. Re:Have you ever read something... by glsunder · · Score: 3, Funny

    searching dictionary.com for securifying yeilds:

    No entry found for securifying.

    Did you mean scarifying?

  35. Re:A former EDSer (thankfully) by Maximos · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wish I could say that I was a former EDS employee...but I can't. I can't say much...They are watching...always watching.... But I can say that as an IT professional, the last thing I want to slip out is that I work for EDS. But I can say that despite what is written, EDS does use linux in various accounts....

  36. Re:What a bunch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    On the other hand, i'm sittng on a machine running gaim, firefox, filezilla, zone alarm, and a few other projects on windows that all use their own widgits. I guess windows will never take off.

  37. In other news by arodland · · Score: 2, Funny

    Large enterprises shouldn't use Windows, because it isn't secure enough, has scalability problems, and is only available in one flavor, according to slashdot user arodland, which includes such IT heavyweights as me.

  38. Re:What a bunch... by Klivian · · Score: 2, Funny

    >Have you tried the simple "Switch to Classic" view in XP
    You have to find it first tho.......

  39. Re:What a bunch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Oh look, Microsoft is in that bunch too"

    And SCO reportedly went insane trying to decide whether or not to join.

  40. Re:Have you ever read something... by NereusRen · · Score: 2, Funny

    searching dictionary.com for yeilds yields:

    No entry found for yeilds.

    Did you mean irony?

  41. It's unsecure, unscalable, prone to forking... by wcrowe · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and it also, erm, eats into our profits. So, um, don't use Linux because, it's evil, eeeeeeeevil!

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  42. Not all members of alliance agree by wesleyer · · Score: 2, Funny
  43. Re:In case of slashdotting: by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, it means they are concerned about the fact that such an environment will be secure. Otherwise they'd have to be concerned about insecurity ...

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  44. Re:What a bunch... by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Funny
    ...and then there are the advanced users... who are using PostgreSQL... :-)

    (ducks and runs)

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  45. Re:Hmmmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ok, why does linux scale without effort from 1 to 32 processors?

    oh wait, it's not scalable... sorry.

    how do I install windows server 2003 on this mainfraime again?

  46. Re:Who Comes Up with These Names? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Are these from Marvel or DC? I need to put them on my pull-list.

  47. Re:What a bunch... by Dysan2k · · Score: 2, Funny

    *waves a burning torch towards fyngyrz*

    Get 'em boyz!!

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  48. Re:Tripping by thumperward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm not sure where you earned your biology degree, but penguins aren't generally considered to be mammals. Just a heads-up.

    - Chris

  49. Re:What a bunch... by satans_advocate · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and then there are the advanced users... who are using PostgreSQL... :-)

    if you can install postgresql, then you are a god. imagine how advanced you are if you can actually use it.