Slashdot Mirror


Inside the Free iPod Offer

jonathanhowell writes "David Lazarus, The SF Chronicle's tech guy, has an article in today's paper with an interesting investigation into the work you have to do to get a "free" (as in beer) iPod. I'm trying not to call it a scam, because it appears completely legal, if ethically challenged." From the article: "What it doesn't say is that the offer terms will expose you to reams of spam and marketing solicitations, that the user survey is actually a lengthy marketing ploy, and that the sponsor offers needed to qualify for that free music player will almost certainly cost you money."

21 of 396 comments (clear)

  1. One comment.... by ebrandsberg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Duh, anybody thinking anything is "free" today doesn't value their time, other people's time, or their sanity.

    1. Re:One comment.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Duh, anybody thinking anything is "free" today doesn't value their time, other people's time, or their sanity."

      Including a lot of free software from my experience.

  2. breaking news! by claussenvenable · · Score: 5, Insightful

    people offering free expensive things are usually lying!

  3. Check out the SFGate Google Ads on the article by Hulkster · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Currently showing "Overstocked iPod's", "iPod Blowout", etc. ... not surprising given the page content, but you gotta wonder if the iPod scammers are milking it with Google Adwords too?!?

    Join my Folding@HOME Google Toolbar team

  4. It's a pyramid scheme by kevin_conaway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Plain and simple. Same with all the other Free deals.

    Whether you consider the Pyramid Scheme a scam, is up to you.

    1. Re:It's a pyramid scheme by Dmala · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whether you consider the Pyramid Scheme a scam, is up to you.

      Whether you consider the Pyramid Scheme a scam depends on where you are in the pyramid.

  5. Free? As in beer? by exley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are you sure about that, chief? Because I think it might be free (as in speech).

    Why do so many Slashdotters insist on adding the "as in beer" or "as in speech" qualifier when it's patently obvious which type of "free" is being discussed? Oh yeah, because a lot of those people think they're really clever. In the words of Tyler Durden, how's that workin' out for 'ya?

    Personally, I'm a big fan of free (as in beer) speech.

  6. Re:No such Thing by gone6713 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know if the iPod's competition would be qualified as equally good. Most have a couple of good features but none come close to the experience that has been called iPod.

  7. loaded topic by bad_outlook · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I know seeing my sigfile makes this post look like irony, but it's on topic, and I'm posting cause I think this program is exactly as descibed in the article. Having said that, anyone who thinks their personal information *isn't* being passed around for $ right now by different 'marketing' companies is naive. Yes, if you sign up you get spam, but guess what? If you don't signup you get spam! Yes, it's a fact of life now, and is why we're all hopping from free email to free email; after time they become unuseable. Time will tell if Gmail will suffer the same fate, but spam prompted me to learn how to build a LAMP and have my own mailserver with spamassasin at home.

    End of my story is; I have many friends who have gotten their free ipod. I don't look down upon them, they made an informed choice, something I'm making sure all ppl that sign up through me do. If you don't like it, fine, but again, I see no harm, as all of this crap is going on in the background anyway.

    Sincerely
    bo

  8. Re:TINSTAAFL, indeed by mr+i+want+to+go+home · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Well, I might not say Heinlein sucks, but he certainly is a bigoted, womanising, condescending, self righteous pedophile mother-lover.

    He's one author who's social views really offend me. Which is a shame because some of his writing is pretty good. Anyway - wayyyy off topic, but I don't mind saying it logged in because I'm happy that I've found other people who feel the same. Even if I don't know who you are.

    Now, come get me mods!

  9. Re:Worked for me by Kethinov · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I must say, well done. Sometimes putting up with these little sociological hiccups can be rewarding. Sure, you're right, for every story like yours there are dozens more people who get screwed, but that's a risk you take when you sign up for these silly schemes. Nevertheless, you beat the odds. Congratulations!

    --
    You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
  10. Re:Worked for me by hackstraw · · Score: 4, Insightful


    7. You helped perpetuate the spamming, pyramid scheme insanity.

    I mean, even the "freecreditreports.com" is a scam that is not free. Duh, why would they pay for an ad on TV for free stuff?

    FWIW, I foe everyone that has free crap in their sigs on slashdot. This is simply something that is driven by greed, for what? A toy that any working person could buy. They are only what, $400. For the six months and bothering some unknown pyramid amount of people you could have simply saved $67 a month and just bought the thing. Poor people suck. Go ask Kenny.

    There is some degree of merit for working to obtain what one wants in life. Then there is apparently some kind of merit for those that feel the need to exert annoyance on people and exploit people to get what they want in life.

    There is no such thing as a free lunch. There is no such thing as a free iPod. For the $400 they paid you, think about how many of your beloved greedy referrers and their referrers and their referrers were somehow affected by this scheme. Lets be conservative and say it was 128 people total from you that participated, and odds are none of them got iPods. Thats as whopping $3 to "market" to each of them (with results!). Its cheaper, and I imagine more effective than any other form of "marketing".

    The good side, is that it will not last. People will be over the scam in 6 months to a year.

  11. Re:I wrote about this a while back, too... by northcat · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Just use a different fucking email id. One from a free provider. And the last part of your last sentence doesn't make sense. And yeah, you'll be bugged by telemarketers, tough luck. You get a free ipod.

  12. Re:Not *the* Free iPod people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    what are the chances of your referrals getting their flatscreens and ipods, and what are the chances of their referrals to get the same done?

    pyramid schemes ALWAYS work for the first in the club, but they end up screwing most of the people participating.

    if i want to ask my friends for money i'd rather ask them directly(that way no money is wasted for some easy life company).

  13. Re:Simpler way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If you pay the thing off every month, your iPod is free.

    The things you bought with the credit card to earn those points are not free. If you're in the position to buy enough stuff on the card to earn enough points, *and* can pay it off every month, then you certainly can afford to just buy an iPod outright.

  14. Re:Worked for me by Moofie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Where you deceive that person. Any other questions?

    --
    Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
  15. Re:Not *the* Free iPod people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So supporting spammers and doing participating in spamming for them is OK if you get something out of it? What about those of us who have to deal with and see all the forum, blog, etc spam you people create?

    What about how meaningless your life must be if you have such a selfish & "screw you" type of attitude? And what about selling yourself and others out to marketers just so that you can have a shinny tech gadget?

  16. Re:I wrote about this a while back, too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I like how the Slashdot version of "badass" is what everyone else on Earth would call "hilariously paranoid rhetoric that has no value or function other than to masturbate the the hilariously inflated and misplaced ego of its creator by revealing things everyone already knows and acting like it's a thunderstrike".

    Tomayto, tomahto, I guess.

  17. Re:Anal Retentive Moderator by aichpvee · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Just shut up, no one gives a fuck what you have to say. I'll even call the whaaambulance for you. But you're getting modded down for whining about your moderation like an idiot. The original moderation was probably for your mac mini links.

    --
    The Farewell Tour II
  18. Re:Scam and not scam... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    (When forced, I give out numbers that are a few digits off)

    Why not a completely random number?

  19. Re:Obvious by redJag · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In my opinion it's not a scam because they make it completely obvious that it is a pyramid scheme. Pyramid schemes are not automatically scams, it's just when they lure you in and you don't realize it's a pyramid scheme until you're already signed up.