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Nielsen Report Says Internet Usage Flattening

Ant writes "This BetaNews story says an analysis of major Internet markets revealed that the time netizens spend online at home has come close to hitting a plateau in many major markets. Nielsen//NetRatings, a syndicated rating system for Internet audience measurement, measured markets in Brazil, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Sweden, the United Kingdom and the United States and found them to be maturing. In contrast, Australia, France, Hong Kong, Italy and Japan experienced double-digit growth. According to Nielsen//NetRatings' press release (PDF) and current news story concluded that mature markets are in wait of "the next big thing" whereas emerging markets were rife with opportunity for companies online. Some of the growth engines cited in the report is the proliferation of broadband and societal changes in media consumption..."

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  1. My internet usage has leveled off, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apparently it's impossible to average more than 24 hours online a day.

    1. Re:My internet usage has leveled off, too by datastalker · · Score: 3, Funny

      Plus, since you apparently never sleep, you'll be dead in a week. ;)

    2. Re:My internet usage has leveled off, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      But at least I'll die happy in the knowledge I got first post on Slashdot. In fact, I want that on my gravestone.

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    3. Re:My internet usage has leveled off, too by johannesg · · Score: 3, Funny
      You may be interested in my proposal for a 32 hour day, then. You'll get a few hours of sleep extra (in the middle of the day), and since we'll keep the 8-hour working day there will be a lot of hours to spend on actually doing interesting things, such as downloading and burning even more stuff you'll never find the time to look at.

      Who's with me?

    4. Re:My internet usage has leveled off, too by mogwai7 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How about 28 hours? Looks like a good idea to me...

    5. Re:My internet usage has leveled off, too by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      2 computers man... it's like moving from weed to crack.

  2. Does this mean we get to keep IPv4? by Nice2Cats · · Score: 3, Interesting
    After all the song and dance about how we all have to switch to IPv6 because we are running out of numbers right now, or tomorrow, or next week for sure, does this mean that we can stick with IPv4 instead?

    I'm still waiting for things to fall apart with IPv4...

    1. Re:Does this mean we get to keep IPv4? by gnuman99 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      IPv4 fell apart long time ago. The problem is people don't see it. A parallel is if you go to heavily poluted areas like Bangladesh, where the leading cause of death for traffic cops is lung cancer, people will not see polution as a major concern! Even on days when you can't see half a mile thanks to smog, people say they need more roads and want a car. They don't even mention they want clean air and a quiet environment.

      Exactly the same crap is occuring with IPv4. Sure, there is lots of IP addresses, if everyone gets one number that changes all the time. Then you have to be a second-class "internet citizen", always stuck behind a NAT. Want to run a game server? maybe some bittorrent? Then you have to jump though hoops forwarding freaking ports all the time.

      And let's not get started with port scans, virus probes and spammers wasting your bandwith. And that's on a new IP address. Some places can get a GB/mo of crap like this.

      IPv6 solves all of these problems. No more NAT cruft or virus scans. A new IP address, when not in use, is acutally *clean* (no traffic). IPv6 solve many, many more problems than just increase number of addresses.

      Oh, most people might not know or care, but has anyone seen some of the enormous routing tables on the internet? IPv4 is soooo fragmented, that the routing tables are now a serious problem in scallability of the internet. And everyone is paying higher prices thanks to this.

  3. Time online in February? by wasted · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The statistics in the news article show time online in February 2005. I would expect a decline in time online compared to February 2004, since February 2004 had 29 days and February 2005 had 28 days.

    Then again, maybe they compensated for that descrepancy when computing their statistics.

    1. Re:Time online in February? by daeley · · Score: 2

      I would expect a decline in time online compared to February 2004, since February 2004 had 29 days and February 2005 had 28 days.

      What made you leap to that conclusion?

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  4. How? by KillerDeathRobot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How do they get these net-ratings? A cursory glance of their website didn't reveal much. Is it the same way they get tv ratings? Like, where they send you a little book to fill out and 5 dollars for your time?

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    1. Re:How? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With anonymity so important to Internet culture, especially compared to TV viewing, isn't their sample skewed, self-selected by willingness to be recorded? Wouldn't the most obsessive Net consumers, porn surfers, tend to bring the average way up, while also being the most underrepresented in their samples? And how do they rigorously account for differences in willingness to be logged, across cultures like East Asian and Western European? Maybe mostly the willingness to be recorded has saturated in the US.

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  5. "Internet Usage Flattening" by bigtallmofo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The headline of the BetaNews site seems misleading to me. Reading "Internet Usage Flattening", you might come to the conclusion that the use of the Internet is not growing.

    It appears that the actual Nielson report is just showing that the amount of time an individual user spends on the Internet is not growing. They don't appear to be making any judgements as to additional users coming online.

    From data that I have seen, there are a large number of older people that have no desire to use the internet - ever. As the older population that has never been exposed to the internet and never will dies, they will be replaced by people that grew up with an intimate knowledge of the internet providing substantial organic growth.

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  6. Less use for me. by SteveXE · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I use the net alot less now, got a girlfriend that keeps me happy (as opposed to my ex who kept me miserable), ever since I met her the internet has lost its boredom killing magic and has since become a source of boredom. Of course i still visit /. many times a day, I am still a geek after all.

    1. Re:Less use for me. by madaxe42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I use the net alot less now, got a girlfriend that keeps me happy

      I generally use some kind of pit to catch mine...

  7. Re:The Plateau by Matthaeus · · Score: 4, Funny

    A lot of home computers are also working on things like DDoS attacks and spamming.

  8. 'linux distros'? by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Has "linux distros" become the universal euphamism for "porn and music" these days or are people really downloading Linux 24/7?

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    1. Re:'linux distros'? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, it's kind of weird. People justify they're need for tons of bandwidth by the need to download linux distros. I'm using high-speed-lite, which is equlivalent to 5x dial-up. For the one time I need to download a distro maybe every 2 months (that's exagerrating, it does a fine job. I don't know what people are doing downloading a new distro every 4 days, but it seems a little unnecessary to me. In reality, you need about 1 distro a year.

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  9. Internet and TV by Fox_1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Nielsen
    has the full report in PDF format, It was a short article

    I imagine many people are like me, when I'm hanging out watching tv(which I do on my second monitor mainly), I'm also connected to the internet, either to followup on what I saw on TV, or to see if friends are on IM, or even just because I'm board and just do a sweep of news sites. The article says:

    Nielsen//NetRatings concluded that mature markets are in wait of "the next big thing" whereas emerging markets were rife with opportunity for companies online. Some of the growth engines cited in the report is the proliferation of broadband and societal changes in media consumption.

    I'm waiting for a more fully interactive TV/Computer/Internet I think, more then TIVO, and Digital Cable has given me.

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    1. Re:Internet and TV by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 4, Funny

      "mature markets?"

      "next big thing?"

      hmmmm... yeah, pr0n does spur growth in whatever it gets into.

      wait, that sounded dirty.

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  10. Double-digit increase in Japan by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd say that the japanese, and even hongkong (and that entire region) are experiencing such growth due to their proliferation of internet-enabled devices. When I was in japan, our tourguide was showing off on her phone how she can check CNN news and the weather and all sorts of cool things. Of course, I've seen all that stuff before, as current phones have that ability, but the previous year, she said that all the Americans were surprised to see that in a cell phone. Walking around NYC in recent weeks, I've noticed more and more and more people using their SideKicks, so that's more usage right there; that's a full-blown web browser.

    I'd also say that most growth nowadays, in any market, is due to more widely available internet access. It seems that today, most businesses have broadband and have all of their computers online, which allows for employee surfing during slow time/breaks. Open, unsecured, and fee-based wireless access is available almost everywhere you go, and with more people having handheld and laptop devices, and all these portable gaming platforms with access, the numbers are only going to increase.

    Even though usage seems to be leveling off in the US, I say in the next year, it's gonna spike again. Especially since there's so many regions where broadband isn't available and with cable modem/DSL trying to hit those markets.

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  11. Re:Switch to IPv6? Not gonna happen by jrcamp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As far as I'm concerned NAT is a workaround, not a solution to IP address shortages.

  12. Internet usage is DISAPPEARING. by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, it's getting to the point where Internet usage is impossible to measure/meter, because the Internet is increasingly woven directly into the fabric of our lives. The idea of sitting around and "using the Internet" is about as obsolete as the idea of turning on your modem and dialing into your ISP -- in other words, not obsolete yet, but definitely on its way there at a high speed (no pun intended).

    We have AIM on our cell phones. Some of us have computers turned on 24/7 with the speakers turned up loud enough that we'll hear it anywhere in the house when we get new mail or someone in real time wants our attention. We have our telephones and even televisions integrated into the 'net now. Internet usage is everywhere, it's always on, and it's going to be impossible to say "I got online at 7:00 and I stayed online until 9:00."

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  13. Well of course it's fattening... by starwed · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sitting around all day doing nothing but playing warcraft and looking at porn doesn't burn too many calries... oops, misread the headline. :)

  14. Don't believe Nielsen by Phayyde · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nielsen are the guys that keep TV programming dumbed down by reporting that all consumers want to see is dancing poodles, reruns of sit-coms and bad news.

    Don't believe anything you hear from Nielsen. Their studies are unscientific bunk. To the extent they are given credibility, they will dumb down the internet too.

  15. The obvious reason: (obligitory bash.org quote) by poppen_fresh · · Score: 2, Funny

    <BombScare> i beat the internet
    <BombScare> the end guy is hard

  16. Statistics! by mrmike37 · · Score: 2

    There are statistical equations that measure the relative accuracy of your results if you have a truly random sample. The trouble is that it's hard to get a truly random sample.

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  17. Re:Next big thing by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 2, Informative

    My only question is from reading another article on Slash is if the internet protocol tcp/ip is right for high speed video since the internet architecture was never intended for it.

    Typically, streaming audio/video is done with UDP rather than TCP.

    Also, Internet2 was specifically designed for large transfers like that.

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  18. Internet apathy and the thirst for knowledge by CarpetShark · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From data that I have seen, there are a large number of older people that have no desire to use the internet - ever. Am I the only one astounded by some peoples' disinterest in the 'net? I mean... kings used to spend a fortune on what, today, would amount to a small local library. And they would consider that a huge resource, in the knowledge is power sense. I'm sure I recall historical tales about the quest for the sum of human knowledge. The Internet, by comparison, really is getting close to the sum of human knowledge, in the sheer variety of information available, the speed at which new events are documented by it, and the level of worldwide, interpersonal communication involved. I can't imagine anyone not wanting to spend time just seeing what's out there, unless they simply don't realise what's out there.

    1. Re:Internet apathy and the thirst for knowledge by mati · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sadly, I think you're probably overestimating the intellectual curiosity of the average adult human.

      That factor, coupled with the stereotypical inability of older folk to really internalize new technological advances (yes I know there are plenty who do, talking about averages here). My uncle is a leader in engineering research but still does all his information acquisition (including the geeky recreational type) the old-fashioned way. There is of course the issue that much of the 'net can't really be considered a trusted, authoritative source, but at least as a place to quickly glean and survey things I find it invaluable.

      Other older folk I've talked to, as I stated, just aren't very interested in the possibilities. Although when presented with a specific, practical problem, I'll often remind them that they can likely find a solution on the internet and they seem receptive. But it doesn't seem to sink in.

      [don't flame me geezers, I do recognize that some of you can adapt]

  19. Re:Switch to IPv6? Not gonna happen by kryptkpr · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have a "pretty much" static IP. It's changed only two or three times over the past 4 or 5 years.

    NAT allows me to not have to pay an extra $15/mo to my cable company to get 3 additional systems online, and it allows me to run servers for different things on different machines (for example, Apache and Samba run on the gentoo box, but VNC ports forward to my desktop machine and another set of ports forwards to each desktop computer for bittorrent use) while keeping one easy-to-remember hostname.

    The truth is, my 4 systems don't all need their own IPs. I simply don't allow my windows machines to be exposed to wild traffic floating around on the internet .. and with a Linux firewall/NAT box, I've never gotten a worm, despite always being way behind on patching, and can do a clean XP re-install for someone without worrying about infection within those vital first few minutes.

    So I'd say NAT is a pretty good solution, and unlike IPv6, it's here now.

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  20. Japan has faster connections by dweezeldude · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think a lot of the growth in Japan is because the connections speeds are much faster. http://bbpromo.yahoo.co.jp/ There are more services such as TV. Japan is already pulling fiber into the home at + 100MBS. http://www.gate01.com/. And of course the wireless 3G networks. It is not uncommon to see mini laptops on trains with 3G Wireless cards at 380KBS. Of course the majority of cellphones are just used as Instant Messaging machines. You are not allowed to talk on cell phone on the commuter trains. It seems to me that the more bandwidth offered is realated to the services that are available. I would not be surprised to see Japan sustain the high growth rates for some time. There is currently a major battle in the media. It is complicated but basically the Internet firm Livedoor is buying up the old business of Radio and TV. The internet firm Livedoor is pursuing the marriage of interactive TV. Conversely, I think the US has reached a plateau on speeds and is still trying to get "High Speed" faster than 56KBS to the consumer. Until the US populace has breeched the boring aspect of waiting for content to load, I think usage will stay flat. If the US brings Fiber to the home there will be a similar effect of high growth rates.