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The Rise of Smart Buildings

Roland Piquepaille writes "In a very well-documented article, Computerworld describes the current status of building automation systems (BAS) that control heat, air conditioning or lighting and how these systems are merging with traditional IT infrastructures. Computerworld writes that they're not enough standards in this industry and asks a fundamental question: who will administer these building networks, IT or facilities managers? Take for example Yale University which wants to connect 210 campus buildings, but also wishes "to integrate the BAS with the university's accounting system for billing and chargeback." Imagine the security risks involved with such an approach. This shorter summary contains selected excerpts of this must-read article."

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  1. IT will do it. by turtled · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The IT Dept will do it. With the advanced technologies and networking involved, it's along the same lines as full computer networking. Maybe in the future (10~20 years) it'll be simplified for less qualified. Until then, it's a higher paid salary taking care of it.

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    1. Re:IT will do it. by bleckywelcky · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, it's funny you spin it this way. Because in the current state of affairs, highly trained technicians handle these things because it's not "simplified for less qualified" IT personnel or otherwise to handle. These technicians are higher paid than the IT staff. Now this mainly has to do with these systems developing entirely separately from IT (ie the HVAC industry really had no incentives to make their systems IT friendly, nor did they really know otherwise - so they just developed the systems themselves).

      But, despite what you may think about having an IT person jump right on the job because the system 'seems similar' to what they work on, the type of specialized training involved in dealing with building systems is much different than typical IT work. I would think at least a year-long training program would be required before anyone could become an apprentice. And then another year or two of on-the-job training before you are fully qualified to work on your own. If your project hiccups, fine... you might lose some sales, computers might go down temporarily, services might be unavailable. If your building systems hiccup, you might burn a building down, hinder hundreds of people from doing their jobs, or damage millions of dollars of equipment, samples, resarch, etc. Need me to prove my point? Give most IT staffers a wiring diagram, and they'll scratch their head and ask you what the hell it is ...

  2. Subject Subject by TechnologyX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't read "the shorter summary", fuck Roland. Somebody mod up the A/C with the article text from Roland's site.

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  3. Wonder where they got the idea? by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Hmm... guess some PHBs have been clicking those X10 pop-ups.

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  4. Security? by The+Tarquin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bruce Schneier scratched the surface of this in his book Secrets and Lies. He specifically adressed internet or network-accessable appliances. Basically his take is: sure they might seem convenient, but how can you be sure that someone properly went over the code on your refrigerator to make sure it was secure? Last thing I want is someone hacking my fridge and shutting it down so my beer and mountain dew get warm.

    1. Re:Security? by 11011001 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I can see this as a problem with the average home owner. If they can't configure their wireless router to be secure, how can we expect them to configure their gateway computer to be secure (such as a secure password)? Out of the box security is going to be really imporant.

    2. Re:Security? by The+Tarquin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What you say is true, which makes your appliances roughly as safe as a PC protected the same way, yet some PCs still get busted into, despite those precautions.
      And yes, I agree, there are some things more important than securing home systems, but the point is IF this system is released then there WILL be security problems. I don't think most people who aren't IT people will realize that. "Everything controlled via the internet? BRILLIANT!" would be the attitude taken by almost everyone, I think only us tech geeks would have the background to stop and think about the security ramifications. This will most likely lead to bad things happening.

  5. I hate this by cowscows · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hate this so much. When I was in school, physical plant had control of the central air/heat in our building. They were in a small office next to a warehouse. I spent most of my time in a five story building on the other side of campus. They decided when our a/c went on. We could call them, but we'd be lucky if they actually listened. There were lots of people in our building 24 hours per day. Good luck getting the air turned up in the middle of the night. Ugh.

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  6. they're not enough standards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    > that they're not enough standards

    Thank God there're enough standards in the English language that we don't have to read mistakes like this... oh...

  7. Re:READ THIS by LakeSolon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gah. I thought we were done with the Roland Piquepaille articles. Good idea posting the article text in the comments to reduce the ad hits though.

    ~Lake

  8. Re:READ THIS by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Obviously timothy doesn't share our concerns. I wish he would, though.

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  9. Bad (or exagerated) journalism . . . by StateOfTheUnion · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This shorter summary contains selected excerpts of this must-read article." Come on . . .grow up . . . a "must-read article" That sounds like a troll if I ever heard one.


    Does this guy actually think that this article is of improtance and relevance to every single slashdot reader? Sounds like old TV commercials . . . "Tonight a very special episode of Blossom . . . the one you can't afford to miss . . . ." This is just poor sensationalized journalism. Does Roland Piquepaille think that /. readers are that gullible or does he think that we're just that stupid?

  10. enough with the "smart" crap by rtphokie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is "smart" going to be the new "e". A word tacked on the front of other words to satisfy writers eager to sound hip?

  11. Re:I've seen a couple by zappepcs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is well said. Some day, hopefully soon, the world will realize that the IT department can't do everything that has a computer attached to it, and along with this, IT managers will quit assuming that they should be in charge of everything on the network!!

    IT people would have no more idea what to do with HVAC controller errors than the DJ at your local radio station should know what to do with a RAID error.

    I wish people would quit assuming that the network is more than just a service, like POTS lines etc. There are services offered over the network, but that doesn't mean the network provider has any clue about it. Network connectivity needs to be comoditized, not specialized and part of the desktop functionality.

    No one will get any love calling up the local bell company and asking why their 56k modem won't work on the same line they are calling from. If the bldg service department puts devices on the network, its their problem, not the responsibility of IT.

    Generally speaking, most IT departments have a *LONG* way to go before they can simply offer services and stop sweating when some server in the back room of a dark building stops working, but that is where they need to be.

    It bugs me when an IT guy *WANTS* to be involved in the daily operations of the billing system? Who wants that hassle? Who wants to be yanked away from reading slashdot just because the A/C in building across town isn't working right?

    S

  12. Re:Oversimplification by SidV · · Score: 2, Insightful

    " Think how amazing it will be to be able to turn the lights on at your house from your PC at work before you leave to drive home "

    Amazing yes, usefull no. And contrary to what this is supposed to do, which is reduce energy costs, burning a bulb/bulbs you don't need is wstefull.

    More usefull is the motion sensor I have for the bulb in my carport. When I pull in it lights up so I can get in the house, and flip that highly complicated analog switch to light the inside house.

    Turning the light on when I need it with a lag of approx 1 second.

  13. Re:Who fucking gives a shit, you jackholes by mcc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Me, I'm sick of Roland

    I don't give a shit. I'm sick of you and the rest of your trolling little clique. You've wasted an order of magnitude more space and reader time than this "Roland" whosit ever will, and unlike Mr. Pipquwhatever, you post your trash where I can't just skim past and not click the story if I'm not interested.

    Putting a plagiarist, seeking ad revenue, on the front page posing as news is NOT OK.

    Why the fuck not? Who cares? If he's plagiarizing, the people he is plagiarizing are free to take it up with him. Talk to them, not us.