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British TV Station Offers Downloads

Richard W.M. Jones writes "Remember how the British just love to download TV? Well, British terestrial TV channel five has announced that it will become the first to offer TV programmes to download legally. Except that they don't quite seem to get it yet. They are offering here some videos from this car programme which apparently didn't quite make it to air, for the princely sum of £1.50 (about $3), in DRM'd WMV 10 format (mplayer plays them fine). Still, it's a start, and it looks like they're just testing the water. Hopefully they won't take the lack of response as 'proof' that there's no demand. There's more about this at the BBC's website."

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  1. Codecs by XanC · · Score: 5, Informative
    Maybe your mplayer plays them fine. My 64-bit mplayer's offerings are a bit more basic.

    Let's get some open codecs!

  2. NRL by POds · · Score: 3, Informative

    The NRL is a premier sporting event in Australia, comparable to the AFL. We've beena ble to download the games once aired on national free to air and pay television. Recently telstra has taken away our right todownload them and are now only offering them to telstra customers. Certain a step backwards.

    We can still download them, but only for a week or so.

    Damn, i've used 'download' in the above, but i really should have used stream. Thats how this site came about.

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  3. Re:Getting money the right way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Canadian Recording Industry Association got a tariff imposed upon blank CD-Rs which goes to them.

    They did this long before the RIAA even sued Napster.

  4. Erm.. by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 3, Informative

    Thiswould be nice if it was a decent channel, but it's just Channel 5, it's all Nazi documentries and soaps no other channel wants.. it might be a start but it's not going to do much good..

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  5. First? by pshuke · · Score: 4, Informative

    >>>TV channel Five has said it will be the first UK broadcaster to offer parts of its shows for sale as legal downloads.

    A norwegian channel, http://www.nrk.no/ (click on NRK NETT-TV, between the ads) , already does what this article advertizes, I belive.
    - It allows for downloads of already-aired shows to the public, and for no cost too.
    It should be noted, however, that NRK is a government ``owned" channel, and that one could say that this service is already paid for by our tax-money.
    Still - it can hardly belive that this is the only TV-channel to do such a thing.
    Is this really such a new thing?

  6. Re:5th gear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    maybe someone should tell them that some trannys have six gears, and maybe they'd respond that they're not going to fall for that spinal tap rouse

    Hahaha. It's called "Fifth Gear" because it's on "Channel 5". Get it?

    Once upon a time, there was a BBC show called "Top Gear". Then the main presenter or two left, and it stagnated for a bit. Then there was a new station called "Channel 5" and the whole "Top Gear" production team decamped to Channel 5 to make essentially the same show. Hence "Fifth Gear".

  7. Re:5th gear! by Dogers · · Score: 3, Informative

    Except Top Gear is back, and has been for some time, on BBC2

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  8. Re:Good quality by PhillC · · Score: 3, Informative
    There's BBC Motion Gallery. Here you can view and download watermarked preview files of BBC archive content. This site is primarily aimed at commercial stock footage buyers.

    There's also the BBC's Creative Archive, which is not yet launched.

    iMP is just entering the second round of closed Beta testing I believe. It's not available for public Beta testing at this time.

    I'd also recommend checking out some of the excellent historical footage on the British Pathe site. This archive is now represented by ITN.

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  9. Channel 5 History by t_allardyce · · Score: 4, Informative

    To people outside the UK, channel 5 is basically a terrestrial channel in the format of a tacky trash newspaper, they made their debut in the late 90's however they were plagued with problems, in order to get a frequency all VCRs in the country had to be retuned by a technician (no idea don't ask), their signal was much weaker than other stations and was known for crap reception and they were the only terrestrial channel to stick a logo in the corner of their screen, they've improved a little since then but they're still 'that' channel in most peoples minds. If they had waited for a couple of years for digital terrestrial tv they could probably have saved a whole load of money but they would be watched even less than that crappy shopping channel. Oh and the program in question - Fifth Gear is a blaitent rip-off of the BBC program Top Gear without Jeromy Clarkson.

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    1. Re:Channel 5 History by TobascoKid · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh and the program in question - Fifth Gear is a blaitent rip-off of the BBC program Top Gear without Jeromy Clarkson.

      It's not a blatent rip off, it is Top Gear. When the BBC cancelled Top Gear five got most of the cast and crew of Top Gear involved in Fifth Gear. When the BBC realized thier mistake they they got Jeremy Clarkson back for a completely new show but with the Top Gear title.

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    2. Re:Channel 5 History by g_attrill · · Score: 3, Informative

      In areas of the country covering approx 12 million homes Channel 5 uses the frequency reserved for VCR aerial modulation. Channel 5 made test transmissions and placed press adverts with details about how to book a retuning technician, and when they ran behind schedule they had to send out thousands band-block filters instead.

      This page explains it in detail.

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  10. We've got this in Iceland by hugsa · · Score: 5, Informative

    We've actually been able to download shows and news for a few years here in Iceland, both from RUV (state owned), Stod 2 and Skjar 1, both not owned by the goverment.

    And here are the proofs:
    RUV online:
    RUV

    Stod 2 online:
    Stod 2 (their web is really really bad..brace yourself)

    Skjar 1 online:
    Skjar 1

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  11. Re:BBC should make this available for free by TobascoKid · · Score: 4, Informative

    But it's a Channel 5 programme - five (and the rest of the commercial broadcasters) don't get a penny of the licence fee. The BBC (and the licence fee) has absolutely nothing to do with this.

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  12. Re:BBC should make this available for free by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not to mention that a lot of 'BBC' DVDs and vidoes are actually put out for sale by the independant production companies that made them, and not the BBC itself.

  13. Re:"They don't get it" by Psychotext · · Score: 2, Informative

    UK - Pound Sterling, monetary value equivalent to 1.90 US Dollars... Not lb, poor cousin of base 10 weight systems.

    But yeah, a lb of marbles would do nicely! :)

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  14. Re:"They don't get it" by sp3tt · · Score: 2, Informative

    There was an article in a Swedish newspaper some weeks ago. It was about a true garage band, they didn't have a record contract, hadn't advertised very much and so on. Yet when they went out on tour, people in Milano, Italy were waiting for them at the airport.
    How did they achive this fame? They released their music on the internet, and soon it became very popular, spreading all over the world.
    Good music sells, because if someone likes an album, he/she will tell his/her friends about it. Those friends will tell their friends about the album, and it will spread.
    Now, imagine what this can do with the internet. Imagine if an album was "slashdotted". If a very popular website (more than 100,000 unique visitors/day) posted something about an album, and recommended it. That's practically free advertising for the album!
    The point is, good music sells, shit does not.
    Will this only benefit the mainstream artists, the ones which sell lots of records? No. Because of the very low costs of distribution over the internet, a small band without a contract can make their music available for millions of people at almost no cost! That was what the band in the story in the beginning of this comment did.

  15. Top Gear by jrwillis · · Score: 2, Informative

    Meh, the only thing on TV from that side of the pond that I'd REALLY like to see is Top Gear. Best damned auto show ever. Long live The Stig!

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  16. Re:"They don't get it" by Jiminez · · Score: 2, Informative

    As someone with economics degrees coming out their arse, and someone who has studied the field now for over a decade, the original poster's analysis and understanding of (mythical) free market economics, supply and demand, market intervention and such like is embarassingly naive. These concepts are all vast simplifications (of underlying psychological and social principles of market economics) taught to first year students. Under any sort of close scrutiny they are quickly shown lacking (as highlighted by most papers in the last 20 years), and in numerous cases are simply incorrect.

    Classic slashdot however.

  17. Re:Top Gear by DuncMan · · Score: 2, Informative

    IMHO, Fifth Gear is better than Top Gear. Top Gear seems gimmicky and laddish, while Fifth Gear focuses on doing interesting things with cars (and is, admittedly, a bit laddetteish). Fifth Gear also features many Top Gear alumni, while Top Gear seems obsessed with Jeremy Clarkson.

    As for other quality programmes from the UK, there are many. You may want to see Doctor Who from BBC Wales ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/ ).

  18. Re:Say What? by evilviper · · Score: 2, Informative
    in DRM'd WMV 10 format (mplayer plays them fine)

    Could anyone elaborate on this?
    Last I heard, mplayer could not do DRM'd WM9 files.

    MPlayer still doesn't handle any kind of DRM (except pechaps for CSS on DVDs).

    The poster most likely is confused.
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  19. Re:same here, on PowerPC by evilviper · · Score: 2, Informative
    Say, is it even legal to use those Windows DLL files and such?

    It's not legal to use MPlayer in the first place, so what's the difference?

    MPlayer includes support for all manner of patent-protected audio/video codecs, and as such, is illegal.

    If you're in a country where there are no software patents, it's a very different story.

    Using the DLLs is a grey area, but I'm inclined to assume they would be legal if tested in a US court. They all come from freely downloadable programs (RealPlayer, Windows Media Player, Quicktime), and are being redistributed in an unmodified form. Using them with MPlayer or Xine is no doubt in violation of their EULA, but the enforcability of EULAs is questionable.
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