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CaminoBrowser.org Launches
Samuel Sidler writes "Introducing CaminoBrowser.org, the new Camino project site. The pages have been completely revamped with up-to-date information, useful and easy-to-read support pages, and, of course, pretty pictures. Months of effort have gone into creating a truly excellent site. While the product pages will remain hosted at mozilla.org, our new website will be the home of the project and all support/development information as well as up-to-date news and information."
Safari, especially the version that run on 10.2, is slow as a dead dog. Camino is fast, very fast, and positively blazing compared to Safari. Ya damn troll.
Camino has built in support for a lot of the system wide OS X features like Keychain, the spell checker, Address Book, most of the cocoa services, and probably a few others I'm forgetting.
Scroll-wheels in OS X change focus with the mouse-cursor. This behavior extends to any app which is developed properly for OS X with the Cocoa toolkit. Most other apps (especially those ported from Windows or Linux) fail to behave this way, you have to click on something first before you can count on the wheel scrolling it. Using TextEdit on Windows drives me mad for this very reason. When I get home to my Mac, I want things to "Just Work."
Agreed, one nice addition to camino functionality is the the extended preferences found here http://www.nada.de/mac/camino/cep.html
The ExtraPrefs include a highly effective CSS based ad-blocking system, as well as features such as the ability to customize search engines, spoof your browser type, image control, window reuse etc.
One nice thing about Camino tabs are their low profile - they do not seem to use as much screen real-estate as say the Safari tabs.
All in all Camino needs quite a bit of work but I think that it is poised to be a very good browser for the Mac.
OS X manages things like proxies and other network settings as part of the OS, so you can relatively easily (but not seamlessly, alas) switch from Ethernet to WLAN to modem connections just by selecting the configuration you're using from the Apple menu. Firefox doesn't pick up the proxy settings itself if you do this. Camino would.
Now, that said, Camino isn't compatable with Firefox's plug-ins, and I don't know about you but I've found it's gotten hard to browse without Adblock and Flashblock having tried them. (Hacks to add crippled functionality similar, but not really, to the two are usually quoted when I mention this, but the full blown "I want to be able to get a flash animation to start only when I click it" and "I want to be able to easily add wildcards to my ad blocking script" functionality just isn't present with these "answers.")
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
For everyone who thinks Camino is speedy versus Firefox and Safari, you should search the mozillazine forums for arch optimized nightlys of it... The closest comparation I can make is when the roadrunner goes "Beep-Beep" and leaves the coyote in the dust. :P
about:config
mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.action = 0
mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.numlines = 0
TIAEAE!
Yeah, that's a pretty good idea! I was going to respond that there is no way I could find the paper in question but I think I did :) There's a number of other papers that cover the same sort of studies that are cited on that page too.
How we know is more important than what we know.
This browser is certainly the best choice if you have Panther on something like an iBook 500 with just about 400MB Ram. Safari tends to be slow, FF doesn't scroll well and is too heavy for my system (and doesn't feel right under OS X) So Camino does really do a nice job. And if you feel that 0.8.2 is too old, why not use a nightly. They work perfectly most of the time.
There's at least one extension that works pretty well under Camino, and once I installed it, Camino became a lot more responsive on my old-ish iBook. It's flashblock, and since I hate pretty much all flash, especially all the ads, this has been a great addition.
python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
Camino (then Chimera) was first released in January 2002. Firefox (then Phoenix) was first released in September 2002, and said this about the Mac:Not until Firebird 0.6 in May 2003 was the Mac was officially supported. If you're going to 'blame' a project for duplicating effort, don't blame Camino.
Also, an amusing aside: Dave Hyatt started both the Chimera and Phoenix projects. Now he works fulltime at Apple on Safari...
I'm replying to you, but really, this is for everyone who complains about no flash/popup/ad/whatever blocking in Safari, as well as lack of serious tab control.
Saft
PithHelmet
Yes, they cost money. Yes, they are worth it. No, I don't care if Firefox can do this for free.
>Safari:
/etc/hosts file like this one will kill a lot of ads, including lots of Flash. Takes a bit of work on OS X--you can't just 'sudo cat hosts.txt >> /etc/hosts', you have to 'sudo -s' and actually *be* root before you add their hosts file to yours. Not sure why, but once it's working, it's great.
>-No way to block annoying Flash popups
It won't fix everything, but a custom
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
Unfortunately, you need to understand that Camino and Safari can *never* support Firefox extensions. Firefox extensions are written in XUL while both Camino and Safari use the native Cocoa environment. For this reason, you'll never get your extensions.
On the other hand, the latest nightly builds of Camino support user-defined pref panels making the addition of new features very easy and completely configurable. If you're willing to write it, all those extensions can become pref panels.