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Yahoo Ups Mail to Match Google's Gig

Bruce Young writes "Yahoo said late Tuesday that it will provide 1 gigabyte of storage for each free e-mail account. The current limit is 250 megabytes. The expanded storage which will be available in mid-April will enable Yahoo to catch up with online search engine leader Google. "

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  1. It was bound to happen by dJOEK · · Score: 4, Funny

    will we soon surf to yahoogle.com?

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  2. Yahoo vs Google? by davidmcg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yahoo have apparently denied that it is trying to beat Google at it's own game but said that it reflected the way subscribers are using email...umm, sure...we believe you..

    1. Re:Yahoo vs Google? by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not believe them. The way people use web mail, certainly my usage has changed over the years. Do you seriously expect Yahoo to stick with what worked for most people in 1997?

      And FYI Yahoo had email before Google was even a blip on the horizon for Altavista so it more like Google are trying to beat yahoo ay their own game. Either way I dont care, I win.

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    2. Re:Yahoo vs Google? by drsquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can't really compare them yet, because Yahoo are already ahead. Yahoo is an actual running service, Google is just a beta. When Google finally opens their service then we can make a comparison.

  3. Pop Access? by FinchWorld · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yahoo got that yet? Last i checked they didn't, which means you got to go through all of Yahoo's webmail interface.

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    1. Re:Pop Access? by wscott · · Score: 5, Informative
      use fetchyahoo. I use that to automatically forward all my yahoo mail to my gmail account. ;-)

      The gmail web interface just blows aways anything yahoo provides. The 1Gig is not the real selling point. Now I just wish ebay would hire the google engineers to redesign their interface.

    2. Re:Pop Access? by Slashcrap · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yahoo got that yet? Last i checked they didn't, which means you got to go through all of Yahoo's webmail interface.

      If you sign up for a yahoo.co.uk account, you get free POP3 and SMTP access.

      Unfortunately they scan every e-mail you send for fucking ridiculous made-up words like "burglarized", so if you're actually American you'll get busted pretty quick.

    3. Re:Pop Access? by Bronster · · Score: 3, Informative

      Disclaimer: I work for FastMail.

      If you want control over your email (and no evil search engine companies leveraging their giant database of email for nefarious purposes, natch) you're better off with something like FastMail. The free offering isn't quite so fancy, but the paid options rock.

      In particular, our highest fee paying accounts now get to send and receive up to 50MB of attachments with an email, and that's a full 50MiB (including room for encoding in the Postfix limits)

      Our interface is more designed around the IMAP protocol than Gmail, since that's what we use internally - and we offer (optionally) encrypted IMAP for everyone and encrypted POP & Auth SMTP for all paying users.

      You also get a web site and file storage space which you can access directly from emails to attach or detach files, etc... but I'm not going to detail all the features here - just point out that the big names don't always offer the best features.

    4. Re:Pop Access? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      How to lose your yahoo uk account: "I heard the guy on the bus say his apartment got burglarized."

      How to keep your yahoo uk account: "Heard the bloke on the lorry say his flat got burgled."

  4. Yahoo catch-up TODO list by Laurentiu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So Yahoo, you want me as a customer? Here's what you have to do:

    * remove those nasty ads
    * filter spam better
    * add POP3 access back (you were one of the first free online mailers with POP3, then you removed it so that people would use your crappy ad-full interface)
    * (and speaking of which) improve your web interface to (at least) Google standards

    When you're done, let me know and I just might give up my nice gmail account.

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  5. So "FU" Mail Plus users? by ecklesweb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well that seems to be a big middle finger to Yahoo!'s paying Mail Plus users. I wonder if they're not going to try to offer something extra to them as well. Right now is sounds like the only difference would be POP access and extra filters.

    1. Re:So "FU" Mail Plus users? by davidmcg · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Register states paid subscribers are getting upgraded to 2GB and can send attachments upto 20mb.

    2. Re:So "FU" Mail Plus users? by Tim+Macinta · · Score: 3, Informative

      My Mail Plus account was upgraded to 2G last year, whenever it was that they last increased their free storage. Note that The Register doesn't say that Mail Plus users are getting "upgraded", just that they will be getting 2G. I would guess that this means that either we won't be getting another bump in storage or Yahoo! hasn't announced that yet (or that The Register is unaware of it, at least).

  6. No more sticks? by Diakoneo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    GMAIL and Yahoo! mail have so much storage, I hear people are giving up on carrying around USB sticks and just using HTTP mail. I haven't heard of any security breaches where someone has had access to any appreciable number of files stored on their sites, but I suppose it's just a matter of time.

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  7. Yahoo File System? by Robotech_Master · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wonder if the fellow who wrote the Gmail File System will do an adaptation...

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  8. Get both, and stay out of the fray. by unsung · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Before you guys get in a huff about Yahoo! vs. Google mail services, it stands to reason that many of us have both, plus a hotmail account.

    Yahoo upping online storage is a good thing for all of us.

  9. competetion.. This is great by acomj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is great. Hopefully google/yahoo/hotmail will all add more inovative features and the same low low price (feeding you ads is the price you pay).

    Computer companies do amazing things when there is competetion..

  10. This news means more than you think by the_mutha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The fact that is has taken Yahoo this long to play catch-up says a lot more than we may initially think. Many argue that the secret to Google's success is its highly adaptable and powerfull hardware architecture. They can increase their storage capacity very quickly just by adding more machines to its cluster. Yahoo has nowhere near the same adaptability as Google.

  11. Waste of time by anethema · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Other than for marketing of course.

    I personally will probably never fill 250mb, let alone a gig.

    I love gmail for all its features that Yahoo just doesnt have. I love the searching through archived mail. I love the labels instead of folders. And I -love- the threaded conversation view.

    Yahoo would have to come up with some pretty killer feature at this point for me to even look at it. Even if it matched the featureset, it's still slow and cluttered compared to Gmail. And even then, I trust google more with all my mail than I do Yahoo.

    Basically, just upping to a gig from 250mb...I could see this maybe stopping some Joe Sixpacks who use Yahoo now from switching to Gmail, but anyone who has actually used Gmail will probably never switch to Yahoo. The goodness just isnt there.

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  12. Does 1GB really make that much of a difference? by PaschalNee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did anybody move to GMail just because of the 1GB limit? I was a YahooMail user and was waaaayyyy off the 250Mb limit. The attractiveness of GMail for me was the snappiness of the responses, the threaded email conversations and general clean UI. Cranking YahooMail up to a GB will not change any of this.

  13. Re:Failure is imminent. by dsginter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They still won't be as good as Google.. stop trying!

    I disagree from a business perspective.

    Lots of people will stay with yahoo mail because it is difficult to switch. If there is no benefit, then there is little reason to make the switch in the first place.

    Competition is good. Now, they will start competing on other features and the consumer wins in the end.

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  14. Google catch-up TODO list by DogDude · · Score: 4, Interesting
    In order for me to consider GMail, here are a few things that I need:
    • Fully integrated address book that synchronizes with Outlook and PDA's
    • Fully integrated calendar that synchronizes with Outlook and PDA's and that can send my cell phone/pager alerts and reminders
    • A generica area for storing files that have nothing to do with email (Yahoo's Briefcase)
    • Personalized weather, news, stock information, music station, movie listings, etc.
    • Integrated messenger
    • Integrated message boards (Yahoo Groups)
    • Ability to make my own customized web page that accesses all of the above information
    • NOT data mine my email

      • And that's just a start.
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    1. Re:Google catch-up TODO list by Laurentiu · · Score: 3, Informative

      Dude, you're missing the point. I don't want an e-mail account that also does dishes. Oh wait... Damn! Anyway, nothing you have there on your list is actually an improvement of the mailer interface. I don't care about Outlook - although, by the way: You can import address books from Outlook, Hotmail, Yahoo!, orkut, and other services to your Gmail account. I don't need a messenger to read e-mails. I don't want alerts and reminders on my cell phone/PDA/whatever - especially when some spammer decided to spoil my dinner. And if I want to be able to read mail on my PDA, all I need is a POP3 enabled mailer. I don't want to store my files online - although I could use GmailFS, or just send myself an e-mail with attachments. And I certainly don't care about discussion groups integrated in my e-mailer - although, again incidentally, reading discussion groups in GMail is a treat, due to the interface. Sorry, no go. Try again?

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  15. Like the size matters? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's more to Gmail than the 1GB account limit. The sooner that Microsoft, Yahoo and everyone else realise this the better.

    I've had a Hotmail account for almost 10 years now (way before Microsoft got it hands on it) and a Gmail account for just under a year too. In the last three years Hotmail has been going backwards, especially with regards to interoperability with browsers other than MSIE (every iteration has broken something or another) and core features. It's clear that Microsoft's strategy is to push people to pay for the premium Hotmail Plus service and to do that it's happy to let the free service atrophy to the minimum possible standards. Meanwhile, with Gmail the focus seems to be on providing as good a HTML-based email application as possible.

    I haven't had as much experience of Yahoo's mail service (I've got an account, but only because one was created automatically when I wanted to use another of their services) but from what I've seen it's little different to Hotmail.

    Gmail wins vs Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, etc in so many ways. The interface, the features (message threads, labels, etc) are just superior to what the competition has to offer and it's these reasons rather than the default account size that makes Gmail the best at what it does.

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  16. That's nothing by joschm0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    AT&T worldnet just raised their email storage limit from 10Mb to 25Mb. Woohoo.

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  17. Size doesn't matter by jbarr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's the functionality. To me, Gmail is more "stealthy" in its approach. It's just slick, fast, and doesn't force itself on me. "Labels" are truely innovative and implemented very well. "Search" is extremely flexible and useful. It is these features that help leverage the 1GB of storage into a really great tool.

    Now, I admit that Yahoo does offer a very nice email service, and its features are very complete, but I simply cannot stand the ads. Gmail's unobtrusive ads are far better from a user's perspective.

    Now, if Google would only fix their damned Forward function. If I receive a Rich Tect formatted or HTML formatted email, Gmail WILL NOT FORWARD IT without mangling the formatting (ie: it only forwards plain text.) This single problem prevents me from recommending Gmail to less-than-tech-savvy people, and unfortunatly, complaints and suggestions have fallen on deaf ears....

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  18. Re:I don't have a yahoo account... by bugbeak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yahoo has graphic ads.

    Graphic ads SUCK.

  19. Re:Competition is a great thing isn't it? by Trolling4Columbine · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What competition did Microsoft "shut down"? OS/2? BeOS?

    I'm afraid those operating systems were halted by their own inadequacy. Microsoft won out simply because there was nothing better available. Now we have Linux, but Microsoft already had dominated teh market by the time Linux became a viable desktop OS.

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  20. Re:I don't have a yahoo account... by bwcarty · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yahoo also appends an advertisement to the bottom of messages you send out.

  21. Too many coincidences. by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Why not believe them. The way people use web mail, certainly my usage has changed over the years. Do you seriously expect Yahoo to stick with what worked for most people in 1997?

    Well, it's funny that they had that same quota from 1997 from then until last year when gmail's beta started growing, at which point they made it 250MB. Then they upped it to a gig - exactly what google offers - within a week of gmail's expansion to the general populace.

    If you believe in that many coincidences, you must have been on the OJ jury, would explain a lot.

  22. Re:Ooooh good... by earthbound+kid · · Score: 3, Informative
    ...that means more room for all the spam, pr0n and other guff I get cos of using my yahoo account to 'register' for stuff. Even better - I only have to visit it once a year or even every two to empty it all out.


    I know you're just trying to be funny, but actually Yahoo doesn't count the stuff in its spam box towards your 250mb total, so you already didn't actually have to empty it unless you wanted to. I don't know if the new TOS with the gig will change this though.
  23. Re:I don't have a yahoo account... by umpa · · Score: 3, Informative

    I use Adblock for Firefox.

    Now I don't see graphical ads in yahoo mail.

  24. Hotmail prevents searching at 10mb of mail by purduephotog · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just went a few rounds with hotmail's CSRs- the mail search feature has disappeared.

    So I wrote and asked, and they said after 10 meg you can no longer search in the message body, just subject and to/from.

    They then point to a little known clause in section 11 of their TOS- Hotmail can do anything to their service they want to without informing said end users.

    Full conversational email available (in broken indian-ese) if you'd like it.

  25. Re:I don't have a yahoo account... by ZiakII · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yahoo mail also allows POP3 access.

    Google does allow this as well, I just did it for my home and work computer 1 month ago, below is the attached site that shows you how to do so.

    http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answ er=13273