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Adobe Acrobat Toolbar Worse than Malware?

Phr3n3tik writes "Adobe Acrobat has long included a toolbar plugin to automate PDF Making from Office Products. Those who found the toolbar an eyesore, or just used it infrequently could always hide it from view. Not so in their new versions, (6, and 7 apparently.) Their new take on the PDFMaker toolbar is getting some users riled up, since it is harder to Move/Hide/Delete/Uninstall this new toolbar than many forms of malware!"

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  1. Not just 6 and 7 by SdnSeraphim · · Score: 5, Informative

    I haven't used Acrobat 4 for quite a long time. However I cannot find a way to remove the PDF toolbar even after I have removed the software completely from my machine.

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    1. Re:Not just 6 and 7 by justforaday · · Score: 5, Informative

      IIRC, it's the PDFMaker.dot file in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\Startup.

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    2. Re:Not just 6 and 7 by Listen+Up · · Score: 2, Informative

      That is wrong for Adobe Acrobat 7.0 and Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Pro. The toolbar is now found in a DLL file which is a bitch to remove.

  2. Who cares? by bogie · · Score: 3, Informative

    I mean geez I try not to bitch about the dupes and crappy stories that get posted here, but man is this a non-story.

    btw a good free pdf creatore for windows.
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreat or/

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    1. Re:Who cares? by boarder8925 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here's a better one:

      OpenOffice.org

      Just use the export-to-PDF button.

  3. Is this news? by flynt · · Score: 4, Informative

    I can remove the toolbar (Acobat Pro 6) from all the office products I just tried (only word and excel). The first link in this story is something about Visio, which is an add-on to office i think. I don't have that product, so I can't say. The other post is for office for mac osX, so I can't say there either. But the problem doesn't seem to be as big as the write-up suggests, surprised?

    1. Re:Is this news? by justforaday · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ahhh, but does it stay off when you quit and restart the program? My experience has been that it will always revert itself to on with a restart. This is with versions 4 and 6 (the two that I've used on my machine), so maybe it's been fixed in 7.

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    2. Re:Is this news? by LurkerXXX · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, it does stay off. Close Word. Relaunch Word... still gone. Reboot machine, lanuch Word... still gone. No problems. I didn't have a problem with 6 either. Are you sure some doc or spyware didn't change the default config of Word on your machine?

  4. How to remove... by Golgafrinchan · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here's a page that provides instructions for how to remove the Acrobat Toolbar from Word.

    Instructions

    Worked for me!

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  5. Version 5 by Flave · · Score: 3, Informative

    I refuse to use anything newer than version 5 of Acrobat. They completely and totally fucked up the product after this release.

  6. Maybe it's just me but... by xero9 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Isn't it as simple as right-clicking the toolbar area and unchecking PDFmaker? I did this in about 2 seconds and it's gone.

  7. OS X by nottsp1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Its annoying in Word 2004 for Mac.. always there in the toolbar. Also, its shit becuase if you've got Acrobat 7 installed, any pdf's you view in Safari have to open Acrobat first, no matter how many times you tell it to 'always open with preview'. Bugger.

  8. Adobe-Yahoo customer apathy connection by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Informative

    Adobe seems to have partnered with Yahoo! to get Adobe Reader users to install the Yahoo! toolbar. When you go to adobe.com to download Adobe Reader, they try to bundle a lot of other junk with it as well (Yahoo! toolbar, Adobe Download Manager, etc.) It's getting really annoying.

    I hate the way Acrobat loads in my browser window when I click a link to a PDF file, instead of simply opening Acrobat outside of my browser window. I end up with half the screen taken up by toolbars. It's ridiculous.

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  9. not so simple by infinite+jester · · Score: 4, Informative

    On OS-X, at least, it installs itself automatically when doing an Acrobat Reader installation. I had to manually uninstall it from the Internet Plug-ins folder in order to use the significantly faster Schubert PDF Browser Plugin .

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    1. Re:not so simple by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why would you want to install Acrobat Reader at all? Is there something wrong with Preview and the PDF stuff that's already built into the OS?

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  10. Openoffice too by CdBee · · Score: 2, Informative

    lol. OpenOffice also can export to PDF without Acrobat present.. I'm sure most people don't know that, else why do they buy Acrobat?

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  11. I don't even see this toolbar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Perhaps that's because, for obvious security reasons, I deactivated macros in MS word?

  12. how about don't install it by michaelbuddy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wouldn't mess with it anyway. You can use Ghostscript. And you can used the modified primo pdf from active pdf. it's a free PDF creator.

    http://www.primopdf.com

    works great. one time it will ask you for personal info after you make like 25 pdfs, but you can just push the cancel button if you don't want to give them any statistical information. It appears as a printer on your computer. I use it, it's great.

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  13. Not necessarily $2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Rather than pay $100 for acrobat on your $900 computer spend $2000 on a mac and do it for free. That is a good idea.

    To be fair, the Mac Mini doesn't even come close to $2000. Still more expensive than Acrobat though. ;)

  14. Solution by MagPulse · · Score: 4, Informative

    Search your hard drive for "PDFMaker.dot" or probably anything else withe PDFMaker in the name. On my machine it installs it here:

    C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\STARTUP

    That will get rid of it in all your Office apps including Outlook.

  15. Re:Versions by nes11 · · Score: 2, Informative

    version 5 doesn't work with MS Office 2003 at all. My office installed 2003 last week & now, every time I open Word, I get an error message that says Acrobat 5 is incompatible & i have the choice to either go buy an upgrade or disable Acrobat while using Word. So sticking with 5 is fine, as long as you don't upgrade anything else either.

  16. Here's how to turn it off: by khrtt · · Score: 4, Informative

    Uncheck this:

    Edit>Preferences>Startup>Show Messages and automatically update

    The banner goes away, and, as a bonus, if you have auto-update disabled, the stupid app stops tickling the network too.

    C'mon gentlemen, this is not worth a slashdot article. Next time start your engines before flooring the pedal.

  17. Obligatory.... by temojen · · Score: 3, Informative
    link to PDF Creator

    For those that don't know... it's a windows printer driver that makes PDFs of your document when you print to it... very handy.

    1. Re:Obligatory.... by rpozz · · Score: 2, Informative

      ..and for those of you using Linux it's a similar deal - print to a file and use ps2pdf, or 2pdf.

    2. Re:Obligatory.... by Feztaa · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also, openoffice can export directly to PDF.

  18. Re:OS X by micromoog · · Score: 3, Informative
    Rather than spend the money on this just go out and buy a Mac.

    Puh-leaze. Instead of spending money on Apple's overpriced wares, just use one of the many free alternatives, available on all of your favorite platforms.

  19. Re:Worse than malware? by l810c · · Score: 4, Informative
    The built in toolbars can be turned on/off, moved around and organized just how you like. Restart the program and your settings are remembered.

    I actually would not mind this toolbar being there. I even used it occasionally. But this thing does not behave like all the other tool bars. Turn it off or move it, restart program and Bam, there it is right back on the top row of toolbars pushing all the others down one line and reducing my view of the document.

    It is a very annoying POS, so I just uninstalled it.

  20. Adobe on how to completely uninstall toolbar: by TheGuano · · Score: 5, Informative
    For Windows:
    http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/328399.html

    For Mac:
    http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/329307.html

    Annoying, but at least they show you how to get around the reappear/reinstall/undeletable garbage the toolbar usually subjects you to.

  21. Or better yet.. by Lysol · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple-P -> Save as PDF :)

  22. Re:OS X by eomnimedia · · Score: 2, Informative
    To remove the PDFMaker for Mac Office 2004 simply trash the files located at:
    /Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Startup/Excel/PDFMaker.xla
    /Applicati ons/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Startup/PowerPoint/PDFMaker.ppa
    /Appl ications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Startup/Word/PDFMaker.dot
    As far as the stupid PDF viewer in Safari, trash the Adobe-related files (you'll know them when you seen them) located at:
    /Library/Internet Plug-Ins
    If you want to view PDFs within Safari go and download the "PDF Browser Plugin" (free for personal use):
    http://www.schubert-it.com/pluginpdf/
  23. CuteWriter free by michaelbuddy · · Score: 2, Informative

    This software is similar to my previous post:

    another free replacement for your toolbar.

    http://www.cutepdf.com/products/cutepdf/Writer.a sp

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  24. Former Adobe Technical Support rep here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    (posting anonymously to save my ass)

    This article is 100% bullshit.

    If you actually search the support documents, you can find instructions for removing PDFMaker. Or, if you're doing a first-time installation, you can just do a custom installation and *gasp* tell it not to install PDFMaker to begin with!

    What made version 6.0 and 7.0 annoying is the "self-heal" feature that would put the PDFMaker files back after you deleted them. However, if you use the custom install approach, the self-heal will not put PDFmaker back.

    Trivia: I personally have spoken with people who either want PDFMaker gone or want it back. The latter grossly outnumber the former.

  25. Yes it is malware by emarkp · · Score: 2, Informative
    It was causing Word to crash on me on exit. I couldn't get rid of it. Finally I uninstalled Acrobat. And I won't go back.

    Of course I don't need it so much now that I've switched to OpenOffice anyway.

  26. Acrobat uses by Vandil+X · · Score: 2, Informative

    Acrobat is used extensively in commercial prepress print publishing workflows that use PostScript.

    That's essentially every newspaper and magazine with a circulation of 40,000 and up.

    And most of those publications use Macs for the final pagination & printing, yet still purchase Acrobat for the fine-tuning features of Distiller.

    Also, Acrobat allows you to set document security attributes that OpenOffice.org's "Export to PDF" and Mac OS X's native "Save as PDF" don't support.

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  27. Yeah, but by multiOSfreak · · Score: 2, Informative

    OS X's built-in PDF maker sucks. It doesn't do any optimization at all, so anything with graphics turns out huge.

    For full control of *all* PDF settings, it's best to make a postscript file and then use Distiller to crank out a PDF. It's not a free solution, but it's the best thing out there.

  28. Too integrated by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 3, Informative

    Recent versions of Acrobat reader and writer which have come with other Adobe products and which I use for testing are really annoying. They hook into Word. They hook into Safari. They integrate with numerous apps by adding buttons and toolbars. It is really bothersome. On OS X, why do I need an extra button in Word That tries to sell me Acrobat Writer. It's not like Word on OS X can't already make PDFs. Also, Acrobat reader is much slower than Preview and grinds the browser to a halt while trying to open PDFs inline. That is half the reason PDFs suck so badly on Windows. Worse yet, recent version of reader on OS X silently fail to open some PDFs. Adobe needs to get their act together.

  29. Stupid formatting (space) by antdude · · Score: 2, Informative
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  30. bad, but not fatal by drteknikal · · Score: 2, Informative

    Prior to Acrobat 6, if you said not to install PDFMaker, it didn't. Starting with 6, it does it anyway. However, we've found that simply deleting the templates placed in the Office startup folders is enough to remove the integration and toolbars.

    The program installs things you specifically exclude. That is bad. The effect on end users is somewhere between confusing and aggravating. But at a support level, we've had very good luck removing the templates before creating workstation images, and we've been able to mostly avoid the problems as a result.

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  31. open source pdf creator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    PDFCreator easily creates PDFs from any Windows program. Use it like a printer in Word, StarCalc or any other Windows application.

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

    Works like a charm.

  32. Toolbars are very easy to remove by megalomaniacs4u · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes the visio version of the bar is right PITA.

    The toolbars are dead easy to remove.

    1. Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs
    2. Find Acrobat Professional
    3. Click "Change", wait a little while
    4. Click "Next"
    5. Make sure the modify radio button is selected and click "Next"
    6. Expand "Create Adobe PDF"
    7. Expand "Acrobat PDF Maker"
    8. For each toolbar you want to remove click the drop-down icon and select "This feature will not be available"
    9. Hit "Next"
    10. Hit "Update" & wait a while...
  33. Re:Worse than malware? by nojomofo · · Score: 2, Informative

    OT, but I have to say this. Excel has problems. I hate the reviewing toolbar. I just don't use it. It takes up valuable real estate. Whenever I open up a .xls that was saved by somebody who had the reviewing toolbar turned on (which is 98% of the rest of the world), the toolbar appears again, completely overriding my settings until I turn the toolbar off again. Fricking POS.

  34. Re:Apple not so saintly given QuickTime task by ewhac · · Score: 2, Informative
    Any body know why I need the qttask.exe running all the time?

    You don't. Go install QuickTime Alternative instead.

    Schwab

  35. Re:/. goes down yet another notch by Phr3n3tik · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are wrong though. There are no .dot files with acrobat7.

    How can you delete the file, when it isn't there?

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  36. Someone hasn't done his homework by sankarson · · Score: 2, Informative

    The PDF toolbar V6 can be hidden by right clicking on a toolbar and unselecting PDFMAker from the list of toolbars. The same way as every other toolbar in Office. What's the fuss about?

    I suspect the problem is more with people...

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