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Microsoft's Tips for Buying an MP3 Player

An Anonymous Reader writes "In another extension of Microsoft's 'Plays for Sure' campaign, the company has launched a web page with six tips to help consumers purchase the 'correct' MP3 Player for them. Among the insights of the article hard drive-based players suck and a stopwatch is a useful feature to have on your player. Unsurprisingly, the iPod meets none of Microsoft's criteria. A humorous commentary is available, of course." From the article: "6. Don't get locked into one online store. Have you ever been on the hunt for a particular song? Some obscure indie rock tune or rare jazz performance you heard on the radio? You might have to shop at more than one store before you find the song you're looking for."

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  1. one thing that always bothered me by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    few with fm radio

    how come mp3 players with fm radio are so hard to find?

    doesn't it occur to manufacturers/ consumers how much functionality is added with so little effort by adding fm radio?

    i have an iriver IFP-180T solely on the basis of it having an fm radio

    how much does the fm radio circuitry add to the cost of an mp3 player? 50 cents?

    will someone please enlighten me then how come fm radio is so hard to find in mp3 players?

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    1. Re:one thing that always bothered me by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 5, Funny

      The circuitry for

      a good FM radio

      is not quite that cheap.

      Slashdot has changed its buffering system, by the way.

      They've increased the sentence-per-paragraph allowance to 2.

      Just FYI.

  2. Re:why isn't there a Linux mp3 player? by mboverload · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Neuros is open source. Hell, even the electrical diagrams are provided!

  3. Please mod fscking hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Approximate figures based on CD-quality WMA (64 Kbps)

  4. Re:Well, in all fairness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The thing that Apple consistently gets right is the usability. I have an MP3 player with display, but it's a pain to use. There are just too many user interface inconsistencies. The thing won't even stop fading each track when you skip through a couple of tracks at a time. I realize that the display won't fix that. Given that I want to listen to music and not stare at it, I have to say that a usable player without display beats a player with a display and horrible interaction design any day. I'd prefer if the Shuffle had a display, but it doesn't need one to come out on top of the competition.

  5. Crazy Apple Rumors Site said it best: by earthbound+kid · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like the CARS take on it:

    • The company that manufactures your MP3 player should never be named after a fruit. That's just hippie bullshit.
    • Under no circumstances should your MP3 player be stylish. You don't want to be taken for a dandy. After all, you never know when you may find yourself incarcerated through an unfortunate series of events that are no fault of your own. And you know what they do to dandies in prison. Yikes.
    • When picking an operating system or office suite, it's a great idea to go with the one with the highest market share, because you're guaranteed a quality product that will be around for years to come. But not with flash-based MP3 players. It's a completely different situation. Completely.
    • etc.

    CARS is good stuff!

    1. Re:Crazy Apple Rumors Site said it best: by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Funny
      C'mon, you forgot to post the best one:
      • Always pick a player that plays music in a format that restricts your rights as much as possible. That says "I'm not a communist."


      [link in original]
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  6. Be sure to get that FM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Be sure to get that FM receiver option so you can listen to higher-quality music when you get tired of your 64 Kbps WMA collection.

  7. Re:Well, in all fairness by Storlek · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have yet to hear my iPod skip at all, ever, and I ride my bike and run with it in my pocket. It gets shaken most of the time it's on.

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  8. Re:CD Quality? by x136 · · Score: 5, Funny
    "*Approximate figures based on CD-quality WMA (64 Kbps)"
    Hey, cut them a break. They probably meant that 64KBps WMA approaches old, worn-out cassette tape quality. It's a common typo. I mean, the keys for "CD-quality" and "old cassette tape quality" are right next to each other.
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  9. HD-based MP3 players by haggar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, in a way I tend to agree with MS here, in the sense that I always thought moving parts are a bad thing for mobile entertainment devices. Idealy, if it is possible, I'd like my MP3 player to be fully solid state tech. Less power consumption, more rugged, and perhaps higher data density.

    Of course, when the price factors in he equation, HD starts to look much more attractive...

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    1. Re:HD-based MP3 players by nordicfrost · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, I don't know about the ther players but the iPod has an excellent record when it comes to toughness. People may complain about the battery and... ...well all they complain about is the battery, but the harddrive is not failure prone. Folks with iPods have been jogging with them since gen. 1, and I have yet to see someone complain about a HDD failure due to jogging. My active family uses their minis to jog, inside moist jackets, and it still keeps ticking. The iPod is one tough player.

  10. Re:Well, in all fairness by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny

    A bit over a month ago, I got back onto a dirt bike for the first time in years. I wasn't doing anything crazy, just some easy trail riding and off-road sightseeing, mostly in the same general area. I was on my way back from one of these outings, humming down the track I'd been using to get home each day, came around a corner into a narrow section only to find some kind soul had dumped a half-metre high pile of dirt across the path. I didn't have my dirt bike reflexes back by any means, and hit the pile off balance and carrying a fair bit of momentum.

    The front suspension bottomed out at the same time as I pitched forward, then those big springs uncompressed and slammed the tank into my groin hard enough to crease the plastic. I'd lost a lot of speed by then and didn't so much crash as roll to a standstill and fall off. It was probably only a few minutes, but it seemed like hours before I could move enough to take a breath and turn the MP3 player off. As a result of this experience I can vouch for two things;

    1. the iPod never skipped a note
    2. hearing the Foo Fighters' MIA still makes my eyes water.

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  11. My advice for buying an mp3 player by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful
    First the most important. Set your budget. You know how much money you got. Count it and don't let anyone tell you to spend more then you want to. If the player you want costs more SAVE up for it. Do never buy with store credit. It ain't worth it.
    1. HD vs flash vs CD vs Minidisc vs Someweird cd like formats.
      • HD's have the most storage but consume a lot of elec and are more vulnerable. They do not skip. MS most be of its rocker. It is CD's that skip.
      • Flash is robuust and storage is increasing but still tiny compared to HD's. Also cost less elec to run so longer battery life.
      • CD's were a cheap way to get loads of storage before flash sizes increased without the costs of HD. Now all but useless. Big, vulnareble to skipping and limited to something like 640mb.
      • Minidisc. Smaller then CD's but still limited compared to HD. A market segment on its own. I had one before the HD player and it was sweet but the HD is sweeter.
      • Weird formats. Don't bother.

      Basic conclusion? Determine your size needs. This is based on A. How long do you listen it in one go. B. What is your tolerance for repeats. C. How often do you chance your songs. If you use it 4 hours per day, can't stand to hear the same song more then once in a week and never replace your songlist you are going to need more space then someone who likes to listen to the same album over and over again. HD's also can be damaged more easily by extreme rough use. Not by carrying them with you in your pocket while running but if you throw your stuff around the hd might not survive. For most people there will be no problems.

    2. Goodies. Ehm yeah right. Goodies are for sucking in the gullible. It is like those stickers "now tastes better" or "free toy inside". You are buying a music player. Concentrate on that. A carrying harness is nice and all but you will most likely put the thing in your pocket. Other stuff like stopwatch is clearly MS being of its rocker. Anyway your mobile phone probably has one and you can always just use something called a watch.

      So don't be tempted by "extras". Extras are easy. Making a damned good solid mp3 player is not.

    3. Display. Obvious dig at the iPod shuffle. Also MS not understanding a thing. If you have created your ideal music collection and just want to listen to it on shuffle mode then why do you need a display? Determine your own needs. If you never use the playlist in xmms/winamp to select a song why would you suddenly want to do so on the move? If you do then get a good display AND a mp3 player with a browse system that doesn't drive you up the wall.
    4. Radio. Let a professional make your play list. Oh yeah. Big brother knows best and for your extra convenience they will have lots of MS commercials to make sure you make the right decisions. God how can a single company be so out of touch. RADIO SUCKS wich is why we have music players in the first place. It costs next to nothing to add fm capabilty HOWEVER this also means radios are cheap. You can get one for a few bucks or even as a free toy. If you want a radio. Get one. Don't waste money on an mp3 player. Further more if you use your player inside or worse in a train expect incredibly bad reception. It also adds clutter to your player. Again determine your own needs. If you sometimes want to listen to the radio then fine look for it in your player. Just realize this one simple fact. Portable radio's are cheaper, last longer and been around far longer then personal music players. So why do so few people seem to use portable radios on the move? Why do radio's in cars come with personal music players (cassetes)?
    5. Pick the right size. I know bill gates never really said that 640k should be enough for anyone but this page is so out of date. If you are buying less then 512mb these days you are getting screwed. Prices have dropped and even 1gb flash players are pretty affordable. 128mb or less is something you should get for free.

      As for the whole wma nonsense. My hearing is pretty bad but on the whole

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  12. Mirror of humourous commentary by Winckle · · Score: 5, Informative
  13. Re:Well, in all fairness by Spruitje · · Score: 5, Informative


    Yes they did. They said the HD-based players skip if you move them around while they're playing.
    Anyone know if this is true?

    To let an iPod skip is almost impossible.
    The iPod stores about 30 minutes of music in ram.
    Every 30 minutes it spins its harddrive for about 10 secondes to load another 30 minutes of music into ram.
    So, to let an iPod skip is next to impossible.

  14. Re:thank you for the honesty by value_added · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I think the reason we don't want or care about FM radio can be summed up in two words: ... Clear. Channel.

    I assume what everyone is talking about when they dismiss radio as being teh suck is commerical radio. Personally, I stopped listening to commercial FM long before it became the province of Clear Channel and friends.

    What is readily available on FM that is not commerical includes the following:

    • NPR News
    • NPR Programming
    • Jazz
    • Classical

    If you're interested in music only, you may want to start with something like this station if you don't have something similar in your own backyard. Most likely more interesting than what you're listening to at the moment.

    Then, of course, if you're not the musical type and have a preference for animated conversations in which people share their opinions with others who have identical opinions, there's always AM radio.

  15. Re:Well, in all fairness by iowannaski · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, making a player with no screen is doing themselves a disservice, while making a player with a color screen is lunacy.

    Monochrome or bust, baby!

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  16. Re:Well, in all fairness by kalel666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "then those big springs uncompressed and slammed the tank into my groin hard enough to crease the plastic"

    See? There's your problem. You should always use a groin of case hardened steel, instead of cheaping out and going for plastic. Lesson learned.

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  17. Re:Well, in all fairness by bdsesq · · Score: 5, Informative

    The base Shuffle player holds 512 MB of music in a proprietary format.

    Hmm, in all fareness RTFM.
    The base Shuffle hold 512MB of
    MP3 (8 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, AAC (8 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Music Store, M4A, M4B, M4P), Audible (formats 2, 3, and 4) and WAV
    You can see for yourself at http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/specs.html

  18. 3. You'll want a display. by teddaman · · Score: 5, Funny

    So you can enjoy the Blue Screen of Death!

  19. Re:Well, in all fairness by ChuyMatt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    well, i would just like to say that the shuffle is not for you. For people who don't care about what they are hearing as long is songs that they like and without commercials, then that is for them.

    For us, the 40 was the best option. Keep in mind that there are others out there that do not have our wants and lives.

  20. Re:Do You Get the Shuffle? by Total_Wimp · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Shuffle is perfect and because it plays in random mode it is great that no song will be repeated too quickly.


    This is the part I don't get about the iPod Shuffle. Didn't just about every MP3 player do shuffle mode both before and since?

    I'm not saying it's bad, but I just don't get it as a selling point. It's like marketing the new BMW - Stearing Wheel. "It has a steering wheel so you can make turns!" um... ok. good. Anything else worth mentioning?

    I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other about whether people should be buying the shuffle. I just think that if they're buying it _because_ of shuffle mode, maybe they should be made aware that there are a few other players out there that may meet their needs.

    TW

  21. Re:Well, in all fairness by gb506 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mod this dude up. I'm a bit tired of fiber-deficient /.ers trashing products and services that don't fit their own personal needs. Find another, for Pete's sake! There are over 6 billion people on this rock. You can't build a unique iPod for all of 'em.