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Ars Technica Builds Make Magazine's Steadicam

An anonymous reader writes "Make magazine has been out for a little over a month now and was given high marks in a Slashdot review. Ars Technica has taken their review one step further by building the $14 steadicam project and testing it out. (be sure to check out the QuickTime video at the end to see their results...)"

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  1. make magazine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    make: *** No rule to make target `magazine'. Stop.

  2. Lego solves rubik's cube by rescendent · · Score: 3, Funny

    I like the Lego solving a rubik's cube... I thought of some great ideas using the Lego computer, but I never had _that_ kind of vision!

  3. Something O'Reilly got high marks on Slashdot? by tquinlan · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's next? People around here will praise Linux? ;)

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    1. Re:Something O'Reilly got high marks on Slashdot? by TheKidWho · · Score: 4, Funny

      no, ms open sources windows under gpl

  4. As expected? by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the article:

    For those stuck on dial-up, here is a quick summary of our results:

    * Both "handheld" shots were very shaky with the electronic stabilization performing only marginally better.
    * The "steadicam only" shot was a significant improvement over either "handheld" shot.
    * Turning on the electronic stabilization made the "steadicam" shot even smoother.

    Despite all of this, we found that there was still a little bit of shake in the picture. We expect that a little practice with the steadicam could have vastly improved our shooting technique. All in all, we would say that this project was a big success!


    I saw the video. It was a little better, but the combination of the two made it much better. Unfortunately, it's still far too shaky to consider it useful for any indie film that doesn't want to be branded with the Blair Witch style. So why would you go to the trouble?

    1. Re:As expected? by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So why would you go to the trouble?

      Because there are many thousands of us who shoot video on a level between "dad in the backyard with the kids" and "Oscar nominee" who might want some improvement in our quality?

    2. Re:As expected? by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Informative
      I would add that most of these $15 'steadicams' are equivalent to many of the low-end steadicams that normally don't sell for that much money. The really high-end stuff (e.g. for helicopters) involves gyros to maintain stability against the natural tendency to vibrate, while still allowing gradual motion.

      One could easily add some small gyros to a handheld steadicam design and still come out fairly inexpensive. Take three 6v electric motors and a 6v battery. Add a wheel on the end of each motor, and mount them so that the wheels spin in three planes. Add weights to the wheels to balance them. Continue adding weights until you have enough stabilization. Place this apparatus in a padded box to keep it quiet, and mount the box.

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    3. Re:As expected? by Slack3r78 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ars' video samples are really subpar for this type of device. Slashdot covered a story on a nearly identical setup here about a year ago and the results are *much* more impressive. As with anything, experience and practice make all the difference in the world. Ars is a great site, but film isn't exactly their focus. :-)

    4. Re:As expected? by Deffexor · · Score: 5, Informative

      Unfortunately, it's still far too shaky to consider it useful for any indie film that doesn't want to be branded with the Blair Witch style. So why would you go to the trouble?

      I'll offer up an answer, since I wrote the review.

      I realized today that there was a small problem with our video test: we weren't following any subject. Most steadicam shots are either following a subject or moving around a subject within a few feet of the camera. As you saw in the test, there was no subject. Consequently, even the tiniest movements seemed to make the whole world shake.

      The other half (as I mentioned in the review) was that we didn't practice much with the steadicam. I imagine with a little work, we could have gotten a really nice shot. One of the areas that could have used some practice was paying attention to how the side bar is held (since it controls the side-to-side motion). You'll see in the last shot that overall it is very smooth, except that there is a little side to side movement.

      All in all, the $14 steadicam was a fun build and worthwhile if you don't have a few thousands dollars for a real steadicam.

    5. Re:As expected? by badasscat · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ars' video samples are really subpar for this type of device. Slashdot covered a story on a nearly identical setup here about a year ago and the results are *much* more impressive. As with anything, experience and practice make all the difference in the world.

      This is probably key - professional steadicam operators are trained specifically in how to operate a steadicam (they're not just camera operators who decide to strap on a rig one day for kicks). If you've ever seen any behind-the-scenes footage of steadicam shots being filmed, it's pretty amazing how smoothly these guys move.

      A lot of amateur camera operators - be it still or motion picture cameras - think good camera work is almost entirely dependent on the equipment. In fact, I'd say way more than half of what it takes to get good results lies with the operator. You can't put together a steadicam rig and then walk down the street like you'd walk normally and expect a steady shot - that won't work even with a real steadicam. You need to walk as smoothly as possible and make smooth, even camera movements. It doesn't look like that was done here, although to Ars' credit, they do note that they probably could have gotten better results with a bit of practice.

      I do think that a rig like this could be a pretty decent option for indie videographers willing to actually learn and practice the proper techniques.

    6. Re:As expected? by TeaQuaffer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's just a little Physics, not magic: from Johnny Chung Lee's website (and also in the magazine):

      How you use it is 80% of the smoothness. This even is true for the professional stuff with all the fancy shocks and hydraulics. Don't expect this thing to perform miracles, you have to practice using your arms and body to create a smooth motion. Watch your hands while you walk, and see how level you can keep them relative to the ground. Watching the shadow of your hands on a sunny say is an easy way to isolate thier movement. Keep your legs bent and learn how to "glide". I talked with someone who has used professional steady-cams and they said this was, "really, just as good." Getting good results is not so much about the equipment, but how you use it. That's really true about everything.

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    7. Re:As expected? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 5, Interesting
      One could easily add some small gyros to a handheld steadicam design and still come out fairly inexpensive. Take three 6v electric motors and a 6v battery. Add a wheel on the end of each motor, and mount them so that the wheels spin in three planes. Add weights to the wheels to balance them. Continue adding weights until you have enough stabilization. Place this apparatus in a padded box to keep it quiet, and mount the box.

      Since all you really need to dampen is movement along the pitch and roll axes, a single gyroscope with the axis mounted vertically would be adequate. And rather than trying to build and balance your own, you'd do well to save yourself the headache and pick up a nice surplus military missile guidance gyroscope, like this. Knock that spinner out of its gimbals and I bet it'd be just right...

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    8. Re:As expected? by n3k5 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      This is probably key - professional steadicam operators are trained specifically in how to operate a steadicam (they're not just camera operators who decide to strap on a rig one day for kicks). If you've ever seen any behind-the-scenes footage of steadicam shots being filmed, it's pretty amazing how smoothly these guys move.
      Thanks for giving me the opportunity to say: This is not even wrong. (I like saying that.)

      Professional steadicam operators use equipment that is completely different from consumer/prosumer 'steadicam'-ish gear. They come in teams of two: The one carrying the rig isn't able to look through a viewfinder, so a second person has to control focus, aperture etc. The apparatus has so much inertia that the carrier can actually hop up and down and the camera will still hardly move, let alone rotate. Lots of practice is only half of the story: the huge weight strapped to the body kind of forces the operator to move smoothly, anything else would be totally exhausting.

      Equipment in the two figure dollar range, on the other hand, isn't more than a handheld tripod that keeps the centre of gravity around your hands by introducing a counter-weight that roughly equals the weight of your camera. With consumer cameras becoming ever smaller and lighter, that isn't much. Jerks introduced by shaky hands are pretty much all they can compensate for somewhat adequately.

      However, this isn't what ars technica actually tested: They walked down a street. The picture resulting from this has to be shaky hand cam style. The "little bit of shake" that the reviewer attested is actually insanely wild. If you haven't got a more expensive steadicam setup, you really only have these two options: Either purposely go for the blair witch style, or let only the actor walk (when shown in the picture, as opposed to the 1st person view) and put the camra person plus camera on some sort of wheeled vehicle, like a dolly with a tripod.

      It seems like the ars techinca reviewers had too much fun doing their oh-so-cool project; not only were they too enthusiastic about the marginal improvement in image quality, they also didn't really factor in the problems they had (they needed much longer than the make mag instructions projected and ran into issues the instructions didn't even touch on) when writing the concluding summary.

      Not that there's anything bad about this: With a USD 14 handheld tripod, you're supposed to have fun, not emulate Oscar-league steadicam gear. And yes you can train to move super-smooth, but still steadicam and steady camcorder are two entirely different issues.
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    9. Re:As expected? by ibennetch · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd just like to point out that the stabilization that goes in to a helicopter gyro is different from even the more expensive steadicam rigs(1) that you need for a heafty camera. Most helicopter gyros that I'm aware of run 6 figures, mount to the helicopter itself, and use gryoscopes rather than counterweights and springs (disclaimer: I don't actually work with helicopter mounts so I may be in error with regards to common technique. I can only repeat what I've heard from a reputable source). So yes, what you've said here is correct, but I believe you're comparing two different technologies.

      I have a friend with a Steadicam (I think his was around $20,000, but I forget the exact number) and he can work magic with it...I really love the look of something that's been shot on one, but there's a trend now to over-use them in a lot of situations where it's not needed :-/

      And finally, I like your idea of trying a couple of gyroscopes to balance it out. Many of us have tried that experiement with the rotating bicycle tire; I'm guessing it wouldn't take nearly that much effort to keep a smallish camcorder steady...you could shrink down the diameter a bit and speeding it up gains you even more; so I imagine something like you propose is very viable...maybe a good weekend project.

      (1) I can't find the link right now but I think spending about $60,000 on a Steadicam rig will get a "decent" one for a heavy camera. But what do I know, I work in TV, not film.

    10. Re:As expected? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 3, Informative
      $1000? $1000 is just for openers. See this typical rate schedule from The Steadicam Operator's Manual of Style:


      $ 1000.00 at the time of your appearance on the set
      $ 2.00 per foot forward (walking)
      $ 5.00 per foot forward (running)
      $ 3.50 per foot backward (walking)
      $ 7.00 per foot backward (running)
      $ 10.00 actor in the shot
      $ 15.00 actor not in the shot
      $ 20.00 per flight of stairs (up)
      $ 15.00 per flight of stairs (down)
      $ 10.00 each additional consecutive flight
      $ 25.00 to put the camera in the Low-Mode
      $ 15.00 to put it back
      $ 35.00 to change sides with the Arm
      $ 25.00 to put it back
      $ 5.00 per rehearsal minute, 16mm & Arri 2C
      $ 10.00 per rehearsal minute, Arri 35BL
      $ 15.00 per rehearsal minute, Panaflex on Steadicam
      $ 35.00 per rehearsal minute, Panaglide
      $ 3.50 per focus change
      $ 2.50 per iris change
      $ 8.50 both focus & iris at the same time

      Remind the producer that the above costs are on a per take basis and not on a per shot basis. Further more the above costs vary according to the length of the lens used. Additional cost for the16 or 18mm is negligible but repeated takes with the 50 or 85mm can become prohibitively expensive.
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  5. The article was a reprint... by Dzimas · · Score: 4, Informative
    Johnny Lee originally published detailed instructions for making the cheap Steadicam on the 'net well over a year ago. See http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/ for details. Anyone with semi-reasonable googling skills can have this information without having to pay almost $15 to get it in a mag with pretty pictures.

    I was a bit disappointed to see the article, actually -- when a "cool" new print mag recycles the Internet, you know the end of paper is nigh.

    1. Re:The article was a reprint... by prockcore · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was a bit disappointed to see the article, actually -- when a "cool" new print mag recycles the Internet, you know the end of paper is nigh.

      Yeah, but in 15 years, my kids can flip through my old issues of Make and find fun projects.. while that dude's site is going to be long gone.

      The internet is great, but far too many sites are gone forever.

  6. Saw this 3 years ago by filmmaker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the summer of 2002 I saw an article about the homemade steadicam on slashdot. I then used it for many shots of this independent production of dubious artistic or technical merit.

    I loved it, but the whole time I was using it, I kept thinking of possible ways to improve it without spending any money if possible. I tried using more weight, which helps, but only very marginally. Anyone know a way to improve it inexpensively without electronic stabilization?

    1. Re:Saw this 3 years ago by DianeOfTheMoon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think some time in a marching band would probably eliminate most of the shake, with the "steadicam" removing the rest...

      In marching band, you have to learn how to walk without disturbing your airflow due to steps, and that should translate very well into camera work, with the weighted cam evening out any missteps and normal hand jitters.

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  7. Re:Timmy Boi's new payola scam... by ArsEric · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you're referring to the subscription links, we don't get anything in return from the publisher, financial or otherwise. It's strictly there for the readers' benefit, should they decide to subscribe.

  8. Ripoff? by plimsoll · · Score: 4, Informative
    I was kind of relieved to see that the reviewed Make article was written by the author of the original $14 Steadycam site, Johnny Chung Lee. The man's a hack, and I mean that in the most endearing way.

    Not to review a review of an instruction, but I think Ars Technica is being a little hard on the Chung. Operating a steadycam is a bit of an artform unto itself.

    A steadycam will not turn Shakes the Clown into the next Scorsese, but once you learn the limitations of the axes you'll get results like Mr. Lee posts as samples on his site (see the bottom of the page, under "Using Your Steadycam").

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  9. Lousy test video by yroJJory · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I appreciate the effort, but a test video with no subject to focus attention on doesn't really show off how well any of the four tests are working. All I see are tarred cracks in the pavement jiggling in all four.

    Whereas, had they walked with someone down the street, it would have shown off the differences quite well.

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  10. Re:We're the results really that good? by j1ggl3x · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just because they built the tool doesn't mean they're pros at using it. I've read that even after you build the steadycam, it'll take awhile to get used to and become good at. For a better idea of the usefulness of building the steadycam, check out the movies near the bottom of the page by the original creator (especially where he follows the walking subject):

    http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

  11. Well, they haven't trained to use a Steadicam by Pfhor · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know if they cite the original source of the project:
    http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadyca m/
    It has testimonies of pro's who have used this hand made rig and a $800 steadicam rig, and they say both are great. What you get with the $800 right is a full body vest mount that allows you to mount the camera on your hip, for even smoother shots.

    As someone who has used a steadicam professional rig, i can say that with image stabilization on, the image actually produces strange movement, once you learn how to use the steadicam.

    You can't just pickup a camera attached to a steadicam and notice an amazing difference unless you have learned how to carry your body with the camera. What the steadicam does is make it a lot easier to do so (first your arm is extended at a lot lower angle than holding the camera in your hand and second, the added weight lessens shakes cause by your body).

    If you have ever seen someone use a steadicam, they walk more like a dancer than a doofus with a handicam.

    So to answer you question, after you train to use the steadicam (and have degeeked your forearm strength to be able to hold it for 45 minutes or so at a stretch without tiring) you can achieve shots that would have cost you $800 before, now for only $14. the remaining $786 could be spent on a 3ccd panasonic camera. Or saved for a dvx100 or a wireless mic set, etc.

  12. $15 an issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I am going to wait until it comes out in paperback.

  13. mod parent up by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 3, Insightful
    One of those inevitable moments when you wish you had a mod point left.

    As the parent poster noted - sites go away. Even if you archive stuff, you can lose 'em. Sure, paper burns too, but my parents had decades of National Geographic for me to peruse when I was a young'in and I'm glad they did.

    Some stuff needs to be more permanent than bits. In 50 years you may have technology to read electronically archived data from DVD-R and the like. But you'll still only need your eyeballs and a pair of hands to read Make or National Geographic.

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  15. Re:Impractical by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "How many of you are going to build this?"

    Well, if I decided to make an indie movie, I'd give it a go.

    "Why is it difficult to do the same while keeping the techie edge?"

    What's wrong with somebody cheaply solving a problem and publishing it? Should they hoard the knowledge or share it? That's the neat thing about the internet: publishing is cheap.

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  16. Taking it to the next level by plutonium83 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you want to take home build stabilizers to the next level, check this out. The test videos are VERY impressive.