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Brazil: Free Software's Biggest and Best Friend

soneca writes "From the last two years, Brazil's president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has turned the country into a tropical outpost of the free software movement. The government is switching from costly operating systems made by Microsoft and others to free operating systems."

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  1. Some article, same story. Dupe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/29/135925 3

  2. 2x in one day? by scubacuda · · Score: 2, Informative
    Geez, I wonder why the link in the /. submission was already grey...

    Hmmmm, could it be that it's a dupe?

  3. Registration Free Access to Free Software Story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  4. Reg-free links by icejai · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google news (includes reg-free nytimes link).

  5. Re:This is just what open sauce needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I hope nothing under the GPL is being used, as Brazil has a pretty sketchy record of recognising intellectual property rights.

    The article you link to is about breaking patents and manufacturing their own AIDS medication. Before someone jumps up and down screaming "so it's OK if it's medicine?", read the linked article to realize that this is A-OK according to a UN rule stating that nations can break the patent and produce their own medications in the case of an emergency. From the numbers I've read, it wouldn't be un-reasonable to say Brazil does have an emergency.

    Brazil has demonstrated that they have tried to play fair, and have paid for the medications from multinationals until now, despite being vocally against the said multinational corporation's tactics. They also make clear that they are "breaking" the patent, not outright ignoring it, in accordance to UN rules.

    I think we can jump up and down and throw a fit after some other more serious, blatant and un-ethical IP violations are put under the light. So far I don't think there's anything wrong with the Brazilian gov't using OSS. Or home-brewed HIV/AIDS medication.

  6. Re:Good by traabil · · Score: 3, Informative

    Norway has actually a very good project in this regard Skolelinux. The project aims at making a bespoke Linux distro for Norwegian schools, including supporting both "flavours" of the Norwegian language (something MS have been reluctant to do). Statskonsult, the state-owned company dealing with public management development, has actually called SkoleLinux "the only ICT solution taking the schools'resources and plans seriously".

  7. Re:This is just what open sauce needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    In the eyes of a government, which we are talking about here, the law is the law. It is to be upheld, because it is what holds society together. If the government chooses to ignore part of the law (eg patents) and not actually change that law, what is to stop them from wantonly disrespecting other things like the GPL?

    Except that there IS a rule, stated by the UN, that nations can break drug patents in the case of an emergency. So they ARE playing by the rules, although it is a little more obscure. Besides, I don't have an ETHICAL problem with what they're doing. They tried hard to keep up their free-treatment of AIDS patients program, but increasing drug costs have chewed up (nearly) their entire budget. So which is more ethical? Keep buying X amount of drugs from companies and telling HIV patients "Sorry, that was the last dose we can afford this year! Tough, dude, tough!", or saying "We tried, and we balanced the cons of pros of not treating our patients and not paying the drug companies, and figured it made more sense to not pay the drug companies."? Especially when these drug companies have drastically hiked the cost of the same drug, which is partially the reason for the lack of budget?

  8. Re:Good by archeopterix · · Score: 3, Informative
    Another high point is that when the government wants a skill set in the populace, it tends to be pushed a bit in schools. I would love to see the results of fifteen years of open source software use in schools in any country.
    Microsoft understand this. You won't believe the pressure from them to turn universities into MS training centers. There is a constant stream of invitations to free conferences for the staff. I said free? Considering the tons of gadgets dumped at the participants they are more like 'paid'. Free books and licenses of MS software for staff and students are the norm.

    Fortunately, Linux is strong where I happened to get my M.Sc. The OS-dependent subjects (Concurrent & Network programming, Operating Systems etc.) are taught on Linux. There is a .net course but it's outside the main curriculum.

  9. 1953, Chiquita in Guatemala by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Or it will be like in the case of the United Fruit Company/Chiquita in 1953 where the CIA organized the coup against the President of Guatemala for not supporting the slavery of his people by said US company. ...US bombers were also involved in bombing the Guatemalan capital city...

  10. Re:Their stance is probably a consequence of.. by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: 5, Informative

    That is not entirely correct. Brazil does have very strong software companies that build business apps; invoicing, accounts receivable/payable, supply management, tax automation and the whole nine yards. Only that software tend to be targeted at Brazilian companies mostly (Portuguese language, sometimes Spanish as an option) and to small to mid-sized businesses.

    We don't have anyone writing operating systems (out of academia, that is) and office applications, so it's natural that FOSS look appealing in those areas.

    Other than that, IT is very strong in services, support and custom apps, here, and in that realm FOSS is again a very good fit, as it allows one company to fully customize a package to suit special needs, while not being encumbered by proprietary licenses.

  11. A Link without subscription needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://news.com.com/Brazil+Free+softwares+biggest+ and+best+friend/2100-7344_3-5644737.html

  12. Good for them! But is is good for them? by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am no means a Microsoft support and I do like Linux and I try to support it when possible. But having a policy of all OSS Software is just as bad as having a policy of Every program needs to be Commercial. While Linux and other OSS application are getting better every year there are some things are just not as good as Commercial Applications, a lot of people would agree the GIMP is not quite up to Photoshop standards, or Linux Printing Services are by no means as easy to setup then Windows (Especially for smaller networks), OpenOffice and all the other OSS Office Clones still don't have a working grammar checker. I haven't yet found an OSS RAD (Rapid Application Development) tool for Linux that is as easy to use a Visual Fox Pro, or even VB. I support the method when they are looking for software to fit there needs they examine the most affordable first and see if it does what they want then go to a higher price. If they nothing does what they really want then go back down to the OSS version.

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  13. Re:More power to them by Zemran · · Score: 4, Informative

    I am in Thailand right now and I have in the pack in front of me, next to the PC, the localised versions of XP and office and they put some windows up in Thai and others up in English. I am talking from very current experience. I have not tried Japanese so I cannot argue but I know that the Thai version keeps reverting to English and I had to install Office on another machine here that had English removed and the install refused, telling me that it needed English.

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  14. Re:Summer? What do you mean? by serialXP · · Score: 2, Informative

    I live in Porto Alegre (south of Brazil) and its very cold here at winter (witch is in june here)... But in Rio de Janeiro it is almost true...

  15. Re:And the biggest thief by argent · · Score: 4, Informative

    I heard on NPR yesterday morning that they are also the biggest software thief in the world today.

    Nobody who's done business in China would believe that.

  16. Re:More power to them by rikkards · · Score: 2, Informative

    Chances are they (MS) have put more effort into the Japanese one. I didn't see one english character except for the boot up screen when I played with the Japanese localized version.

    Of course this is a perfect argument for open source as you don't need to rely on a company to add or improve the functionality of the software if it is lacking (if you know how to do it of course).

  17. Re:More power to them by Begossi · · Score: 2, Informative

    Pirated software around here is usually 10 reais (around 3.50 dollars) per CD. You can bargain for a discount for mutliple-CD packages.
    And that's true for $100 software or $5000 software. Everything's the same price (per CD) on the pirate market.

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  18. Re:And the biggest thief by ZehFernando · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not the biggest one (it's hard for everyone who lives here to believe that, since it's so easy to buy pirated software), but recent researches have shown that Asia leads on all pirate penetration stats.

  19. Re:More power to them by Nebu · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try installing Windows or Office on a machine and ignoring any text written in English. Even after you have got the OS on, when you try to install Office, if you have set the machine to Chinese (or whichever) it pops up windows in English to ask you questions

    If I install the English version of Windows XP, and the English version of Office XP, and set the localization to Japanese, then yes, what you say happens.

    But if I purchase the Japanese version of Windows XP, and the Japanese version of Office XP, all the dialog pop ups and everything is in Japanese.

    When you install English Windows XP, and set the localization to Japanese, the start button still says "start" (in English). With the Japanese version of Windows XP, no matter what localization you use, the start button has sta-to written in Katakana.