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Mac OS X Tiger Goes Gold
bonch writes "Following up yesterday's story, AppleInsider now reports that Tiger build 8A428 has been deemed the Gold Master for shipping. Sources expect an announcement of Tiger's completion sometime tomorrow." There are far better days to make a product announcement, should a company wish to be taken seriously, but it worked for Gmail!
shortage of mac minis in the coming weeks
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. - Yogi Berra
And Tiger is going to be a beautiful release. There are features in it, especially the searching and process automation, that I've been dreaming about for years. The searching technology first appeared in BeOS with its attribute-based filesystem, but the process automation is actually something that a company I worked for ten years ago tried to invent and couldn't get it working properly. When I saw it on Apple's demo page for Tiger, I basically saw exactly the same thing that we tried to do...
All I'm trying to say is that I thoroughly understand the depth of Apple's success with this software, and the technical achievement they made. This is a UNIX that can do so darn much.
They're using the codenames to make a better distinction between the upgrades. "Mac OS X" has become a brand like "Pentium" and if they just market it as 10.3 to 10.4, most people would consider it a minor update rather than an entire overhaul.
No. It's amazing considering Apple only has ~3 percent market share.
New releases of OS X generally run faster than older ones because the OS is relatively new and optimizations are keeping pace with feature adds.
The one thing you'll want is a decent amount of memory. 128 mb hasn't been enough for any previous version, and it's doubtful it'll be enough for 10.4.
I rarely criticize things I don't care about.
Will apple ever upgarde the name to mac OS 11? I know that apple OS X name is pretty much like microsoft windows, but hasn't there been enough upgrades to warrent the version name upgrade, or a better question would be how is it they even decided to upgrade the version name by 1?
Those that invent and lead the industry tend to make the headlines, as opposed to the followers and imitators.
Fat Freddy's Cat OS.
Ahh, memories. I think I'll find my "Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers" comics tonight.
Thanks.
No. It's amazing considering Apple only has ~3 percent market share.
That number is incredibly misleading. It underestimates real users since, lumped into the Microsoft share, are the majority of the Intel PCs used as Point of Sale terminals, ATMs, informatioin kiosks, etc.
It also fails to account for the fact that Mac owners tend to keep their systems for several years longer than PC users. Thus the percentage of home users of Macs is probably somewhere between %8-%12, not the oft quoted 3%.
"can you say that you can use a 6-year old PC without any siginificant upgrades and still run the latest OS and software and be productive with it?
Sure. As long as you're not married to Windows.
I rarely criticize things I don't care about.
Au contraire,
b ait but merely to describe the type of user whe're talking about here--
The number one question asked by 'the archetypical mini-buyer' - and of course the tons of other people that ask for a mini who sometimes have some similarity with this mythical person - is 'Will I get Tiger for free when I but my mini now?'
The archetypical mac-mini switcher (subset of a-mm-buyer) is not the complete computer-n00b we would all love to go out and buy a mac, only because then we might actually get to benchmarks the actual stand-by time of our mobile phones, that type of user still uses the windows pc they've had for years because they don't care about computers, don't read the articles about them in the press, skip conversations about computers in social events because they're biased to think they won't understand any of it anyway and are thereby still highly unaware of the other options out there besides using their windows 95 OSR 2 box with 16 megs of ram till death.
The typical switcher we get - I work in a big Apple Centre in the Netherlands - is the slightly geeky guy on a budget. The type that cares a bit above average about computers, never used Linux because they couldn't figure out how to install it in the amount of time they wanted to commit themselves to it and besides that just mature enough to be tempted by the idea that *it* might JustWork(TM)
-- above passage not intended as linux-is-too-difficult-for-'normal'-people-flame-
The second most important typical mini-buyer is the user that already has -at least one- mac, looking for an extra machine to fulfill some specific task(s) , or unable to resist the mac mini coolness factor and getting one while not having the faintest clue why they would need it, or to replace for instance a dying iMac they've been using as a file- and print-server on a budget or likewise
Besides that, all the linux-geeks I know either want one, already have one or don't need one since they've gotten themselves an iBook. but that's not such a large part of the people we get in our store.
All of those categories of customers actually care *a lot* about whether or not Tiger will be included with their minimac.
PS: I'm not in sales but in tech support, so I might miss a few of those potential customers..
(may read 'IMHO' wherever omitted from above text)
Although I agree with you about the quality and longevity of Apple's hardware (my dad still runs a G4 400 with an upgraded HDD as a recording studio and sees no need for a new system), nothing says you need a new windows system, either.
I'm stuck on a Celeron 700 at work. Nothing CLOSE to my preferred dev environment, I assue you. However, for the test scripts they've got me writing in vbscript, I never have any speed issues. It serves its purpose perfectly well.
The truth of old hardware is that if properly maintained it will be exactly as good as it was when you bought it.
Funny you should bring this up. I just finished -- and I mean just finished, like ten minutes ago -- a weekly column that I write. I loaned my PowerBook for a few days to someone who needed it more than I did, so I wrote it on a six-year-old iBook with a 300 MHz G3 processor and 256 MB of RAM.
This computer runs 10.3.8, and the application I used was Adobe InCopy 3.
It worked perfectly. Zero complaints. The only way I could tell the difference between the iBook and my PowerBook is the size of the screen. Of course, I wasn't running any other applications at the time; if I had been, I would have run out of RAM. But apart from that one constraint, I used it in exactly the same way I normally use my laptop, and noticed no difference in functionality or speed.
Oh, boy, do we even have to talk about how wrong that is?
Do you know what Google's statistics measure? I'll give you a hint: It's not the demographics of all computer users. And it's not the demographics of all Internet users. Hell, it's not even the demographics of all Google users.
All those stats measure is the demographics of all Google requests.
If the number is 3 percent, than that means that exactly 3 percent of all requests to the Google web servers came from browsers that self-identify as being on a Mac. What does this tell us about the entire population of computers out there in use? Zip. Zilcho.
Example: I know of a business that owns upwards of 200 Macs. They're used for graphics production and video and audio editorial. The vast majority of these Macs will never have hit Google, because they're not used for that. They're used for running Motion and After Effects and Final Cut Pro and Pro Tools and that's all. Two or three shifts a day, six days a week, 52 weeks a year. Their representation in those Google stats you quoted? None at all.
Don't look to the Google stats for information that the numbers can't give you. You'll just end up being misled.
Just so you know, the reason Apple doesn't invest very much time or effort into Java is because there's zero demand for Java client applications on the Mac. And the reason there's zero demand for it is because Java applications that are ported to the Mac have so far been done very sloppily, resulting in a bad user experience all around.
If you want Java support for the Mac, do two things. First, sign up with ADC and express your opinion. Second, start writing good Java applications for the Mac.
The typical switcher we get - I work in a big Apple Centre in the Netherlands - is the slightly geeky guy on a budget. The type that cares a bit above average about computers, never used Linux because they couldn't figure out how to install it in the amount of time they wanted to commit themselves to it and besides that just mature enough to be tempted by the idea that *it* might JustWork(TM)
/.), I'm about to switch. I want a machine that will allow my wife and I to use with sessions running simultaneously. I want mail and printing and scanning to work right. I want Bluetooth syncing to our phones and my wife's Tungsten to work. I want to be able to use my iPod, and my digital camera, and edit videos. I want it to all be integrated, and I want it to, yes, "just work".
You have a good view, but let me give you a data point. I'm a Linux sysadmin by day. My "server" at home runs Linux. My desktops at home run sort of Windows by necessity: one is for my wife, the other is my laptop that I need to use with a Centrino wireless card, and VPN for work. I know that I could "train" my wife to use Linux. I also know that I could get my finicky laptop to work. Point is, I don't want to. By the time I get home, I don't feel like it.
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I mess around with things enough at work and home. When I want to play, I have plenty of things to play with. But I want something that I don't have to think about unless I want to. I don't want to have to edit a single god damn configuration file to accomplish the above tasks. Is the Mac the right answer? I think it might be. But if it's not, that's okay. I can go back to the old way, and when I do, I'll sell the Mac for damn near what I paid for it.
I never thought I would be this way. But I've reached a time in my life where I have less patience and willingness to sacrifice free time. I also have lots more money. That's why I'm giving it a shot.
It is developers who think that Java applications run as-is who are responsible for the shitty java applications on OS X today.
It takes a handful of lines to switch to the mac menu bar (instead of window-mounted menus), but nobody does it. Java apps which 'run' on the mac are often not even tested to see how they behave.
I would never advertise my mac client software as 'java software', because users now consider that a badge of warning. If it is a good mac app, the fact that it has java code in it shouldn't even cross the user's mind.
I couldn't have said it better. Although I think it's worth making clear that what you said about the menu bar is just one example of how developers can piss off users by assuming that Java applications should be run unmodified on the Mac.
Drag and drop is a vital part of the Macintosh user interface. Java developers often neglect to implement it. Same with packaging and application metadata, application services, even the dock menu. Java developers often -- I'll go so far as to say "almost always" --completely ignore these important parts of the Mac operating environment, either blithely unaware of them or under the sadly mistake impression that users just won't miss them.
Like I said, if developers want Apple to give a shit about Java, they're going to need to start giving a shit about Apple.
Hear hear!
/. "Hack 'cause you want, not 'cause you have to." Hacking actually becomes fun again. And surely that's something quite hard to put a price on?
:)
I was in a vaguely similar boat, though I can't ever claim to have been a Linux sysadmin - certainly not outside the home anyway. All our machines at home were Windows XP, mostly self-built, and we had Linux for NAT, etc. But all the machines were a constant hassle. The only thing I can be thankful for is that this was before spyware and its ilk got really big, so I never had to deal with much of that.
Anyway, I got an iBook in 2002, after playing around on a very sexy PowerMac G4 server (it had 1.25GB RAM, which was not unimpressive at the time). Looking back now, it was quite crude - Internet Explorer for the web browser, no X11, no Quartz Extreme - but I still switched, and haven't looked back.
Granted, it's a little weird if you're coming from a Linux-centric background - each UNIX has its own ways of doing things and Darwin is no different in this respect - but you can still get down to the nitty-gritty and write your own ipfw configuration if it floats your boat. And, though Fink seems slightly stagnated of late, running KDE on your Mac is just plain cool (from a "because you can" point of view, anyway).
Keep an open mind - I know a friend of mine was a little upset at first because he couldn't start Apache with apachectl start. I was a little terse with him in reply, pointing out that Apple, champion of the GUI, could hardly expect a horde of headstrong OS9 GUI diehards to open up a Terminal to start a web server. Once I pointed him towards the Sharing tab, all was fine.
The wireless implementation is unparalleled. Having taken my first steps in the WiFi world on a Mac, it pains me to use Windows' or Linux efforts (the latter I am having particular trouble with at home). Bluetooth is beautiful - you will, I am sure, find BluePhoneElite and Salling Clicker amusing if not essential toys. iPhoto is really, really nice; iMovie HD is just totally cool...
You almost take it for granted in fact. I installed iTunes on a friend's Windows XP machine the other day, and she was almost bowled over (she has rather poor balance) by the simplicity of iTunes. I now think of it as nothing special, but to someone who has suffered under WiMP for so long, it is truly refreshing.
In the end, all the machines at home now are Macs, save for one Linux server which still does NAT, mostly for my amusement so that I can continue to hack when I want. But I really think you hit the nail on the head with this...
I mess around with things enough at work and home. When I want to play, I have plenty of things to play with. But I want something that I don't have to think about unless I want to. I don't want to have to edit a single god damn configuration file to accomplish the above tasks.
I think I can sum it up succinctly with a line that is sure to appeal to at least the more mature and competent (i.e. less l33t t33n h4x0r) type that reads
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Difference between Automator and your example is that Automator is something my wife could use. Your example might as well be written in hebrew.
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For my wife it would be. She would be infinitely more productive with Automator than with Bash-programming
I beg to differ. With tools like Automator they would get instant visual cues as to what the system does. The system would just make sense. They just set each step accordingly, by choosing from drop-down boxes (with descripitve names of apps and actions) and the like, and it does the rest. It even has nice arrows point that "when this is done, I will move on to this step here". But let's look at your example:
wget -nd -r -l 1 -A jpg http://somehost.com/ [somehost.com] zip out.zip *.jpg
Huh? What is "wget"? What the hell are -nd -r -l 1 -A? How do those tell the user what it's doing? The user would have to spend time going through obscure manuals. With Automator, they could simply tell the system "fetch images from this website, and make an archive out of them".
Of course, if you have the commands memorized, then typing that command is propably faster than doing the same with Automator. But ask regural user who does NOT have that knowledge to do the same with Bash and with Automator. Which will be faster? Which of them will he rather use? If you answer "Bash", you are deluding yourself.
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Don't steal what little youth I have left.
Trust me, Dude, no one is thinking "man, I wonder if that guy is 18".
Soon those birthdays zip by like updates to OS X...
IANAL, but I've seen actors play them on TV