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Burn Grass, Get Green Biofuel

Roland Piquepaille writes "Do you want to use an economical and environmentally friendly biofuel? Just grow grass. Burning grass pellets will produce an energy-efficient biofuel, according to Jerry Cherney, a professor of agriculture at Cornell University. In this news release, 'Grass as Fuel,' he says "Burning grass pellets makes sense; after all, it takes 70 days to grow a crop of grass for pellets, but it takes 70 million years to make fossil fuels." Unfortunately, there is nothing like a grass political lobby in Washington, so he might not be heard. But with current oil prices, more and more people will be tempted to use cheaper -- and cleaner -- sources of energy. This overview contains many more details and references about this environmentally friendly biofuel made from grass."

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  1. Roland Piquepaille by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another Roland Piquepaille story
    Here is what he wrote if your interested:

    samedi 2 avril 2005

    Burn Grass, Get Green Biofuel

    Do you want to use an economical and environmentally friendly biofuel? Just grow grass. Burning grass pellets will produce an energy-efficient biofuel, according to Jerry Cherney, a professor of agriculture at Cornell University. In this news release, "Grass as Fuel," he says "Burning grass pellets makes sense; after all, it takes 70 days to grow a crop of grass for pellets, but it takes 70 million years to make fossil fuels." Unfortunately, there is anything like a grass political lobby in Washington, so he might not be heard. But with current oil prices, more and more people will be tempted to use cheaper -- and cleaner -- sources of energy. Read more...

    Here is the introduction of the Cornell University news release.
    Grow grass, not for fun but for fuel. Burning grass for energy has been a well-accepted technology in Europe for decades. But not in the United States.
    Yet burning grass pellets as a biofuel is economical, energy-efficient, environmentally friendly and sustainable, says a Cornell University forage crop expert.
    This alternative fuel easily could be produced and pelleted by farmers and burned in modified stoves built to burn wood pellets or corn, says Jerry Cherney, the E.V. Baker Professor of Agriculture. Burning grass pellets hasn't caught on in the United States, however, Cherney says, primarily because Washington has made no effort to support the technology with subsidies or research dollars.
    Why is it important for environment?
    Burning grass pellets makes sense; after all, it takes 70 days to grow a crop of grass for pellets, but it takes 70 million years to make fossil fuels," says Cherney, who notes that a grass-for-fuel crop could help supplement farmers' incomes.
    Cherney points out that grass biofuel pellets are much better for the environment because they emit up to 90 percent less greenhouse gases than oil, coal and natural gas do. Furthermore, he says, grass is perennial, does not require fertilization and can be grown on marginal farmland.
    Cherney recently presented his conclusions about grass biofuel at the Greenhouse Gases & Carbon Sequestration in Agriculture and Forestry conference, held March 21-24 in Baltimore.
    You can find the abstract of his talk, "Grass Bioenergy in the Northeastern USA," on this page. Just scroll a little bit or search for Cherney on the page.
    If you're interested in this subject, here is a link to the July 2004 issue of the "Dairy & Field Crops digest" (PDF format, 12 pages, 728KB). The article "Grass Management for Forage or Biofuel?" appears on pages 7 and 8.
    In this article, Cherney argues that "grass is converted to useable heat at over 80% efficiency, with an energy output:input ratio exceeding 10:1, compared to other bioenergy sources with typicalsystem energy output:input ratios around 1:1."
    The cost-effectiveness of pelletized grass as a fuel results from:

    * efficient use of low cost marginal farmland for solar energy collection
    * minimal fossil fuel input use in field production and energy conversion
    * minimal biomass quality upgrading which limits energy loss from the feedstock
    * efficient combustion in advanced yet modestly priced and simple to use devices
    * replacement of expensive high-grade energyforms in space and water heating

    Cherney is convincing, but it's hard to help him while living in Paris.

    Sources: Cornell University News Service, March 31, 2005; and various websites

  2. Re:Obvious marijuana jokes aside... by istewart · · Score: 4, Informative

    The way I get it, it's a zero-emissions fuel in that it's a closed carbon cycle. The CO2 from burning the plant or plant derivative will be consumed and used by another plant. This is assuming that no petroleum-based fertilizers, pesticides, etc. are used, which would release additional carbon byproducts that were locked beneath the ground before.

  3. Re:Obvious marijuana jokes aside... by rewinn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Great question. According to the article

    ... grass biofuel pellets are much better for the environment because they emit up to 90 percent less greenhouse gases than oil, coal and natural gas do. ..."

    So while grass may not be perfect, it is 90% better than what we've got, from a carbon-release standpoint.

    Another consideration is that the carbon emitted from burning grass is carbon that the grass took out of our atmosphere while growing, so there would be no net increase in atmospheric carbon from its use. In contrast, carbon released by fossil fuels hasn't been in our atmosphere for millions of years, which is why re-releasing it into our atmosphere is problematic.

  4. Re:Conserve fuel for what we NEED it for. by One+Div+Zero · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't worry. Plastics aren't a problem anymore either.

    Now you can make plastic from oranges.
    Cornell has you covered once again

    There's just fewer jokes about smoking oranges...

  5. Recently-Stored Carbon vs. Dinosaur Juice by billstewart · · Score: 4, Informative
    There are two different major issues with emissions - carbon dioxide and Nasty Stuff (particulates, nitrogen and sulfur oxides, etc.). The emissions problems with Nasty Stuff are pretty similar, and some materials are cleaner or dirty than others, and may be easier or harder to clean up. It's generally easier to clean up power plant emissions than car/truck emissions, because you have more technical choices, aren't limited by weight, can use water, etc. (Hmmm... cleaning grass smoke by bubbling through water... might be some future to that one...)

    Carbon Dioxide emissions are really different, because the problem is greenhouse heating caused by increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Burning oil and coal takes carbon that's been in the ground for a long time and pumps it into the atmosphere, which is a problem. But growing grass or trees for fuel takes carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere, using solar energy and chlorophyll to split it up into various plant compounds, so any carbon dioxide emissions you get from burning the grass are just moving around carbon dioxide you took out of the atmosphere last growing season, so it's no problem.

    ObDoperReference: Hemp is a really good grass for applications like this. It grows fast, doesn't need pesticides, you can do useful things with the seeds, the fiber can be used for cloth if you don't feel like burning it, and as a bonus you get a bunch of flowers that you can divert to other applications.

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    1. Re:Recently-Stored Carbon vs. Dinosaur Juice by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      The oil of the plant is particularly useful... you can make plastic out of it, or diesel fuel.

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  6. E85 fuel by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Informative

    E85 fuel will be the perfect for the migration. Current cars that are "fuel flex" will take any mixure of gasoline and E-85 and wont be a bother to the driver or cause for worry. In fact, E-85 is nothing but 15% gas and 85% ethanol hence it's name.

    Though only a select few cars are certified to use E-85, basically any car can run the stuff provider you have higher flow fuel injectors, fuel lines and tank that wont corrode, different O2 sensors, and a modified fuel map in the ECU. Not that hard of a conversion, but it can be done for around 2 to 3 grand I would imagine. And you can be sure there will be a huge aftermarket for these conversions once gas gets very expensive.

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  7. Re:70 days to grow a crop of grass? by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Informative

    > Don't alfalfa fields get 2 or 3 cuttings minimum
    > per season?

    Depends on the climate, among other things. Here in Wisconsin I get three cuttings a year of my mixed alfalfa/brome, but I am trying for an optimum combination of nutrition for horses, tonnage, and stand life. Many of my neighbor dairy farmers cut their pure alfalfa every 28 days. This gives them higher protein at the price of slightly lower tonnage and shorter stand life. If I was growing hay for fuel I would be trying to maximize dry weight without concern for nutritional value and would choose what to plant and how to harvest it on that basis.

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  8. Biomass entropy by papastout · · Score: 2, Informative
    Consulting the rulebook on thermodynamics: rule #2= there is always loss. Bearing that in mind the idea of grass as biomass makes a certain amount of sense when you have monstrous lawns to clip. This would take a lot of grass to get a little useable fuel. The idea is to get a high output for a minimal input, and most any biomass will give some amount of gas when heated in a pyrolysis chamber.

    Hemp (yes, cannabis) is absolutely the best plant for this application, and without peer in the overall output of biomass gasses. Jack Herer wrote the book on hemp as a source of biomass fuel and offers a $100,000 chllenge to prove him wrong!

    Grass for fuel! yeah, but not that kind, man!

  9. Re:Obvious marijuana jokes aside... by gwydion04 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've never heard of a plant absorbing organic material from the ground, unless you consider parasitic species such as heather and mistletoe that get glucose from their host plants (glucose, not simple carbon). I believe that a sessile organism that takes organic material from the ground as its main source of food can be described as a "fungus."

    In fact, this is why carbon 14 dating works - because the organic carbon present in all known lifeforms comes from CO2, which was converted to a fuel source by autotrophic plants. And on that note, I bid you all goodnight :).

  10. Re:No net CO2 emissions from burning grass by otis+wildflower · · Score: 2, Informative

    Pure biodiesel will corrode rubber fuel lines and gaskets.

    Older diesels (like mine) would need inorganic fuel lines and gaskets to go B100. Of course, I can't even find B20 in my neck of the woods yet :/

    Just sayin'.

  11. Re:Sounds expensive... by mikeb39 · · Score: 3, Informative

    America, most likely. Marijuana can cost up to $40USD/gram in certain cities, and the quality is often less then decent.

    In my home and native land however, the price for a Canadian citizen (American tourists sadly often get absolutly raped on prices when they come to visit) is just about $6-7USD/gram across the whole country. Prices drop exponentially for larger amounts, such as 1/4 of an ounce (7.5 grams if I remember right) will go for about $40-50(max)USD to a local. Quality in the main provinces is almost always excellent, and it's not terrible in our middle farmey ones either.

    The more you know... the higher you'll go? ;)

  12. Re:Another use for Grass... by whimsy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Enzymes are problematic because they're picky; the reason your body keeps its temperature so closely regulated (and a 5-10F/3-6C rise or fall in body temperature is so hugely significant) is because most enzymes care. A lot. Some, obviously, don't care so much if you bang on em a bit - plants', reptiles', and probably your termites. They still require reasonably controlled conditions pH-wise, because if that changes too much, your enzyme will fold up and crumple into something else entirely, and it won't work anymore. I am not personally that familiar with amylases, but just about any chemical reaction works much better in a solution, or in the gas-phase. Chewing away at a clump of fiber is tough.

    As for sulfuric acid, well, that's pretty rough too. First of all, it's nasty stuff, and I don't think just anyone should be handling it on a daily basis. I know when I use it, I never slip on that gloves-and-goggles rule. Second, it's got some healthy energy requirements to manufacture - the process involves pressures of 2atm and temperatures of about 400C. Not to say it's impossible though, it's just got its own problems.

    Ok, say you have your sugar monomer or dimer (sucrose, fructose, or glucose). We need to make it into alcohol. The easiest, and cheapest way, is yeast. You can probably get up to 15% with fancy osmotolerant yeasts. You probably won't do too much better with enzymes. Ain't gonna burn. So we're looking at distillation, which has its own substantial energy requirements. Not to say we can't do it, but it's trickier than just turning our garbage into ethanol- doing it with corn and sugarcane is hard enough.

  13. "closed carbon cycle" != zero emissions by js7a · · Score: 1, Informative
    There is no ecological difference between CO2 from fossil fuel combustion and CO2 from renewable or sustainable plant matter combustion. Both trap the same amount of solar energy in the troposphere. Both are captured equivalently by growing plants.

    Wind power is the only actual mitigation of increases in greenhouse gasses.

    1. Re:"closed carbon cycle" != zero emissions by PeterM · · Score: 4, Informative
      To be more accurate, the idea that oil comes from 70 million year old organic matter is pretty much dead is completely false and discredited. Oil is sourced from Kerogen, an organic rich matter enbedded in source rock that undergoes a set of slow reactions in response to increasing temperature and pressure resulting from burial. This can ben conclusively proven by:
      1. The existance of "biomarkers", organic molecules found within oil with clear biological precursors (e.g., pristane and phytane are derived from chlorophyll)
      2. The fact that you can put kerogen in a tube in a lab, heat it, squeeze it, and get oil out
      3. The utter, utter failure and wasted $$$ of fools who drill in non-organic rich areas

      Sorry for the rant, but some statements are just stupid. More information can be found at Woods Hole Organic Geochemistry group ( http://dynatog.whoi.edu/ ), at the Newcastle U site ( http://nrg.ncl.ac.uk ) or on wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_geochemistry )

    2. Re:"closed carbon cycle" != zero emissions by olman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry, but DU isn't nuclear waste.. And neither it's really radioactive. But it's about as healthy as asbestos to breathe.

    3. Re:"closed carbon cycle" != zero emissions by serutan · · Score: 2, Informative

      For those interested here's an excellent but long dry 1993 paper from the USGS that gives arguments on both sides of the biogenic/abiogenic debate.

      More recently I read that the abiogenic theory is quietly but not publicly accepted by most scientists involved, because the leading biogenesis adherents are highly influential. The phrase that stuck in my mind was that abiogenesis is just "waiting for a few more obituaries," or words to that effect. I tried to find that article but no luck.

      Anyway here are the key arguments according to the USGS: (sorry for the long quote). Whichever side you believe, the issue has been debated for many years by many experts, so dismissing either argument as "just stupid" is just arrogantly ignorant.

      In favor of the biogenic origin of petroleum, the following four observations have been advanced:

      (1) Petroleum contains groups of molecules which are clearly identified as the breakdown products of complex, but common, organic molecules that occur in plants, and that could not have been built up in a non-biological process.

      (2) Petroleum frequently shows the phenomenon of optical activity, i.e. a rotation of the plane of polarization when polarized light is passed through it. This implies that molecules which can have either a right-handed or a left-handed symmetry are not equally represented, but that one symmetry is preferred. This is normally a characteristic of biological materials and absent in fluids of non-biological origin.

      (3) Some petroleums show a clear preference for molecules with an odd number of carbon atoms over those with an even number. Such an odd-even effect can be understood as arising from the breakdown of a class of molecules that are common in biological substances, and may be difficult to account for in other ways.

      (4) Petroleum is mostly found in sedimentary deposits and only rarely in the primary rocks of the crust below; even among the sediment, it favors those that are geologically young. In many cases such sediment appears to be rich in carbonaceous materials that were interpreted as of biological origin, and as source material for the petroleum deposit.

      On the other side of the argument, in favor of an origin from deeply buried materials incorporated in the Earth when it formed, the following observations have been cited:

      (1) Petroleum and methane are found frequently in geographic patterns of long lines or arcs, which are related more to deep-seated large-scale structural features of the crust, than to the smaller scale patchwork of the sedimentary deposits.

      (2) Hydrocarbon-rich areas tend to be hydrocarbon-rich at many different levels, corresponding to quite different geological epochs, and extending down to the crystalline basement that underlies the sediment. An invasion of an area by hydrocarbon fluids from below could better account for this than the chance of successive deposition.

      (3) Some petroleums from deeper and hotter levels lack almost completely the biological evidence . Optical activity and the odd-even carbon number effect are sometimes totally absent, and it would be difficult to suppose that such a thorough destruction of the biological molecules had occurred as would be required to account for this, yet leaving the bulk substance quite similar to other crude oils.

      (4) Methane is found in many locations where a biogenic origin is improbable or where biological deposits seem inadequate: in great ocean rifts in the absence of any substantial sediments; in fissures in igneous and metamorphic rocks, even at great depth; in active volcanic regions, even where there is a minimum of sediments; and there are massive amounts of methane hydrates (methane-water ice combinations) in permafrost and ocean deposits, where it is doubtful that an adequate quantity and distribution of biological source material is present.

      (5) The hydrocarbon deposits of a large area often show common chemical o

  14. Re:Obvious marijuana jokes aside... by Frumious+Wombat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Strangely enough, the carbon-cycle in plants is optimzed to use atmospheric CO2 as the carbon source, so they don't get much, if any, from the ground. From the ground, they tend to get nitrogen compounds, after bacteria have cracked N2 into usable nitrates and nitrites.

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  15. No grass lobby? by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unfortunately, there is anything like a grass political lobby in Washington

    You can't ignore this grass lobby!
  16. Re:Another reason it won't happen. by utlemming · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you really want grass pellets, just go on down to your local nursery. If the guy running the chemicals/fertilizers/grass seed department has any clue as to what is available he could order some in for you. I have had several vendars pitch grass pellets as a mulch for grass seed. The only problem is that it is expensive. To mulch about 30 sq feet cost is close to $10. The other problem that I see is that there are issues with ferilization. Grass is brutal on the requirements of nitrogen. That is why all the home-owning Slashdotters that want a nice lawn are always fertilizing. In a commercial setting, you had better believe that people are going to fertilize -- the more nitrogen that is applied to the ground the faster the grass will grow (to a point). And fertilizer for grass, that is quality, anyway, is not cheap. You could always through some ammonia sulfate (21-0-0) or urea down but you run the risk of burning the hell out of it in the middle of the summer. So that means that you are either playing with a foliar feeder, which doesn't promote deep root growth, or your using CDU, IBDU, or MethEX fertilizer. The USDA recommends as the minium on turf 3.5 lbs/1,000/per year. You could let it go with out fertilizing, but then you run the risk of a diminishing return on the yield/sq foot. The the other problem is that he was talking about a periannial grasses. Thats a nice idea. But the bigger problem is that even though grasses are periannials, there are bigger problems. If you go with a fescue or a rye grass they end up thinning out over time. A kentucky blue has the ability to creap, but the fertilizer requirement is very high. He meantioned using an orchard grass. Orchard grasses are aggressive in nature, but they are a clumping grass. Grasses will reseed if you let them, but then again, it requires fertilizer in order to get the grass to preform well and to germinate the seed. You also have major problems with soil pH. In most areas the soil is either too acidic or way to alkaline. Very few areas of the country have soil that is nice to grass. So I guess the point of this rant is that the article doesn't explore the horticultural issues. Perhaps I am just skeptical, but grass is not an easy, forget about it for 70 days solution. Turf grass or for that matter, fields of grass does not accure naturally in nature. If it is unmaintained it will go wild in a matter of years -- if you want to market Weed Pellets, then it will be low maintance. The cost of having turf fields is enourmous. That is why turf sod (the American meaning of sod) is so expensive.

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  17. Re:Less 'greenhouse gasses?' Pfft... by Tekgno · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think it is more of a matter of how burning grass or any bio-fuel for that matter fits in with the carbon cycle. Burning of oil, coal and natural gas releases carbon that has been locked up underground for millions of years as opposed to grass which collects it from the air and thus isn't adding any more to current amounts.

  18. Re:Obvious marijuana jokes aside... by deimtee · · Score: 2, Informative

    All this talk of zero emissions conveniently forgets fertiliser (and perhaps pesticides and herbicides) that will also have to be deployed.

    Why on earth would you use herbicides?! You want the grass to grow, and if a few weeds get in and grow better than the grass then you pelletize and burn them instead. It's all plant matter, and who really cares what plant it was.
    Also, if you RTFA, you would see that they advocate cutting the grass and then leaving it lay there for the minerals to leach back into the soil, so this type of cultivation is very low impact.

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  19. Diesels... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 3, Informative
    ... can run on damn near any oil, as long as it's runny enough to go through the injectors. Some types of oil may attack the rubber seals in the injector pump though - be careful.


    I have successfully run a 1988 Citroen CX 25DTR on normal diesel fuel, heating oil, jet fuel, waste veg oil, waste hydraulic oil, and odd mixtures of these things. With the waste veg oil there was no smoke at all from the exhaust even under very heavy load at full power - and only a slight smell from the exhaust. It does *not* smell like greasy chips!

  20. Re:Another reason it won't happen. by marcosdumay · · Score: 2, Informative

    almost all ammonium nitrate is produced directly from natural gas. so it would really just be converting petroleum to biofuel, which doesn't make sense,

    If you RTFA, you will se that the input:output ratio of that is 1:10. So, it is more like converting a kilogram of gas into 10, what makes a lot of sense.

    if the worry is running out of petroleum, the current common sense best solution is nuclear power, but common sense rarely prevails when discussing nuclear energy. replacing petroleum with renewable energy sources is a pipe dream.

    I guess you didn't realize that this is a nuclear power plant. Just the reactor is very far away...

    Oh, and remember that your keyboard have a shift key, try using it next time.