This seems to be pretty close to admitting that their senior execs have done things that would cause public outrage.
Seems like a smarter strategy would have been just to shut up completely about it until seeing what these leaks actually contain.
But, I suppose if you know beyond a doubt you will be proven guilty and held to account for something, you might as well prepare for it.
Paypal knows that, but paypal doesn't care. They don't care at all about PR, because they know (or believe) that their massive ebay base is so unshakable that "a few bad apples" can just be ignored.
I don't think you get it. I'm pointing out that once again they demonstrate themselves to be just a few levels above street gangsters. What's the issue?
Sweet shit! You realize your entire shopping list could be done for much, much less by building one yourself? I'm assuming you went with a "enterprise" product like this one: link which is, as you said, just a pair of TV's plugged into the vidconf unit with a camera. Go look up the prices of the individual components, get a single videoconference unit like this: link (though Polycom's cheaper and does pretty well all the same stuff, it just has a yuckier interface and isnt quite so pretty looking.) and put it all together on a cart. If it's for a vidconf room, buy projectors. Projectors are a hell of alot cheaper then plasma, and you can make the "screen" as big as you want!
So, build it yourself, it's not going to be quite as pretty (but it doesn't need to be ugly), but does management want to pay $30,000-40,000 extra just to have a snazzy "boardroom" unit?
ps. industry secret-it's essentially the same vidconf unit in the $50,000 boardroom dual plasma system as in the box with a camera on it you put on your desk, usually just with better multipoint ability and perhaps a few software management features. There's a reason the $900 desktop unit can call the $50,000 one and work just fine with the same image quality as if that $50,000 system was calling another.
America, most likely. Marijuana can cost up to $40USD/gram in certain cities, and the quality is often less then decent.
In my home and native land however, the price for a Canadian citizen (American tourists sadly often get absolutly raped on prices when they come to visit) is just about $6-7USD/gram across the whole country. Prices drop exponentially for larger amounts, such as 1/4 of an ounce (7.5 grams if I remember right) will go for about $40-50(max)USD to a local. Quality in the main provinces is almost always excellent, and it's not terrible in our middle farmey ones either.
You are clearly not an artist. I know it's immoral not to pay for it, but I do not have the money to do so, and I'd rather be immoral and enjoy my hobby then to not. If I had all the money in the world, of course I'd pay for all my software.
And yet you Americans seem to keep letting your bought off politicians pass bills like the DMCA. Don't represent your wishes? Then do something about it. What really worrys me, is that they truly do represent the misled views of most of your nation. It's just not that obvious on Slash, because, well... I think our educated, open-minded, tech bias is pretty obvious.
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Shut up. Massively illegal? They really have made you Americans begin to forget your own rights. There's not a damn illegal thing about hacking your xbox, it's a piece of hardware that you buy and bring into your own home. If you want to soak it in beer, or dress it up and put makeup on it, that's your call. It's a physical thing and you own it, and you can do whatever you want to it. Would Microsoft like it to be illegal? Hell yes! Fortunatly some of your politicans seem to have not yet been bought, and that hasn't happened yet.
Now, downloading xbox games from the internet, illegal? That's a bit of a grey zone, but is much more clearly on the frowned upon side of the law, and could certainly be considered immoral. Hacking an xbox isn't only for that though, and that's certainly not why I hacked mine. Google for some of the programs you can run with a hacked xbox, it's really amazing, everything from web browsers, to linux, to media center.
You don't know shit. What about us non-pros who want to do pro-level work? Elements is pure junk, and lacks the features I need to get my work up to "pro" levels. I'm a student, and don't even have enough for a 6-pack of beer right now, but I've got my camera, and I've got the tools (Photoshop CS, and many other "pro" tools that cost several hundreds of dollars) to process my images properly, and that's what lets me do real photography, one of the greatest joys in my life.
Ah, but somebodys always going to take that small fish market, as the demands there. It's an inevitable cycle of fun, young naieve techhead starts his own home support business, does it for a couple months, realizes it's pure hell for all the reasons already listed above, moves on to working for a real business, or just leaves support work all together. Then the next young naieve techhead notices there's a real market for home support in his area...
For those poor uninitiated souls, this funny is a reference to Arthur C. Clarke's 2010: Odyssey Two. A superior alien intelligence increases the weight of Jupiter to cause it to collapse into a star to speed the evolution of intelligent life on its moon Europa.
A really, really good book. The space odyssey series is essential reading for any fan of science fiction. Particularly interesting with all Clarke's works are noting how many of his fictional technological creations have come to exist in one form or another today.
That's entirely the wrong attitude, and one that makes wardrivers and wireless enthousiasts cringe to hear it. It's akin to saying, "he left his car unlocked, so I took it and drove it around. It's his fault for not locking the door."
The justification behind using default network ones is both moral (from our standpoint) and legal. Wireless networks are broadcast in the public band, anyone can listen. It's against the law to break encryption to get onto a network, just as it's against the law to decode encrypted army messages, but it's entirely okay to listen to FM radio wherever and whenever you want. That's what people with "default" access point are doing, publicly broadcasting something anyone has the right to "listen" to.
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This seems to be pretty close to admitting that their senior execs have done things that would cause public outrage. Seems like a smarter strategy would have been just to shut up completely about it until seeing what these leaks actually contain. But, I suppose if you know beyond a doubt you will be proven guilty and held to account for something, you might as well prepare for it.
Paypal knows that, but paypal doesn't care. They don't care at all about PR, because they know (or believe) that their massive ebay base is so unshakable that "a few bad apples" can just be ignored.
Did America actually start standing up for their citizens rights?
Yeah, it's a uglier hacked up version, but look at the features it's got. The search bar in the top right reminds me of something...
*nod*
I don't think you get it. I'm pointing out that once again they demonstrate themselves to be just a few levels above street gangsters. What's the issue?
When I shake my head at the screen and am reminded once again...
These guys (the **AA's) are a bunch of thugs.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on here... What's this non disclosure list? If you specificly ask for it you get to have your information protected? Wtf?
Hey, easy on somethingawful, we've got some pretty big nerds over there too. (Like me for one.)
Can we hate ebaumsworld instead?
Sweet shit! You realize your entire shopping list could be done for much, much less by building one yourself? I'm assuming you went with a "enterprise" product like this one: link which is, as you said, just a pair of TV's plugged into the vidconf unit with a camera. Go look up the prices of the individual components, get a single videoconference unit like this: link (though Polycom's cheaper and does pretty well all the same stuff, it just has a yuckier interface and isnt quite so pretty looking.) and put it all together on a cart. If it's for a vidconf room, buy projectors. Projectors are a hell of alot cheaper then plasma, and you can make the "screen" as big as you want!
So, build it yourself, it's not going to be quite as pretty (but it doesn't need to be ugly), but does management want to pay $30,000-40,000 extra just to have a snazzy "boardroom" unit?
ps. industry secret-it's essentially the same vidconf unit in the $50,000 boardroom dual plasma system as in the box with a camera on it you put on your desk, usually just with better multipoint ability and perhaps a few software management features. There's a reason the $900 desktop unit can call the $50,000 one and work just fine with the same image quality as if that $50,000 system was calling another.
Ring ring!
ps. ewww.
America, most likely. Marijuana can cost up to $40USD/gram in certain cities, and the quality is often less then decent.
;)
In my home and native land however, the price for a Canadian citizen (American tourists sadly often get absolutly raped on prices when they come to visit) is just about $6-7USD/gram across the whole country. Prices drop exponentially for larger amounts, such as 1/4 of an ounce (7.5 grams if I remember right) will go for about $40-50(max)USD to a local. Quality in the main provinces is almost always excellent, and it's not terrible in our middle farmey ones either.
The more you know... the higher you'll go?
Aggg! Oh god help! My eyes are stuck this way, I can't see shit, I keep falling down! Send help!
In Hull, Quebec, the drinking age is 18 instead of 19 like it is in most places in Canada, and I went to a strip club. It was great.
you still need some media to transfer the original data. the CD will remain.
Perhaps you haven't noticed these growing new trends.
You are clearly not an artist. I know it's immoral not to pay for it, but I do not have the money to do so, and I'd rather be immoral and enjoy my hobby then to not. If I had all the money in the world, of course I'd pay for all my software.
And yet you Americans seem to keep letting your bought off politicians pass bills like the DMCA. Don't represent your wishes? Then do something about it. What really worrys me, is that they truly do represent the misled views of most of your nation. It's just not that obvious on Slash, because, well... I think our educated, open-minded, tech bias is pretty obvious.
Shut up. Massively illegal? They really have made you Americans begin to forget your own rights. There's not a damn illegal thing about hacking your xbox, it's a piece of hardware that you buy and bring into your own home. If you want to soak it in beer, or dress it up and put makeup on it, that's your call. It's a physical thing and you own it, and you can do whatever you want to it. Would Microsoft like it to be illegal? Hell yes! Fortunatly some of your politicans seem to have not yet been bought, and that hasn't happened yet.
Now, downloading xbox games from the internet, illegal? That's a bit of a grey zone, but is much more clearly on the frowned upon side of the law, and could certainly be considered immoral. Hacking an xbox isn't only for that though, and that's certainly not why I hacked mine. Google for some of the programs you can run with a hacked xbox, it's really amazing, everything from web browsers, to linux, to media center.
You don't know shit. What about us non-pros who want to do pro-level work? Elements is pure junk, and lacks the features I need to get my work up to "pro" levels. I'm a student, and don't even have enough for a 6-pack of beer right now, but I've got my camera, and I've got the tools (Photoshop CS, and many other "pro" tools that cost several hundreds of dollars) to process my images properly, and that's what lets me do real photography, one of the greatest joys in my life.
Can't believe nobodys mentioned this yet...
What are these poor folks going to do?
Steve Jobs certainly had a flair for the dramatic. Bit of a cutie too. Is that bad?
Ah, but somebodys always going to take that small fish market, as the demands there. It's an inevitable cycle of fun, young naieve techhead starts his own home support business, does it for a couple months, realizes it's pure hell for all the reasons already listed above, moves on to working for a real business, or just leaves support work all together. Then the next young naieve techhead notices there's a real market for home support in his area...
Aye, I always mixed that up back in school. Good catch. :D
For those poor uninitiated souls, this funny is a reference to Arthur C. Clarke's 2010: Odyssey Two. A superior alien intelligence increases the weight of Jupiter to cause it to collapse into a star to speed the evolution of intelligent life on its moon Europa.
A really, really good book. The space odyssey series is essential reading for any fan of science fiction. Particularly interesting with all Clarke's works are noting how many of his fictional technological creations have come to exist in one form or another today.
That's entirely the wrong attitude, and one that makes wardrivers and wireless enthousiasts cringe to hear it. It's akin to saying, "he left his car unlocked, so I took it and drove it around. It's his fault for not locking the door."
The justification behind using default network ones is both moral (from our standpoint) and legal. Wireless networks are broadcast in the public band, anyone can listen. It's against the law to break encryption to get onto a network, just as it's against the law to decode encrypted army messages, but it's entirely okay to listen to FM radio wherever and whenever you want. That's what people with "default" access point are doing, publicly broadcasting something anyone has the right to "listen" to.