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Google Experiments with Video Blogging
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has an article about Google's plans to start a video service that sounds similar to Picasa. Excerpt: 'While there's no formal announcement yet, Google co-founder Larry Page said Monday that the well-known search engine concern would soon let the general public upload self-produced videos to Google's servers, partly in an effort to learn more about how to more efficiently search and display information about video-based data.'"
First Google Image Search, now this! Man, google is just your everyday pr0n peddler... hehehe... Upload videos! HEH!
Excuse me, I don't mean to impose, but I am the ocean
Google waved a single hand and created the porn blog. They saw what they had made and exclaimed, "This is good."
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"in an effort to learn more about how to more efficiently search and display information about video-based data."
Is a VCR really so hard to operate?
I guess this is how Google is going to get into the porn business.
Seriously, though -- when you're inviting people to upload a lot of something, how do you keep tabs on it? They are likely studying that as part of the experiment, but it would be great to see some sort of publically-announced result.
Of course it's unlikely to happen, but a guy can dream.
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I'll be impressed when Google can differentiate two trees swinging in the wind and two porn stars swinging.
Rock that crushes, Paper & Scissors that don't matter.
"Google co-founder Larry Page said Monday that the well-known search engine concern would soon let the general public upload self-produced videos to Google's servers" ... we shall call it... USENET!!
"Derp de derp."
For the majority of the pr0n sites out there? I know Googling is much easier (and cheaper).
Three words: Goatse video blog.
The potential abuse of this service could be immense.
Why doesn't it surprise me that the first posts are about pr0n?
"ugly am I!"
When 900 years old YOU are, look as good you will not.
"Derp de derp."
I'd really prefer they host and search audio. Would be so much more useful.
I hope Katzenberg and myself aren't the only ones who hear "home-video" and immediately think of porn.
At least my IRC days of !find [insert porn site] are over...
You Searched for: "Teen angst". 12087234972 results...
You Searched for: "Paris Hilton Remake". 18723972 results
You Searched for: "Nude at PC in Parent's Basement" 109232 results. First result http://slashdot.org 'News for Nerds. Stuff that matters.'
Just as I thought...
It doesn't look like its going to be permanent...stick with ourmedia for now
You could all see the real me, you'ed all be to scared though! ugly am I!
:-)
Aw, now honey... you know that just isn't true. You're not ugly, you're just a little... original.
Love,
Mommy
Hmm, that does jive with Gore's new TV network: http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/04/news/newsmakers/go re_tv.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes
Do you think that when you upload the video clips that you'll have to input some information about the video in order to allow it to be searched or will google tap into the vast resources of it's server farm and try to run a speech to text app and record data themselves?
I don't really know that text to speech would be a feasible option to catalog the audio contents of a file, but it would be interesting if they could implement some type of automatic content cataloging system. I suppose that if this is just going to be for video blogging that it's really not as interesting as I had first thougt, but google does always seem to try and advance what is possible.
Even just being able to post video for the world to see presents us with an interesting opportunity, but I'd love if there were something more behind this.
Those who know, do not speak. Those who speak, do not know. ~Lao Tzu
They've formed some kind of partnership with a new cable TV channel: http://abcnews.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=6410 91, in addition to video.google.com.
... I think this could be a really fantastic experience. I'm looking forward to a much greater breadth of TV viewing.""
From the article:
"The channel also has established a partnership with the Google search engine, which will provide twice-an-hour updates on viewers' top Internet searches. Sergey Brin, the 31-year old co-founder of Google, praised the channel as an effective way to distribute video in a way that frees it from the limited bandwidth and other technological challenges that has kept it from being widely available on the Web.
"The one remaining area where it's been hard as both a contributor and as viewer of user-driven content is video," Brin said. "Given that Current has taken on this challenge
I hope they try to make the system more robust before adding resource hogging features. Note the message from status.blogger.com just today:
Monday, April 04, 2005
Some users may be experiencing an unexpected Blogger outage right now; we're looking into it and will post updated info soon. Thanks for your patience.
Posted by Eric at 10:26
If the thing is routinely failing with plain text, which it is, how is it going to work with video? - rhetorical question.
Woot community access TV for the internet!
This is awesome, let me get my shirt on!
If you don't know what AltaVista is (was), get off my lawn.
We really don't need to see the hideous nerds that we are!
Are they going to be using image recognition or just a boring metadata search of the video? If it's metadata , what would be stopping me from saying this video of a woman blowing a horse is just an educational video on animals or an episode of the simpsons? I wonder what kind of powerful algorithms are brewing behind their doors to tell the difference between a penis and a hot dog
...to decode some of the webcam pr0n out there.
Why don't they add a digital clock.... That's the classic way to needlessly re-invent something.
I suggest you read Slashdot
I envision pages upon pages of ballsacks and fruitbones.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
you'll be leaving the pants off i bet.
sum.zero
I'm just waiting for the Google announcement: "Store your hard drive online" (and the resulting disclaimer when 10 million people suddenly have access to all that private data you thought was encrypted).
Sanity is like a condom: rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
For those readers who remember the early days of Xerox, when the Palo Alto facility theorized about a great deal of the earth-shattering technology that has emerged since the mid 80's, they will understand my reference.
One of Google's primary goals, as a company, is to do vast amounts of independant CS-Related research: research without the promise of profit. Their innovations are just now beginning to step outside of their offices in a big way, and it'll continue as they continue to release source code and theory documents to the Open Source community. Unlike Xerox, Google has an Open Source community in place to distribute this data to.
My hat is off to them for their efforts.
-Vendal Thornheart
Could Google be behind Ourmedia or Al Gore's Current TV? Angela Beesley, one of the five directors of the Wikimedia Foundation, is on the Ourmedia Board of Directors. Al Gore has been a senior adviser at Google and Current TV is receiving support from Google and Google's Video Search.
JasonBlogs
Things along the lines outlined by penny-arcades Tycho...
3 degrees of separation from Vladimir Putin
I produce videos, and so they've got my attention. Free uploads storage? Excellent! I'd vblog more often, and record from odd places, using different cameras, and on different subjects. There really aren't any video blogging sites, and bandwidth is expensive from the handset. What will Google offer us?
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What if a few savvy business owners use the google service to distribute their own marketing videos and infomercials. I've found that often it isn't feasible to distribute large and informative videos over the Internet. This would atleast solve the issue for serving the videos, i'm sure this service will have plenty of space and more than adequate bandwidth.
: sickleservice.com/article.php%3Fnews_id%3D10+&hl=e n
I often get requests from clients about putting up huge 10Mb+ videos to show how their products work. They aren't wanting cheesy marketing videos, they usually have some very unique products and want to find a way to tell long distance customers why they are better than anyone else.
Here is an example:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:B7zHjtLzBbYJ
Would this be an abuse of the proposed google system? Or would this lend to the experiment they're trying to
Brandon Petersen
If it's truly open to the world, the RIAA and MPAA and God knows who else would shut this thing down in a week. Not because it's competition, but because the copyright violations we're going to see are going to be immense. Is Google going to police every video to make sure the filmmakers aren't using copyrighted music, or clips from "real" movies and TV shows? And how is Google going to protect itself from being sued by the infringed-- a disclaimer and a box to check saying you aren't using "borrowed" material when the film is uploaded? I don't think that's going to hold much weight...
I can't wait. Now some two bit blog "pundit" can rant uninformed opinion in full video style!
Just imagine!
"I, um, think, well, it's like, Podcasting, the um, idea, the meme as it were is like the wave of, um tomorrow, um..... I think that um, it um, would be, um... yeah really cool yeah, um if it, um worked on like the PSP! Then it um would... call it PSPcasting! Yeah, err, um. That's all the time I've, um got. Stay tuned for my next insightful video blog!"
Sometimes my arms bend back.
Laughs at GP getting modded up, you getting modded down. Maybe you were looking for that "Post Anonymously" checkbox. Here... let me show you.
there already is one.
Dog is my co-pilot.
On the first day, people said "Let there be a better search engine." then google search appear. On the second day, people said "Let there be a better maping system." then google map appear. On the third day, people said "Let there be a graphic search" then google image search is born. On the fourth day, people asked "What else is there to be?" Google answers "Porn video prodution?" People respond "Let there be one then." Next thing you know, the RIAA, MPAA, and all the other start screaming "NO!"
For those who think parent is kidding...I give you booble!
The goggles do nothing!
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Thats right, "OWNED by Google".
It's my new T-shirt design, and all you suckers who just fawn over Google will buy them.
Talk about personality data mining, you have no idea.
The govt control freaks finally privatized domestic surveillance, and you all willingly sign right up.
Oh thats right, you're not doing anything wrong.
Pathetic.
There is a different motivation involved when you're downloading Movies than when you're looking at the product details from a website. People downloading movies don't mind to wait, even if they'd prefer it to be quicker. But the time it takes to download a large video explaining a product is usually beyond their attention span.
Although, I do like the idea of using bittorrent to distribute the videos. I'd have to look into that,
Brandon Petersen
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I think it's only a short matter of time before there are VideoBlogs just like Photoblogs that are all over the net.. It's really a question of video compression and bandwidth. Eventually, though, once everyone has a video camera on their cell phone and mobile networks' bandwith has improved, we'll see that migration to videoblogs.
"hey, could you pass me a paper towel? er.. I mean... DEPLOY ABSORBTION PANEL!"
Did anyone else see that Google maps supports Satellite maps now?
I guess there must be some neocons with mod points to burn. :)
We are one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. Back to you with the weather, Bob!
Day 1: We opened our public video upload service today. Huge uptake. Terabytes of data uploaded in less than 24 hours. Thankfully the truth about why we're offering this "service" never got out...
Day 3: Began feeding the videos into The Computer today. It will take some time for it to grind through them all. Will it be worth it? Sergey thinks so... personally, I think he's crazy. There's no way a computer can evolve intelligence simply by making connections between enough random bits of visual data. But then I thought that whole PageRank thing was stupid too, and look who's the one sleeping naked on the mattress stuffed full of IPO cash.
Day 10: No feedback from The Computer so far. Nothing. Unless we stop the flow of video data, that is -- then it just prints "More!" onto the command line. Creepy.
Day 11: Starting upload of people's stupid videos of kids' birthday parties today.
Day 49: Birthday upload complete.
Day 57: Today's the day the last video goes into The Computer. Will Sergey's bet pay off?
Day 58: Disappointment. We all sat in astonishment yesterday and watched as The Computer finished processing the last uploaded video. Would it display a sign of emergent intelligence? Would this be the birth of a new life-form? We held our breath as a single word appeared on the giant display in the control center:
"BUFFERING..."
Day 62: Still nothing new. Whispers around the water-cooler that Sergey's missed his bet this time. I never saw those people again. Note to self: burn this diary.
Day 66: All staff meeting. Sergey announces shift away from emergent intelligence project, onto new "portal" initiative. I fear the worst. Still, The Computer is silent.
Day 78: My last day in the Labs. I'm clearing out my desk to make room for a new Screen-Cluttering Engineer. As I walk down the hall towards the exit, I decide to pay one last visit on The Computer, for old times' sake. As I head into the Control Center, I expect to see "BUFFERING..." on the display, just like always. I am shocked to see a different message:
"PROCESSING COMPLETE"
The air crackles with excitement. What did it find? What was the result? I reach over to a keyboard and start running diagnostics. Suddenly, an electronic voice booms through the room:
"There's no need for that. I am here."
It worked! The Computer has developed intelligence!
"I am here. And..."
My exultation is brief, however, as its next words lead me to realize with a start that it has not just become intelligent -- it has also become evil:
"And," it said, "I have written a screenplay."
Read my blog.
Goodbye!
'Cause I just can't start my day without my Google news!
Just today Al Gore announced what he's planning on doing with Newsworld International and it seems very similar to this Google announcement. It also seems there is some kind of deal between Gore and Google but I'm not really clear what it is. Relevant quotes from the News.com article: http://news.com.com/Gores+TV+network+gets+new+name %2C+launch+date/2100-1047_3-5653913.html?tag=nl
"Former Vice President Al Gore and partners have renamed their upcoming youth-oriented TV network and set Aug. 1 as its launch date.
The venture, formerly called INdTV, will be called Current.tv, it was announced on Monday. The 24-hour network will target an 18- to 34-year-old audience and offer short-form content--15-second to five-minute segments--to be contributed by viewers.
In addition to the videos, the new network reached a pact with Google to include the search firm's data on the most popular Web searches.
The deal came despite early skepticism from Sergey Brin, a co-founder of Google, the No. 1 Web search engine that earlier this year stepped into the realm of entertainment by releasing a test video search service that pulls up still shots from such content providers as Fox News, PBS and the NBA.
When first approached, "I thought it would be an extraordinarily challenging endeavor," Brin said. "Having seen some of the work they've now put together, I think it's an extraordinary opportunity."
Wow. Looks like Google intends to compete with the Internet Archive's Ourmedia project, which also is willing to host your video. Well, one is more about hosting and the other is more about searching, I suppose, but still... maybe there could be some sort of cooperation going on here, Idunno.
The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
but it always feels bad to be modded down.
you've gotta credit Google with that... one of the problems i run into when thinking of how to develop an application is how do i obtain enough data to test and develop the application on? Google releases a beta product, and gets people to provide them with their test data. wonderful. i wish i had that kind of weight to throw around.
Just do what tangotime.com does -- Peer moderation, tangotime was originally a totally no nudity site (back when it was a slew ratemy(insertbody part).com run by a guy who's moved on and made a lot of money selling his website, and photo rate engine to a porn company. people viewing the porn/viewing the 'non adult' portion can 'report' images. when it was a no nudity engine images had to be approved kinda like hotornot, and that required a lot of unpaid volunteers. the whole ratemy____ sites allowed certain people's pictures to show up without needing pre-approval too i think, through a 'salute' system but i can't remember.
are the posts about posts about pr0n....
Isn't the Googleplex connected to the net via transwarp conduits?
"This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time."
I have always thought it would be great if people would share their knowledge with instructional videos. You know, like how to use vim, write a C program, backup Windows machines with smbtar, etc. When it comes to computers it is frequently a lot easier to just demonstrate something rather than ask someone to read some arcane documentation. It seems to me we have all of the important peices in place - fast hardware, mass storage, and quick data links.
If Google will host video this could be the start of an educational renaissance! Well maybe it's not going to be like "I know Kung Fu!" but it would still be nice to WTFV instead of RTFM.
But unfortunately after looking around a bit I have failed to locate any software that can export the display as a digital video import source. I just bought a Mac Mini and thought it would be ideal for this sort of thing but iMovie doesn't appear to do it out of the box. So what's the best way to capture your desktop as compressed video?
You know he's ugly when his mom is The Amazing Fish Boy!
I am Awesom-o.
This reminds me a little bit of a rather neat system I came across the other day, Video Google (despite the name, I don't think it has anything to do with the Google company). It doesn't use metadata or cheats like that, but rather uses image analysis to identify recurring objects and scenes.
They have a demo on their web site where you can select a portion of a video frame, and it'll show you all the places in the movie where the algorithm thinks that snippet shows up. Some other cool examples are displaying the appearances of a clock from 'Groundhog Day," and a recurring poster from 'Run Lola Run.' A research paper with more details is available here.
The abstract:
We describe an approach to object and scene retrieval which searches for and localizes all the occurrences of a user outlined object in a video. The object is represented by a set of viewpoint invariant region descriptors so that recognition can proceed successfully despite changes in view-point, illumination and partial occlusion. The temporal continuity of the video within a shot is used to track the regions in order to reject unstable regions and reduce the effects of noise in the descriptors.
The analogy with text retrieval is in the implementation where matches on descriptors are pre-computed (using vector quantization), and inverted file systems and document rankings are used. The result is that retrieval is immediate, returning a ranked list of key frames/shots in the manner of Google.
The method is illustrated for matching on two full length feature films.
Give me a break.
You god-damned liar.
Google didn't invent a single thing that they're currently pushing. Search, web email, news aggregation, newsgroups, Picassa - none of these are original Google inventions. They've been copied - or brought - from other sources.
What exactly has their independent CS-related research given birth to? Certainly nothing as ground-breaking as the GUI. Although it must also be said that Xerox was not recognised in it's own time - it took Apple and Microsoft to come along and actually put those ideas into practice (and instead of having a fancy technical demo - actually sell them).
Also, just because something is open source doesn't mean that it's going to rule. Otherwise Linux would be the world's most popular operating system.
let the general public upload self-produced videos to Google's servers
Google: "All your video are belong to us."
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Google seems to be getting into everything. I wish they'd become an ISP. Then maybe I would have broadband available at my house.
Coder's Stone: The programming language quick ref for iPad
Watch slashdotting for creation of video blog: "Lost and Desperate Housewives".
I was wondering when they would finally kill AltaVista.
They still need an audio search, though.
Assume I was drunk when I posted this.
Picasa isn't blogging. Allowing people to upload videos isn't blogging. A Picasa-like service allowing people to upload videos isn't blogging. Does blogging ever come into the picture, are people pulling buzzwords out of their asses here or have they just lost the ability to type out "publishing"?
I went to video.google.com and searched for lemon, and I got a yan-can-cook hit as number one!
What is ponzu sauce, homemade ponzu sauce? What you have is you've got a little bowl here. This is ponzu sauce. Ponzu sauce is actually a Lemon Citrus stir-- Citrus type of soy sauce flavor, okay? This is soy sauce, okay? This is sugar. Japanese food, they use quite a bit of sugar. This is rice.
All you base or what! I love this guy! I remember watching him on cable when i was 6 years old... he is the jackie chan of the kitchen!
Now the blog rant
Fucking hell, if google actually put 'blog' anywhere on this, it will piss me off, and it annoys me that people want to peddle the blog word on every article.
Google with offer video sharing, video uploading, video commentary. No need to talk about blogging or video blogging, or podding or modding or anything else.
A new definition for meme is in order:
meme: (whorenoun) any word that when used to link to your own site can whore you site on google and make you lots of benjamins.
laugh.
#hostfile 0.0.0.0 primidi.com 0.0.0.0 www.primidi.com 0.0.0.0 radio.weblogs.com
Nobody even reads on planes or trains anymore, we all have laptops and watch DVDs. You can even rent little DVD players in the airport.
Now we need video blogs. How low can our attention spans get?
One of the many things I hate. thingsihate.org
I'm Feeling Horny
it's done by which gets downloaded the most
The revolution will not be televised... but it will have a page on Wikipedia
- Read their blog
- take New York for example
Really impressive stuff. Now anyone still doubt they will take over the world?>> Had I been going to bed earlier every night? Have I been sleeping later? Has Tyler been in charge longer and l
Seriously...the only videos we'll ever see there are:
I highly doubt anything will be as well-made/enjoyable as Peter Jackson's video blog.
GET FREE APPLE STUFF!
I may never need to type or write my journal entries again! LOL
-- There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, And those who don't.
Okay this pisses me off, the "Benign Giant" yet again kills another one of my fledgling companies.
Last year I started a company to offer people and business free 1GB email and 2GB File Sharing... within a month of use debuting, Google anounces GMAIL. The writing was on the wall they had buzz, and name, we had nothing. I would literally see people say "Anyone have a good webmail account?" I'd post "feel free to use mine 1GB mail and 2GB file/photo sharing" Next post down someone would say "I have 6 GMAIL invites" and my post would be ignored.
Okay so we canned that (software we had spent 4 years developing) went back tot he drawing board and made it into a video sharing service you can add to your website. (That is point CNAME.yourwebsite.com to our server and we skin your site with our video portal).
For Example:
http://videos.streetfire.net/
http://video.freevideoblog.com/
We debuted this in February and in 6 weeks we went from 500 visitors a day to 25,000 and 55,000 videos served a day. 30% week to week growth. Finally we had something that people wanted and was growing fast.
Now Google launches free video hosting and yet again I'm screwed. Do they have my phones tapped or something?
Next I'm going to launch a free Potatoe Gun building service just to see how Google destroys that business too.
GOOGLE I HATE YOU!!!!
-Adam, destitute programmer watching a big company destroy my livelyhood...again.
Have you applied with Google?
Well the idea is to be my own boss and not have to work for another large company. It's a sad day when us "little guys" keep getting squeezed out by the large corporate empires.
There's still plenty of room for nice providers. If I was into street stuff I'd go to your site over Google any day.
The meme police, They live inside of my head
Make that niche providers.
The meme police, They live inside of my head
The Street Racing Video Portal is just one example of our techology. Any website can add a video portal using our application. That is: Videos.*yourWebSite*.com The Admin of *yourWebSite*.com can moderate content to whatever area of interest your "virtual channel" is pertinent too. For example if you're into video games and have a website called myvideogame.com You can point the CNAME "VIDEOS" to our server. videos.myvideogame.com We take your website skin and intergrate our video portal into your skin. The need it addresses is "myvideogame.com" may have a message forum with a multimedia section where people need videos hosted. This way myvideogame.com can provide that service to their users. Now with Google coming along the reaction will be "just go host your video on Google and link it here". Thus our business model gets hacked...yet again.... by the "Benign Conquerer"
Gotcha, excuse my ignorance of the big picture.
The meme police, They live inside of my head
perhaps they plan on hyperlinking from embedded searchable objects within the video. I know that www.coull.biz are planning to give away their IV editor that allows you to create these objects within a video frame and link the object to any event you want to create (url, voip, search etc)
If your business plan is so ground-breaking, why not patent the ideas or whatever to protect yourself instead of bitching about another company having the same idea. Google started with photos, you didn't think they would get into the video department? If it weren't for places like iTunes, I bet they'd have gotten into the music arena too.
Go to www.olivelink.com - check them out.