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Humanoid Robot KHR-1 SDK Released

ls129 writes "KHR-1, the Japanese Robo-One humanoid robot kit from Kondo (previously mentioned here), is finally open for creative software development. The first unofficial implementation of the PC-controller API has just been posted. Using the SDK, the 17 servos that give the robot its mobility can be remote controlled by the PC via WiFi or bluetooth, and their current position can be retrieved several times per second. This unique feature will allow robot fans to go beyond simple performance of motion sequences or low-level gyro-based motion correction and develop algorithms that involve feedback control and AI." Update: 04/05 16:59 GMT by T : As originally posted, I erroneously changed the robot's nationality from Japanese to Korean; that was a boo-boo; the linked site with an English translation is Korean, but the robot itself is Japanese. Apologies to the submitter, who had it right.

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  1. Stand by by Underholdning · · Score: 3, Funny

    Stand by for 300 "I for one welcome our new robot overlords" comments, 250 comments about terminator, 4 "Robot, Kill Flanders!" and 3 "FIRST POST".
    Thank you. This was just a drill. You may now resume to your regular work.

    1. Re:Stand by by Deltaspectre · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Robot, kill our new robot overlords before they obtain first post!"

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  2. Re:The 18th service by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 2, Funny

    So as to avoid missing FP by a split second?

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  3. Chobits by elasticwings · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dammit, I got all excited for nothing. Wake me up when somebody actually starts a Chobits line of robots.

    1. Re:Chobits by TupperTrenine · · Score: 5, Funny

      Screw that, wake me up when the developers find a more inobtrusive place for the power switch. I don't want to accidently turn off\reset my Persocom while I'm uh... utilizing it to its fullest capacities. Yeah.

  4. hmmm..... by sugapablo · · Score: 5, Funny

    "can be remote controlled by the PC via WiFi or bluetooth"

    So can this feature be combined with a previously posted Slashdot story? Can users use bluetooth to make the robot approach a nice young woman in a train station and ask if they're "Toothing?"

  5. the most important question by billwie · · Score: 2, Funny

    yeah, but can it do the robot?

  6. AI, OK, but how much? by couch_warrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this going to produce AI as in "I am bender, please insert girder"? Or as in, "Maybe the blue fairy will make me into a real boy so my mommy will love me". I eagerly await the former, and I dread the latter, since it will take us two seconds to pervert it into "Im gigolo Joe, Waddaya know?" Artificial intelligence for menial tasks is great. Artifical humanity will be perverted so fast it will make your head spin.

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  7. Hang on, AI? by thrashor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do my eyes deceive or did I just read that the unique wireless control mechanisms of this robot will allow developers to implement AI? If that's all we needed, we've been focusing on the wrong areas!

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    1. Re:Hang on, AI? by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I think it's a matter of processing power. Serious AI is going to take serious processing power. No little robot will be able to carry the leve of equipment needed to "think" on its own. So the solution (for now anyways) is to setup the software on some super computer (or at least something significantly more powerful than the robot's internal facilities) and then send interaction commands to the body via a wireless link.


      Hopefully in the future suitable devices will shrink down to a level that they can fit inside a human sized robot.

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    2. Re:Hang on, AI? by ls129 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Congratulations on posting the first non-troll comment!

      The AI-enabling feature is the position feedback that you can get from the servos. In order to create AI you need a feedback loop involving getting sensor data and updating servo positions repeatedly.

      Normal RC-servos were designed to be embedded in a RC-car or RC-plane and controled by a human. In this case the feedback loop is acheived by the human seeing what the car is doing and updating the direction with his joystick.

      For an autonomous robot to work, the cpu needs to be fed with lots of sensor data at high refresh rates. Hence this humanoid has the potential of becoming autonomous.

  8. Re:WiMAX by bcmm · · Score: 5, Funny

    You lazy bastard...

    Wait, you mean we don't have to leave the basement anymore?

    Is it legal for these things to sign credit card reciepts, drive etc.?

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  9. Re:The 18th service by FirienFirien · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Servo" - as in 17 servos, used in the article - is short for Servomechanism. Remote actuation. Service, on the other hand... and you can bet that they've already thought of more than 17 ways to use it. I have, and I haven't even had coffee.

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  10. Available for sale to the US? by ItWasThem · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does anyone know if this is orderable/importable/for sale generally in the US? Both sites are craawling to a halt today and I REALLY want one. Course I haven't seen the price yet...

    1. Re:Available for sale to the US? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Insightful

      if you have to ask what price, you probably can't afford it...

      At least, this Korean robot isn't on the cheap side

    2. Re:Available for sale to the US? by i4u · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Kondo KHR-1 Robot Kit sells for $1,499.00 at AudioCubes.

    3. Re:Available for sale to the US? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Informative

      you can also get one here for 146$ more... or just check that site to see what the insides of the box looks like. Looks like a Mecano set! Everything needs to be assembled.

  11. Re:Amazing by ls129 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    intelligence is all about low-level feedback control. when you take a million small such entities working together other things emerge like stragegy and and soul.. :)

    try to google : feedback control robot

    for example:
    http://mundobot.com/projects/melanie/v3/enmelanie3 .htm
    http://www.ynl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~fabio/bipedloc.htm
    Sony Quorio, Honda Asimo etc.

  12. Just another toy... by zappepcs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The 17 servos in this robot use a LOT of battery. Add a wireless card to that and the joy of *using* this robot will only last a few minutes. Especially if that battery has to also power the remote video link. Its not big enough to carry lots of batteries. The act of remotely controlling a robot is not new, nor is it proprietary. There are dozens of servo controllers on the market that can be controlled using simple serial commands. The clever home robotics hobbyist can buy all they need to replicate this robot in the good old US of A. There are some that are building their own. http://www.sorobotics.org/dgates/samm.html It may be cute, or cool to watch, but the gizmos inside it are ordinary, and can be replicated almost anywhere. There is nothing to get excited about until robots are doing something useful for mankind in general. For example: yard work, harvesting crops, mining on other planets etc.

  13. Re:17 Servos: Too Many? by drooling-dog · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Oops. Let's try this again...

    When I saw this I'd just finished reading an article in Science (18 Feb 05) entitled
    Efficient Bipedal Robots Based on Passive-Dynamic Walkers (subscription required). Contrary to the "mainstream" approach of actuating every joint with a complex control system, the authors describe three robots that achieve very natural human-like gaits using far fewer actuators and much simpler control principles (one of them using adaptive learning). Not only are these robots far simpler to control, but they typically require only about a tenth of the energy of designs that attempt to actuate every joint (e.g., knees). I'll speculate that this passive/dynamic approach is going to dominate in the future.

  14. Feedback claims dubious by AndyLippitt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unmodified hobby servos do not expose the position data without cracking them open and reading the internal pot. Looking at the API, I'm guessing it's simply remembering the last positions you told it to move to and regurgitating them.

    I'm working on a project that sort of does what this is claiming to do by providing this feedback by way of current sensing.
    http://satiety.com/robot