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Wikipedia Planning a DVD Version

daria42 writes "The Wikipedia Foundation hopes to sell an English version of Wikipedia on CD-ROM and DVD before the end of the year. A boxed set of the German language version of Wikipedia has been available since last year. An updated version of the German Wikipedia was launched on Amazon.de this week, and the e-commerce site has received 8,000 pre-orders, according to Wikipedia Foundation president Jimmy Wales. Wales said it was easier to put the German version of Wikipedia onto CD as there are significantly less pages than there are for the English language version. He said that English Wikipedia would 'barely fit on 2 DVDs.'"

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  1. Why? by KingSkippus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not that I hope multitudes don't buy this, because any support of such and effort is good, but why would anyone buy it when you can just look it up and possibly get better updated results online?

    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It's 100% positivly available for a research paper.

      You'd use Wikipedia as a source for a research paper? God have mercy on our souls. How do you footnote an article? "I3_Sexy_gal_xxxx_1313 Wikipedia.org "All about the President" 2005" lol. What a buffoon.

  2. why this is good by izzo+nizzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because you gotta love it when people get paid while continuing to give you their stuff for free. Everybody wins.

  3. Neat idea, but... by kyle90 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it's a good idea to have wikipedia available in other formats than just online, but isn't the whole point of it that anyone can come and edit the articles to make them more correct? You couldn't do that with a DVD version. And unless someone is going to go through every article before putting it on a disc, you'd run the risk of buying an encyclopedia with some things blatantly wrong. I could envision pranksters trying to sneak in false information just before the DVD release...

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    1. Re:Neat idea, but... by kyle90 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, wikipedia now is free. If I'm spending money on an encyclopedia, I'd rather it be factual. If it's free, though, I don't mind the occassional error.

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  4. Mad dash to make "corrections" before it goes gold by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know how controversial subjects in the Wikipedia get fights over entries. Back and forth it goes, with one person putting their "truth" and then the opposite side removing or replacing it with their version of the "truth." Now, just picture it: The deadline for the gold master version to be put on disc is announced, and like people pouncing on an EBay auction at the last second, the warring factions will rapidly replace each other's versions of an article, hoping that their version is the one to be immortalized on disc.

  5. School usage by under_R_run · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This would be great for schools. They could buy the DVD set and set up a local "mirror" of Wikipedia to increase access speed and decrease Wikipedia bandwidth usage.

    1. Re:School usage by Horrortaxi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No no no. One of the reasons you do research papers in school is so you can learn to evaluate sources of information--basically so you can tell shit from shinola. Wikipedia would never make it into the reference page of anybody who was taking their assignment seriously. I'm sure as teachers get hip to Wikipedia they'll start explicitly telling students not to use it.

  6. Re:Whaaa? by pHatidic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sounds like an excellent legal application for BitTorrent.

  7. Unless.. by Teja · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Honestly, I'm wondering how the CD will be like. Will they include an option for you to have the ability to update the content at your setting? Or will it be so that you have to buy a new version everytime? I'm thinking that they will include an option to update but you can also buy newer versions so that you don't have to spend time updating (I hope)

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  8. Re:What's their point? by MarthaStewart32 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    German people dont necessarily speak english and vice versa. And two DVD's is a lot of space. And 4 cd's isnt even a DVD. And just because other people use multiple disks doesnt mean its a good idea. I remember playing riven and having to switch disks way way to often. And for a Encyclopedia there would be a 50% chance that you would have to switch disks everytime you looked something up. That would be rather annoying when trying to do any research.

  9. Re:Whaaa? by remahl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not counting images and other media, yeah.

  10. Re:Whaaa? by Knightmare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I bet people would like to be able to read it or even search it off of the DVDs, which means storing it in bz2 format on the DVD is probably a BAD idea... So yes it's only 585 megs when bzip2'd but that isn't a very friendly format to deal with.

  11. Re:Mad dash to make "corrections" before it goes g by the+pickle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Better idea: let the Wikipedia admins pick a version of the page they like, and don't mention the gold master date to anyone. If the deadline isn't known, the factions -- and let's be honest, this might be a problem on ten or fifteen major pages at most -- can't go edit-warring right up to the deadline.

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  12. Re:Is this legal? by the+pickle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow, what a karma whore.

    On the bottom of every single Wikipedia page, right there in plain sight, is a link to the GNU Free Documentation License, which governs everything submitted to Wikipedia.

    p

  13. Re:Where is the Great Publishing House of Ursa Min by enigmathegreat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've always considered Wikipedia the closest thing Earth has to a Hitchhiker's Guide. If I need to know about anything quickly, that's the first place I look. I'd be a bit interested in something like what the parent mentioned.

  14. Vandals by Bifurcati · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Although vandals are rare, it's not inconceivable that across their entire page set there would be at least one vandalised page. Kind of unfortunate if that gets included in the DVDs!

    Anyone know if they have any way of stopping this?

  15. Re:Whaaa? by jacksonj04 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nope. Wikipedia is available over HTTP in a much more up-to-date, interactive and dynamic format than DVDs. The whole purpose of the DVD sets is... I don't know. I really don't. but why BitTorrent it when you can just point your browser at wikipedia.com?

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  16. Stupid Idea by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's the point? Wikipedia is an inherently online medium. The articles change daily, new ones are created, etc. This cannot be reasonably placed on a static medium.

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  17. Re:Whaaa? by saforrest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wikipedia is available over HTTP in a much more up-to-date, interactive and dynamic format than DVDs.

    Well, yes, if you want to read it you're probably not going to download the entire bloody encyclopedia to your local machine via bittorrent.

    But some people would have valid reasons for wanting this. A lot of places resyndicate Wikipedia content, e.g. www.thefreedictionary.com. or answers.com; I'm exactly sure why these sites do it, but I can think or many valid reasons.

    Maybe data miners or researchers want to run scripts on Wikipedia and make all kinds of conclusions (such things are entirely legal and above board, since the content is free).

    The whole purpose of the DVD sets is... I don't know. I really don't.

    Well, not all of us are connected to the Internet 24/7. Some of us have laptops without wireless Internet, and even computers without network cards at all.

    Lastly, there are many places in the world where you can't get a reliable net connection at all (e.g. various places in Africa, Asia).

  18. Re:Whaaa? by Daravon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While the above posts mentioned the images used in the articles, there's also formatting for a searchable dvd. There would probably be some sort of formatting of the data for an easily searchable archive.

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  19. Why would anyone cite Wiki? by Banner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Really? WHY? It's not factual, often more farcicle. Wiki is based on consensus and not facts, and reality (nor the facts) change because a large number or people believe something is so.

    Going to Wiki is a waste of time, I honestly can't understand why people do it.

    1. Re:Why would anyone cite Wiki? by Catullus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I probably HBT, but anyway - your "waste of time" statement is just not true. Many, many articles on Wikipedia are excellent: informative, detailed, and well-written. In particular, I often have occasion to look up information about mathematical topics, and have usually found the maths articles to be highly useful.

      For example, compare the Wikipedia entry for "Lie group" with the Mathworld entry. There are many other pages of a similar, or higher, level of quality.

      Of course, you have to take everything on Wikipedia with a pinch of salt - but that applies to every online resource! And, in fact, every source of information in the world.