Wrong. How is Kinect "innovative" when it is functionally no different on a console than PlayStation's EyeToy that was released 10 years ago? Kinect games brought absolutely no innovation in gameplay. The data that the Kinect can capture and being projected onto a 2D TV screen for a console is no different than doing image recognition with the EyeToy 10 years ago.
Sure, Kinect hacks are coming out to produce interesting things, but Microsoft didn't create those hacks. And in fact, Microsoft didn't even make the Kinect sensor, they just bought the technology and spent a ton of money marketing it. Microsoft provided no innovation in 2010, much like every other year.
Have you tried it yourself? No. I don't know who "everyone else" is; if you are referring to a couple sites paid by Microsoft to spread false information, sure. But if you actually went to majority of the biggest gaming sites, such as IGN, N4G, Kotaku and numerous, numerous others, the PS Move got nothing but praise on its accuracy.
It is surprising to me that your post is +5 Insightful, when you are basing your opinion on false understanding of the different technologies.
The Wii is limited by the use of vectors rather than absolute positioning; whereas the PS Move is highly accurate in both minute and large movements.
People nowadays have a mentality that Wii = Casual games, therefore, Motion Controls = Casual games. What most people fail to understand (and I expected much more of the tech-savvy Slashdot users) is that the reason why motion controls has been associated with casual games is due to the lack of precision.
How many games on the Wii has successfully integrated motion control where you are actually moving your character's limbs/weapons in 1:1 precision? None (The new Zelda game didn't seem to be as accurate as the PS Move during the E3 2010 demonstration). Wii games, and most definitely, Kinect games, must be forgiving in design to account for the lack of precision; hence, the existence of causal games.
In terms of technology, PS Move is everything that we thought Wii can do when the Wii was first introduced. Who was disappointed when they first played Wii Boxing and found out that Wii is not 1:1? I sure did.
We all know that Kinect is all smoke-and-mirrors spewed out by Microsoft in order to trick uninformed users of what it can and can't do. The Kinect Star Wars demo will NEVER be the way that Microsoft has led the uninformed to believe due to Kinect's high latency and the software challenges associated with handling different body sizes and human movements.
PS Move, however, has highly accurate dynamic tracking (both slight and large movements) and will have amazingly accurate fighting games, lightsaber fights, etc, etc that is not possible on the Wii and especially Kinect. So to lump the PS Move with Wii bowling and base your opinion on previous motion control implementations is illogical.
The XBox360 architecture was never designed to support anything other than DVDs. Even with the HD-DVD peripheral, XBox360 games could not have taken advantage of the extra space that seems to be in demand nowadays.
But I agree, XBox360 is the worst reliable piece of consumer electronics in recent history. At first, I didn't believe at how a piece of electronics can have at least 30% failure rate; but I was made a believer when every one of my friends' 360 broke down.
It is amazing how such false and misleading information was modded Interesting. Before you call "bullshit", it might help if you provided evidence using more accurate test variables to trend popularity.
Firstly, many people refer to the "Playstation 3" as the "PS3". Secondly, it _might_ help your test results if you used "Playstation 3, Wii" instead of "Playstation 3.wii". So, let's take a look at the _real_ trend:
How the parent got modded so high is baffling. Ubisoft has NEVER said the AI in the 360 will be more intelligent than the PS3. Jade Raymond said that the XBox360 has "improved threading" during X06, but no where did she say what it was compared to. It was clearly FUD that Microsoft got Ubisoft to spread.
And how such a false statement of saying the PS3 will be limited to 256MB of video RAM has been modded as Interesting on Slashdot is absurd. Look at the top level diagram. The RSX can access an additional 256MB of XDR through the Cell. The RSX was designed to work with the Cell, that is why it is different than the conventional console hardware setup.
It's hype all over again, for sure. Every company does it, but it looks like you are being lead into believing the Microsoft FUD-hype instead.
Sure, Microsoft doesn't deserve the "flak" if you only look at how they affect you personally. I think it all comes down to the person you are. I think people who only think about themselves will think Microsoft is a good company, providing good products and services. People who think about the aggregate picture, and how Microsoft is negatively affecting innovation and the world, will no doubt hate Microsoft.
Just thinking about how Microsoft affects you is simply a case of tunnel vision, and such logic lacks any forward-thinking. Have you ever considered how much technology would evolve if the billions that the top Microsoft executives make actually went back into Research and Development? Have you ever thought about how much more productive people would be if they were not fighting Windows 50% of the time?
You claim you forsee problems if you were to use Linux or OSX, but have you considered what would happen if there was real competition in the OS market? The competition and funding would drive the competing OSes to become much more stable and user-friendly. Contrary to having a monopoly trying to use the funding to leverage their entry into other markets and/or use the funding to prevent competition from entering.
Now, consider the positive butterfly-effect that the increased funding would have on technology if Microsoft didn't use their monopoly capital to negatively push back on technological innovation in order to gain market share. Researchers would be much more productive, and other sectors, such as Cancer research, etc, would advance much faster.
Final Fantasy Versus XIII is NOT for 360. Notice that at the end of this trailer, there is a big Playstation 3 logo? Due to the complete lack of popularity of the Xbox360 in Japan, it is pretty much guaranteed that no big-budget spin-offs of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, let alone the main series, will appear on the Xbox360.
It's pretty obvious that who you are affects what you do in life: Be it work, or your inbox, it's nothing surprising, really. Where Mr. Greenfield's theory falls apart is when you consider the work that needs to be done to clean the inbox versus the work that needs to be done in everyday life. For example, my inbox is sorted and cleaned each time an email comes in, but yet, my house is quite messy and I have a lot of outstanding items on my agenda. Mr. Greenfield says "inboxes are metaphors for our lives", I am a living proof that the claim is not true.
For computer games you bar is much lower and thus there is a much larger percent of the population who, even though they might not be the "best of the best" could still give them a run for their money.
This is mostly untrue. Ever heard of Professional StarCraft players? These guys train every day. Some Professional StarCraft players have over 300APM (actions per minute). I guarantee that an average player have no chance of beating these professional players.
Simple. People for the most part would rather PLAY video games than watch them.
A better question is, is it worthwhile to unplug the console each time you play it to save 3 bucks per year.
Assume that it takes 10 seconds per day to plug and unplug the console:
10 seconds/day * 365 days/year / 60 seconds/minute = 60 minutes per year spent playing with the plug
Even at minimum wage, spending 60 minutes per year to save 3 bucks is not worthwhile.
And so, Microsoft's console market take-over strategy has begun. For years, I have been telling people that Microsoft is not entering the console market to give consumers "choice". Surprisingly, even a large portion of Slashdot readers have purchased the Xbox, despite turning around to bash Microsoft on Slashdot.
Absolutely no company is willing to take such massive losses in hopes to enter a competitive market. The return in a competitive market is simply very small compared to the losses incurred by Microsoft's brute-force entry into the market. Microsoft is entering the console market to create another monopoly.
Microsoft's plan of action is to take out Sony. Once Sony is out of the picture, Microsoft will slowly tie users to various Microsoft services and begin to use more leverage from their existing monopolies.
Once the users cannot switch, Nintendo have little chance of winning. Microsoft will then stop funding R&D to make up for all that lost capital. Stifling innovation at the cost of consumers.
This "alliance" is their first-step to their eventual domination of the console market. As consumers, it would be in our best interest NOT to support Microsoft in their endeavors.
If they have such bright people, maybe Microsoft can get them to start innovating to beat out competition -- you know, rather than to resort to strong-arm methods and leverages to take over markets.
In the end the PS3 will be marginally better than the XBox360, and is that worth being a year later?
Here are the games I missed out because I didn't get the Xbox:
Halo, Ninja Gaiden, various PC ports
Here are the games that I would have missed out on if I got the Xbox instead:
Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo, Devil May Cry, God of War, Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibur 3, Shadow of the Colossus, etc, etc.
I get my FPS fix on the PC with keyboard and mouse, so really, the question comes down to: Is Ninja Gaiden really worth all the other games that I don't get on the Xbox? ~50% of the console market didn't think it was worth it, while ~25% -- likely people without a PC -- thought it was.
Google OS has great potential in the desktop market. I hope that Google will not dismiss the idea entirely. I'll work for Google for free if it means that I will have a helping hand in overthrowing Microsoft.
I was in the same situation. Having completed the content before 60, I walked right into a monotonous time-sink every night, spending hours trying to complete a raid in order to have the chance to roll against 5 others on one item.
It was a waste of time, really. But then I got Guild Wars. A game that is much like a combination of Magic and a RPG. I have a blast spending whatever time I have in guild battles. For me, the strategic elements in Guild Wars out-weigh the the World of Warcraft offering.
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With the advent of the iPod, I already know of a few people who are considering a Mac as their next purchase -- the everyday Joe who would have never considered a Mac before. With more game and application developer support on the Macs, I think Apple has the ability to eat a large chunk of the Desktop OS market during the switch from XP to Vista. If Guild Wars, Counter Strike Source, and Spore get a Mac release, I'd certainly be one to get a Mac. It would also make my decision between Linux or Mac a bit easier.
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Wrong. How is Kinect "innovative" when it is functionally no different on a console than PlayStation's EyeToy that was released 10 years ago? Kinect games brought absolutely no innovation in gameplay. The data that the Kinect can capture and being projected onto a 2D TV screen for a console is no different than doing image recognition with the EyeToy 10 years ago.
Sure, Kinect hacks are coming out to produce interesting things, but Microsoft didn't create those hacks. And in fact, Microsoft didn't even make the Kinect sensor, they just bought the technology and spent a ton of money marketing it. Microsoft provided no innovation in 2010, much like every other year.
Have you tried it yourself? No. I don't know who "everyone else" is; if you are referring to a couple sites paid by Microsoft to spread false information, sure. But if you actually went to majority of the biggest gaming sites, such as IGN, N4G, Kotaku and numerous, numerous others, the PS Move got nothing but praise on its accuracy.
It is surprising to me that your post is +5 Insightful, when you are basing your opinion on false understanding of the different technologies.
The Wii is limited by the use of vectors rather than absolute positioning; whereas the PS Move is highly accurate in both minute and large movements.
People nowadays have a mentality that Wii = Casual games, therefore, Motion Controls = Casual games. What most people fail to understand (and I expected much more of the tech-savvy Slashdot users) is that the reason why motion controls has been associated with casual games is due to the lack of precision.
How many games on the Wii has successfully integrated motion control where you are actually moving your character's limbs/weapons in 1:1 precision? None (The new Zelda game didn't seem to be as accurate as the PS Move during the E3 2010 demonstration). Wii games, and most definitely, Kinect games, must be forgiving in design to account for the lack of precision; hence, the existence of causal games.
In terms of technology, PS Move is everything that we thought Wii can do when the Wii was first introduced. Who was disappointed when they first played Wii Boxing and found out that Wii is not 1:1? I sure did.
We all know that Kinect is all smoke-and-mirrors spewed out by Microsoft in order to trick uninformed users of what it can and can't do. The Kinect Star Wars demo will NEVER be the way that Microsoft has led the uninformed to believe due to Kinect's high latency and the software challenges associated with handling different body sizes and human movements.
PS Move, however, has highly accurate dynamic tracking (both slight and large movements) and will have amazingly accurate fighting games, lightsaber fights, etc, etc that is not possible on the Wii and especially Kinect. So to lump the PS Move with Wii bowling and base your opinion on previous motion control implementations is illogical.
The XBox360 architecture was never designed to support anything other than DVDs. Even with the HD-DVD peripheral, XBox360 games could not have taken advantage of the extra space that seems to be in demand nowadays. But I agree, XBox360 is the worst reliable piece of consumer electronics in recent history. At first, I didn't believe at how a piece of electronics can have at least 30% failure rate; but I was made a believer when every one of my friends' 360 broke down.
Or better yet: iPhwn.
It is amazing how such false and misleading information was modded Interesting. Before you call "bullshit", it might help if you provided evidence using more accurate test variables to trend popularity.
3 60),+(playstation+3)+%7C+ps3,+wii&date=all&geo=all &ctab=2&sa=N
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Firstly, many people refer to the "Playstation 3" as the "PS3". Secondly, it _might_ help your test results if you used "Playstation 3, Wii" instead of "Playstation 3.wii". So, let's take a look at the _real_ trend:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=xbox360+%7C+(xbox+
Finally, before trending the HD formats, it would make your argument more convincing if you spelt "Bluray" correctly:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=bluray%2C+hddvd&ct
If there ever was a good example of skewing of test results to conform to ones own opinion, it would be your misinformed post.
How the parent got modded so high is baffling. Ubisoft has NEVER said the AI in the 360 will be more intelligent than the PS3. Jade Raymond said that the XBox360 has "improved threading" during X06, but no where did she say what it was compared to. It was clearly FUD that Microsoft got Ubisoft to spread.
And how such a false statement of saying the PS3 will be limited to 256MB of video RAM has been modded as Interesting on Slashdot is absurd. Look at the top level diagram. The RSX can access an additional 256MB of XDR through the Cell. The RSX was designed to work with the Cell, that is why it is different than the conventional console hardware setup.
It's hype all over again, for sure. Every company does it, but it looks like you are being lead into believing the Microsoft FUD-hype instead.
Sure, Microsoft doesn't deserve the "flak" if you only look at how they affect you personally. I think it all comes down to the person you are. I think people who only think about themselves will think Microsoft is a good company, providing good products and services. People who think about the aggregate picture, and how Microsoft is negatively affecting innovation and the world, will no doubt hate Microsoft.
Just thinking about how Microsoft affects you is simply a case of tunnel vision, and such logic lacks any forward-thinking. Have you ever considered how much technology would evolve if the billions that the top Microsoft executives make actually went back into Research and Development? Have you ever thought about how much more productive people would be if they were not fighting Windows 50% of the time?
You claim you forsee problems if you were to use Linux or OSX, but have you considered what would happen if there was real competition in the OS market? The competition and funding would drive the competing OSes to become much more stable and user-friendly. Contrary to having a monopoly trying to use the funding to leverage their entry into other markets and/or use the funding to prevent competition from entering.
Now, consider the positive butterfly-effect that the increased funding would have on technology if Microsoft didn't use their monopoly capital to negatively push back on technological innovation in order to gain market share. Researchers would be much more productive, and other sectors, such as Cancer research, etc, would advance much faster.
Final Fantasy Versus XIII is NOT for 360. Notice that at the end of this trailer, there is a big Playstation 3 logo? Due to the complete lack of popularity of the Xbox360 in Japan, it is pretty much guaranteed that no big-budget spin-offs of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, let alone the main series, will appear on the Xbox360.
http://mindstorms.lego.com/
It's pretty obvious that who you are affects what you do in life: Be it work, or your inbox, it's nothing surprising, really. Where Mr. Greenfield's theory falls apart is when you consider the work that needs to be done to clean the inbox versus the work that needs to be done in everyday life. For example, my inbox is sorted and cleaned each time an email comes in, but yet, my house is quite messy and I have a lot of outstanding items on my agenda. Mr. Greenfield says "inboxes are metaphors for our lives", I am a living proof that the claim is not true.
For computer games you bar is much lower and thus there is a much larger percent of the population who, even though they might not be the "best of the best" could still give them a run for their money.
This is mostly untrue. Ever heard of Professional StarCraft players? These guys train every day. Some Professional StarCraft players have over 300APM (actions per minute). I guarantee that an average player have no chance of beating these professional players.
Simple. People for the most part would rather PLAY video games than watch them.
Not true.
A better question is, is it worthwhile to unplug the console each time you play it to save 3 bucks per year.
Assume that it takes 10 seconds per day to plug and unplug the console:
10 seconds/day * 365 days/year / 60 seconds/minute = 60 minutes per year spent playing with the plug
Even at minimum wage, spending 60 minutes per year to save 3 bucks is not worthwhile.
Sony's Movement-Sensing Controller Patent. Stolen from Nintendo, or making use of the patent at an opportune time?
And so, Microsoft's console market take-over strategy has begun. For years, I have been telling people that Microsoft is not entering the console market to give consumers "choice". Surprisingly, even a large portion of Slashdot readers have purchased the Xbox, despite turning around to bash Microsoft on Slashdot.
Absolutely no company is willing to take such massive losses in hopes to enter a competitive market. The return in a competitive market is simply very small compared to the losses incurred by Microsoft's brute-force entry into the market. Microsoft is entering the console market to create another monopoly.
Microsoft's plan of action is to take out Sony. Once Sony is out of the picture, Microsoft will slowly tie users to various Microsoft services and begin to use more leverage from their existing monopolies.
Once the users cannot switch, Nintendo have little chance of winning. Microsoft will then stop funding R&D to make up for all that lost capital. Stifling innovation at the cost of consumers.
This "alliance" is their first-step to their eventual domination of the console market. As consumers, it would be in our best interest NOT to support Microsoft in their endeavors.
A massive influx of lonely Slashdot males have been seen to register on AOL Games, PopCap Games, and EA's Pogo.com.
I'd much prefer the word "Pwnies".
This news would be great if the date is not so close to April 1st.
If they have such bright people, maybe Microsoft can get them to start innovating to beat out competition -- you know, rather than to resort to strong-arm methods and leverages to take over markets.
"A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever."
Then Duke Nukem Forever is going to be one hell of a game!
In the end the PS3 will be marginally better than the XBox360, and is that worth being a year later?
Here are the games I missed out because I didn't get the Xbox:
Halo, Ninja Gaiden, various PC ports
Here are the games that I would have missed out on if I got the Xbox instead:
Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo, Devil May Cry, God of War, Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibur 3, Shadow of the Colossus, etc, etc.
I get my FPS fix on the PC with keyboard and mouse, so really, the question comes down to: Is Ninja Gaiden really worth all the other games that I don't get on the Xbox? ~50% of the console market didn't think it was worth it, while ~25% -- likely people without a PC -- thought it was.
What a great plan! Public exposure: Just what the companies wanted.
Google OS has great potential in the desktop market. I hope that Google will not dismiss the idea entirely. I'll work for Google for free if it means that I will have a helping hand in overthrowing Microsoft.
I was in the same situation. Having completed the content before 60, I walked right into a monotonous time-sink every night, spending hours trying to complete a raid in order to have the chance to roll against 5 others on one item.
It was a waste of time, really. But then I got Guild Wars. A game that is much like a combination of Magic and a RPG. I have a blast spending whatever time I have in guild battles. For me, the strategic elements in Guild Wars out-weigh the the World of Warcraft offering.
With the advent of the iPod, I already know of a few people who are considering a Mac as their next purchase -- the everyday Joe who would have never considered a Mac before. With more game and application developer support on the Macs, I think Apple has the ability to eat a large chunk of the Desktop OS market during the switch from XP to Vista. If Guild Wars, Counter Strike Source, and Spore get a Mac release, I'd certainly be one to get a Mac. It would also make my decision between Linux or Mac a bit easier.