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Keyboards are Havens for Super Bugs

Techguy666 writes "Gee, this is a suprise. Researchers have found that keyboards harbor bacteria and super-germs. This is particularly interesting this time because this research noted that there is a lot of computer use in hospitals and they're finding it really difficult to sterilize them."

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  1. Wiped out by a virulent disease from unsanitary KB by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

    The clever golgafrinchans who stayed behind were wiped out by a disease caught from an unsanitary telephone. Does this study suggest we're on a similar path (unless we begin training keyboard sanitizers) or is it possible they are helping keep out immune systems regularly tested by the evils which lurk beneath the h, j, k and l keys.

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  2. Easy one: Wash it! by MPHellwig · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Perhaps using a keyboard you can clean the "normal" way would help:
    http://www.icintracom.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=4564& lastcatid=119&step=4

    Now don't say that they couldn't have thought of it too (I mean that, don't say it).

  3. Grant $$$ by yotto · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...research noted that there is a lot of computer use in hospitals...

    I wonder how much grant money they got for that one.

  4. Plastic cover by kdark1701 · · Score: 5, Informative

    They could put a plastic cover over the keyboard, with molds for each of hte keys, and spray/wipe that plastic cover with bleach every now and then.

    1. Re:Plastic cover by Lispy · · Score: 5, Funny

      "with molds for each of hte keys"

      Bu then again, this could lead to typos...

  5. That is NOT what they found! by BrakesForElves · · Score: 5, Informative

    By saying "keyboards harbor bacteria and super-germs" in the present tense, "harbor" means that keyboards right now contain super-germs. That is a crock, and a gross mis-characterization of what the study found. In the study, they _innoculated_ keyboards with "super germs", then found how long the germs could live. So the headline ought to read more like "bacteria and super-germs can survive on keyboards for 24 hours or more". Rob---

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  6. Nice work, Gary by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Informative
    Quotes from the article:

    "The difficulty with keyboards is you can't pour bleach on them," Dr. Allison McGeer, an infection control specialist from Toronto's Mount Sinai Hospital, tells The Canadian Press. "They don't work so well when you do that.''

    "Keyboards will never be completely sterile," Noskin advises. "There are always going to be bugs there."


    This is the most ridiculous piece of non-news I've seen in a while. This so-called 'researcher', Dr. Gary Noskins, needs to research Google for some sealed keyboards.

    These keyboards have been in use for quite a while...durable, washable, and yes, they can be sterilized.
    Links here and here just for starters.

    Mabye I should mail Dr.Noskin my findings...mabye I can publish a study of my own.
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    1. Re:Nice work, Gary by pclminion · · Score: 5, Informative
      These keyboards have been in use for quite a while...durable, washable, and yes, they can be sterilized.

      I'm going to nitpick here, because I'm a homebrewer and thus I deal with sanitation on a regular basis.

      A sealed keyboard cannot be sterilized unless you autoclave it. It can be sanitized, which means removing something like 99.999% of microorganisms, but it is not sterile in the sense that there is no remaining life whatsoever. No chemical agent can kill 100% of microorganisms (maybe sulfuric or hydrochloric acid at nearly 100%, but only after a long exposure period, and it would eat away the material you were trying to sterilize). Only heat (and radiation) can truly sterilize.

      Now, if these keyboards you speak of can survive autoclaving temperatures, then by all means, go for it (if you have a large enough autoclave).

      Many people casually confuse sanitation and sterilization, but they aren't strictly the same thing.

  7. Plastic has this problem... by ites · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nice surface for bugs, grease and moisture hangs around for ages.

    Wood is what you need. Dries out the bugs in no time at all.

    I've seen wooden keyboards but they are horrendously expensive. Sigh.

    The motto is: don't share your keyboard, and when you go to a cybercafe, wash your hands afterwards, and don't pick your nose.

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  8. Sterilizing Keyboards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work in a research lab, and the way we clean keyboards is by using compressed air to blow out the dust and dirt, then spraying them with 70% ethanol to remove organics. After the ethanol, they airdry pretty quick, and at the very least, we *think* they're clean. :)

  9. Do what I do... by Danimoth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only type with one hand, half the germs, twice the fun.

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  10. Study... by Virtual+Karma · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here is what one study has to say :

    According to the study, from researchers at the University of Arizona, phones have up to 25,127 germs per square inch, keyboards 3,295 per square inch and computer mice 1,676 per square inch.

    source here

  11. Re:Wiped out by a virulent disease from unsanitary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You could always clean it in the dishwasher...

  12. Re:My immune system getting stronger and stronger. by Nos. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is actually what I believe. There's various studies out there that suggest that growing up in a more rural environment will tend to produce less allergenic and breathing problems in later life. The belief is that the constant exposure to dust, seeds, animal dander and hair, etc. that is more common in a rural setting will actually teach the body to not treat these (relatively) harmless materials as hazardous and trigger allergenic or asthmatic responses.

    The same could be said of bacteria and such. We're now beginning to realize that treating every infection or virus (say a cold) with antibiotics will in fact, over time, make the bug more resistant to the drugs. A lot of people belive this is why the so called flesh-eating disease is so resistant to anti-biotics. Its been exposed to them all before.

    Remember folks, our parents and grandparents didn't have $brandName anti-bacterial wipes to clean up after cutting raw chicken, and they didn't die from salmonella either. Simple precautions such as washing your hands with soap (don't spend extra on the anti-bacterial crap) regularaly. Don't rub your eyes or pick your nose after being in contact with questionable objects.

    Simple hygene can actually prevent a surprising number of infections.

  13. Re:Wiped out by a virulent disease from unsanitary by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just tried your suggestion, and now my laptop won't boot up. Please advise.

  14. Stop picking your nose! by Pafuna · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wasn't picking it, I was SCRATCHING it...

  15. Re:Wiped out by a virulent disease from unsanitary by jokell82 · · Score: 5, Funny
    And sometimes that key with the funny looking square flag that has a cross in the middle. It's right next to the Alt button.
    You mean the Apple???
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  16. Re:Wiped out by a virulent disease from unsanitary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's still wet. Put it in the clothes dryer for a cycle or two, and you should be all set. Good luck!

  17. Pathology Lab Computers by EPDowd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    About 25 years ago I was the Sysadmn + Chief Cook and Bottle washer for a system in a Pathology Lab. It took real time data from all of the medical equipment that the lab used to test your blood. The lab in a hospital is where the sickest parts of the sickest people are brought to. The Doctor who ran the lab forced my company to by a second set of tools and software that never left the lab. I washed the hell out of my hands everytime I left that place. The rule we used was, once it went into the lab, it never came out except as medical waste to be burned or what ever they did with that stuff.

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  18. Not the problem, folks. by The+Tyro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The problem is the environment, not the items in it. Hospitals unfortunately house sick patients with multiply-drug-resistant infections. The antibiotics flow like a mighty river... only the toughest bugs survive (and survive they do!).

    There was a recent study (can't recall the journal it was in) where they cultured doctors' neckties... they were able to culture all sorts of nasty, drug-resistant organisms.

    I am a physician, and I never wear a tie to work (I won't work somewhere where they force ER docs to wear ties)... I only wear scrubs, and get a new set every day... the old ones get washed before they're worn again. I also wash my hands a hundred times a day, and even clean my stethosope with alcohol (admittedly, brief exposure to alcohol doesn't really sterilize anything... but I feel better doing it... how's that for being dogmatic?).

    Infection spread is a reality in the hospital. You try to prevent it, but it happens, and off of ANY surface, not just keyboards. Unfortunately, these bugs are out in the community as well... most of the MRSA I see walks right in the front door, often in young people who have never spent a day in the hospital.

    And if you're one of those folks who always insists on some antibiotics to "knock out this cold," then you're contributing to this problem.

    Don't get mad at me when I refuse to prescibe antibiotics for your viral illness. This is going to sound patronizing, but it's actually for your own good, and helps keep the drugs effective for when you really need them.

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  19. Re:Wiped out by a virulent disease from unsanitary by gregmac · · Score: 5, Informative

    Jokes aside, one of my friends had a bucket of water poured onto his Dell laptop last summer (the result of a badly-aimed pratical joke). We thought it was totally screwed, so wiped it down and basically took everything that was semi-user-servicable out (battery, drive bays, pc cards, memory). After it sat for a few hours and dryed up, it was able to boot and has been working normally since.

    It should be noted that it's not the water that kills devices, it's the water shorting out contacts that kills it. As long as you don't try to run it while it's on, it should survive. His was actually on when it happened, and turned off immediately, so I guess that part was just luck that it didn't fry anything.

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