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Apple Announces Tiger Release Date

GatorMarc writes "Well, it's official. Tiger will be released into the wild on April 29th with more than 200 new features, including Spotlight, Dashboard, Automator, VoiceOver, Safari RSS, Core Audio, and Core Image." Additional commentary available on ThinkSecret and MacWorld.

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  1. Geez! by mattmentecky · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sunday he wins the Masters Golf Tournament and already they are naming an OS release in his honor after him!

  2. List of New Features by ckswift · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is the entire list of the 200+ New Features:

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/newfeature s.html

  3. Java 5 by 2starr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is great news, but the lack of mentioning Java 5 makes me think that it won't be included right away. That's sad news for me...

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    1. Re:Java 5 by XenoWolf · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/ Java 1.5 is available to download for Tiger, albeit as a "Developer Preview" - still it's there, and will be coming soon for full release

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  4. Re:Mac Mini update? by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 5, Informative

    core image is an API... it will use the fasted thing on your Mac to do the rendering work.. if you have a 128 MB GFX card but the processor will get the job done faster, then it will use the processor.

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  5. Re:Crap by GizmoToy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If by last night you mean April 12th (after midnight), then you'll be able to get it for $10 shipping and handling. Otherwise, you're gonna have to call and talk them out of it. In fact, I'd probably call today and let them know. Who knows, you only missed the announcement by a day, maybe they'll give you a discount, or just send it for $10.

    I've been waiting to purchase a mini until the announcement since I knew if you ordered beforehand you won't get a free upgrade. Off to the Apple store I go...

  6. Apple envy by CCelebornn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The more I see of MacOS X and the more features they put in there, the more I realise just how slow devopment on the Windows platform is. Think of the progression thats been made from Apple, then compare that to Windows. The last great leap was done with Windows 2000 IMO: but even then for the desktop users there was nothing really knew.

    Spotlight, Dashboard & Automator all look like great additions. I know there are perhaps Windows alternatives, but can any of them claim to be as slick as Apples?

    I'm a Windows user, but as time goes on the thought of an mac mini just to give the OS a try becomes more and more tempting.

    1. Re:Apple envy by jdog1016 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't think that anyone is denying that Windows has improved over the last ten years, but the fact is, if you look at the features in Windows 95 (average user experience ten years ago) to the features in Windows XP (average user experience now), there really isn't any significant difference in terms of features and capabilities, at least as far as the average user can tell. And as for the improvements that have been made in usability, security, and overall stability, these aren't really improvements at all--they're bug fixes, issues that should have been resolved ten years ago. Now the same thing is happening again. Windows XP was released in 2001, and since then, no significant changes have been made, and as a result, the user experience is arguably worse than it was ten years ago, simply due to this ridiculous amount of unhindered malware.

      So, the problem with service packs is that they aren't real upgrades--they're just patches, bugfixes. A good example is the Windows Firewall--why wasn't it turned on in the first place? And yet Microsoft issuing a service pack to turn it on is an upgrade?

      Anyway, just my opinion.

  7. Re:I use x86 PC myself... by Golias · · Score: 5, Funny

    The complacency of the last five years is over.

    Now on with the complacency of the next five years!

    Enjoy your wait for Longhorn, the exclusive platform of Duke Nukem Forever. ;)

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  8. I just called too.... by kajoob · · Score: 5, Informative

    I ordered a mini last friday, so I just called and spoke to the Apple CSR. She said any mac purchased before the announcement won't ship with Tiger and she told me about the up to date program ($9.95) upgrade. HOWEVER, it did not take any arm twisting to get her to take $10 off the purchase price of the mini so it's like I'm getting Tiger for free. Give it a try...

    Apple Customer Service
    1-800-676-2775

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  9. Core Data by stang7423 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only one excited about the core data technology? In every write up of Tiger I have seen so far have not mentioned this new technology.

    I mean come on. It gives you save, undo and redo functionality for free, no extra coding. Plus if you make good use of cocoa bindings in interface builder you could build a complete simple application with out writing a single line of code manually. That is pretty freaking sweet.

    Maybe its just the geek in me but I think its cool. Plus you can save in multiple different file formats, binary, xml, or sqllite.

    More Here: http://developer.apple.com/macosx/tiger/coredata.h tml

  10. Re:Reviews? by Golias · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone have any reviews for Tiger on any hardware platform?

    Sure thing. Here you go:

    It's total shit on the Athlon XP 2500+. You can't even get it to boot up. Less functionality than either Linux or Windows.

    I hear it works much better on other platforms, specifically Apple-built PPC systems, but you will have to look at other reviews for that information.

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  11. Re:Please explain by Khakionion · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, I hate to present your trolling with these pesky facts, but Apple Automator will definitely help with improving productivity.

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  12. Liger by TheClassic · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd totally making the switch if it was named "Liger." It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.

  13. Re:Upgrade or clean install? by D'Arque+Bishop · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, you're in luck. Mac OS X (as of 10.2) came with an upgrade option called "Archive and Install". Basically, what it does is it takes your old system files, puts them in a special folder called "Previous System", and then loads a clean copy of the new OS. During this install you're given the option of saving all of your old settings.

    That's actually the method I used to upgrade my Powerbook from Jaguar to Panther, and it worked almost flawlessly. (The only issue was that my Palm HotSync Manager stopped working, but a reinstall of the Palm software fixed that.) I'd personally say it's the best way to cleanly upgrade your system and maintain your current settings.

    If you want more info on Archive and Install (as of Panther), just click here.

    Just my $.02...

  14. Re:Family Pack Still Exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A notification has been sent to the BSA that one Michael Brinkman of Hudson, MI is a known software pirate. Thank you for your honesty in helping to crush software piracy everywhere.

  15. Re:Reviews? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did you even try Intel? I hate AMD-fanboys on Slashdot.

  16. Re:Core Image/Core Audio by As+Seen+On+TV · · Score: 5, Informative

    Good God, are you ever not a graphics developer.

    I'm gonna make this fast because I'm sick of writing the same comment in every Tiger article. Core Image is Apple's implementation of hardware-accelerated 2D image processing. It's comparable to SGI's ImageVision Library, which you should look up right now.

    Core Audio is a hyperlow-latency audio-processing framework.

    Neither of these things is in any way related to Direct X, Open GL, or any form of 3D programming.

  17. Re:64-bit doesn't include graphics! by As+Seen+On+TV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're missing something massively important. The reason why we chose not to release 64-bit versions of the UI frameworks is that they run much slower than the 32-bit versions.

    User interface code is really pretty messy when you get right down to it. You're doing a lot of abstraction, moving a lot of pointers and integers around. On exactly the same G5-based computer, a 64-bit UI is going to run considerably slower than a 32-bit UI because of cache exhaustion. Because you're using pointers that are twice as big as you need them to be, you can only fit half as many of them in the various caches that are there to speed up your computer's performance. That effectively cuts your caches in half.

    So we had two choices: Either waste a ton of developer time releasing 64-bit-clean versions of the UI frameworks and then tell our developers not to use them, or just don't ship them at all.

    Believe me, the Final Cut Pro and Shake teams were pissed off about this. Their expectation was that they'd be able to release 64-bit versions of their applications by NAB. But a 64-bit version of FCP with 64-bit Pro Kit is less interactive than the 32-bit version on the same hardware, for very marginal gains in actual utility. FCP is already very good at making use of up to 2 GB of RAM when dealing with hundreds of gigabytes of data on disk; adding 64-bit support would have helped few and hindered many.

  18. Re:Adieu to Tray-Load iMacs by Secret+Agent+99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Careful with that "tray-loading" business: all iMac G4 models are tray-loading, and they're definitely supported.

  19. Re:I use x86 PC myself... by Ruprecht+the+Monkeyb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now on with the complacency of the next five years!

    That sounds too much like work. I think I'll just keep the old complacency.

  20. Re:Python GUI apps on the Mac by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 5, Funny

    APPLESCRIPT IS A NIGHMARE!!! I wish they would dump it for a usable OSS language like perl or python.

    If only there were a way to run Perl or Python on OS X...