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Improving the Windows XP User Interface?

Pimpin' Up Windows asks: "Many of us are forced to live with Windows XP for our day-to-day computing needs - at work, home or school - and longingly look to the not only beautiful, but functional and efficient, Mac OS X 'Aqua' user interface. Apart from just themes, what would be Slashdot reader's suggestions for improving the user interface of XP? What changes, add-ons and other improvements could further enhance its usability?"

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  1. Clippy. by Short+Circuit · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clippy. Or Bonzai Buddy. Take your pick. :)

  2. Win XP Power Toys by waynegoode · · Score: 5, Informative
    Win XP Power Toys, which is free.

    There are some good ones here. I like:

    • Open Command Window Here, opens a command prompt window at the path of the current window
    • Alt-Tab Replacement, see more when you use alt-tab to switch apps
    • Tweak UI, which does a lot of things
    • Virtual Desktop Manager, manage up to four desktops, a feature from others UIs that is missing in Windows
    1. Re:Win XP Power Toys by cgenman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The best desktop expansion you can do for windows is get additional monitors. Most video cards will allow you to plug in a second monitor, usually one analog and one DVI. A cheap DVI connector and a used monitor can be had for about 30 bucks. Add a cheap PCI secondary video card, Two DVI connectors, and three new monitors and you have all of the desktop that you'll ever need for about 150.

      I had pretty much constant problems with the multiple virtual desktop setup in XP, but the multiple monitor support in applications is pretty good these days.

  3. Start button doesn't stay in the bottom left by robolemon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of my biggest pet peeves is that if I make the Windows XP taskbar 2 rows tall instead of one, the start button only takes up the top row instead of spanning both or taking up the bottom row.

    This results in a spot underneath the start button that has no use. This also breaks the shortcut of clicking on the bottom left corner of the screen to access the start menu.

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    1. Re:Start button doesn't stay in the bottom left by Jherico · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Taskbar should be one row.
      No, the taskbar should be however the user feels more comfortable with it. I prefer two rows, with two quick launch toolbars on the left side, one for work apps, one for non-work apps.

      Say what you want about the Windows UI. In my opinion it is far better than the OS X UI, NOT because of its inherent functionalty, but because its far more customizable than the Mac UI. The Windows UI also does a passable job supporting keyboard shortcuts in a consistent way, and making more of the UI accessible from the keyboard.

      The Mac theory of UI seems to revolve around Apple knowing the right way to do something. But different people end up working with the UI in different ways. There's never just one right way to do a thing with something as complex as an application or an operating system.

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  4. Useability? by billh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Switch to classic mode
    Turn off menu delays
    Turn off every other stupid effect
    Install unix command line tools
    Never use IE or Outlook
    Install some decent fonts

    It might not be as pretty, but it is more functional.

    1. Re:Useability? by nickos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Install some decent fonts"

      I like to bash MS as well, but Georgia and (especially) Verdana are lovely (read more here). Verdana-Regular-8 is a great non-antialiased font that I use for everything (including coding).

      An aside - why do so many coders insist on using non-proportional fonts in their editor of choice (we've come a long way from text-mode displays)? Proportional fonts are more readable and take up less horizontal space on the screen. Try it!

  5. win XP needs a contextual helper... by xutopia · · Score: 4, Funny

    It would be cool if this helper would popup whenever you are doing something and show you ways to do things better. Oh and it could look like some smart guy too which would make it really cool!

  6. Want improvement in XP? Go back to Windows 2000 by LazloToth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Truly, if you're into function over form, the Win2K interface is far more refined than the prettier, but painfully illogical backwards step that became XP. I am amazed, yet not surprised, at the number of people who are barely competent enough to create a desktop icon, but manage to figure out how to return to the "classic" style. I hope the next Windows interface will be a return to crisp function and logical work flow.

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    1. Re:Want improvement in XP? Go back to Windows 2000 by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Truly, if you're into function over form, the Win2K interface is far more refined than the prettier, but painfully illogical backwards step that became XP. I am amazed, yet not surprised, at the number of people who are barely competent enough to create a desktop icon, but manage to figure out how to return to the "classic" style. I hope the next Windows interface will be a return to crisp function and logical work flow."

      Can you elaborate a little bit on what you mean by 'painfully illogical backwards step'? For basic folder stuff, etc, XP's not that much different. The difference is mostly cosmetic. The start menu is questionably better or worse, depending on how you drive. It's great if you use 10 apps requently, it's an extra step if you blow past that. The Control Panel... er... I have no idea what they were thinking with that, but you're a click away from bringing it back.

      Err okay I was just babbling for a moment. When you switch from XP's default to classic view, the main change to it is cosmetic, not functional. (Unless you can correct me on that, which I'd appreciate.) You still have your min/max/restore/and close Icons etc.

      In the mean time, what XP does offer you is the ability to lock the taskbar. That little feature suddenly makes the toolbar a far more interesting UI tool. There's actually a lot you can do down there, but I don't think most people bothered with a whole lot because you could accidently drag it and mess up the order of everything.

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  7. I've got an idea! by OmgTEHMATRICKS · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Make it NOT look like froofy pastel crap that makes people violently ill! That's a good first step.

    1. Re:I've got an idea! by skadus · · Score: 3, Informative

      A patched uxtheme.dll and about 2 or 3 minutes at DeviantArt will clear that right up.

      I agree, though. Luna and Royale look godawful. I'd love to see them recruit a better artist for some themes later on. Maybe they can make a cool Sci-Fi theme that looks like the one in Minority Report (just saw it this weekend, otherwise I'd think of a better movie/interface design).

    2. Re:I've got an idea! by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Make it NOT look like froofy pastel crap that makes people violently ill!"

      Err okay. The XP default scheme, though quite bold, is not pastel. (It's more like Fisher Price. :P)

      In all seriousness, it's not all that bad. I discovered that my biggest beef with that color scheme wasn't the colors used, but the wallpaper. I turned that black, and suddenly XP's interface isn't so bad. What's nice about it is that it's rather easy to tell which window is active or blinking. The difference between orange and blue is quite striking. Green is a nice highlight color as it has a decent contrast against blue.

      I can understand the screenshots not looking so appealing, but having used it for a while now, I actually kind of like it. (Especially after getting rid of that damn wallpaper.) I wish by default the titlebars were smaller, but their color choice is fine.

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  8. The task bar has more in it than you realize by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of my biggest usability changes in XP came from unlocking the taskbar and making effective use of the tabs inside it. No, I'm not just talking about Quicklaunch here. You can add different folders, including My Computer. For example, right now I have my drive letters exposed. I can right click on the C:\ drive and do a properties to get an idea of how much space I have left. I have two optical drives so at a glance I can see what discs are in there. (The name of the disc is put in place of the title.) I also have a 'shortcuts' folder I made (sort of like Quicklaunch) with a shortcut to that folder. Why is this useful? A.) it's easy to get at that folder so I can add remove stuff. B.) I'm constantly changing folders or files so I can quickly add stuff.

    In short, I've made effective use of shortcuts etc using the taskbar. I don't have to do near as much folder surfing. On top of all that, the interface is pretty simple provided you know to unlock it first.

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  9. Stop interrupting me! by fsck! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It shouldn't be possible for a dialog box, especially one from another application, to steal keyboard focus. It's bad enough that the dialogs are usually very poorly written. I was afraid of "sheets" the first time I heard about them in OSX, but that plus the bouncing dock icons really makes it a lot easier to focus on what I'm doing. The hundreds of little icons, sliding boxes and word ckouds in the system tray need to be completely rethought.

    Next I guess I would say that bitmapped icons should be dumped in favor of vector based ones for readability at higher resolution.

  10. Different themes are available... by WebHostingGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    XP Themes

    This site has a lot of window dressing (pun intended) to change the look and add a few items to XP to customize your interface.

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  11. Use the system, don't fight it. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you go installing a ton of crap on your Windows machine, then you won't learn how to use Windows on everyone else's machine, which works pretty damn well. Learn the system, and it's not too bad. It blew my mind once when Anand of Anandtech tried to claim that MacOS X had better keyboard shortcuts than Windows. I love MacOS, but Windows has keyboard accessibility completely nailed.

    What Microsoft has done:

    Windows-D hides all your apps.

    Windows-R brings up the run window.

    The only things I've changed:

    ctrl-alt-g puts focus in the Google Deskbar.

    The Google Deskbar is a part of a side-docked not always-on-top toolbar with my quicklaunch & desktop, with large icons that I can use like a dock. So no matter where I am, ctrl-alt-g gives me access to the stuff I don't want cluttering my taskbar.

    If it's always-on-top, then you can't use fitts the way that XP is designed for, which is fantastic.

    I'm pretty happy with the setup. My only complaint with Windows is that the text-editing shortcuts aren't the same as MacOS, so my fingers do all the wrong things when I'm typing on either system. Both operating systems have passable text-editing key commands, I just can't learn either one since they're different. If only they both had emacs-mode, I'd just learn it the emacs way.

    Anyway, here's a picture of how it works out for me on xp. That's what it looks like when I've popped up my toolbar with ctrl-alt-g.

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    1. Re:Use the system, don't fight it. by larien · · Score: 3, Informative
      Couple of others:

      Windows-E - bring up explorer window
      Windows-M - Minimise all windows (seems to be same as Windows-D which I didn't know about).

  12. Get rid of the annoying pop-ups by nick_danger · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It seems that Windows is always popping something up on the screen that forces the user to stop what they're doing to acknowledge before they can continue. And most of these pop-ups are totally meaningless. At times getting anything done with Windows is like playing a game of "Whack-a-mole".

    To be fair, not all of the annoying pop-ups come from Windows itself. Norton is really bad about popping up windows that say nothing more than "I'm here to completely interrupt your work to let you know that everything is just fine. Please click here to make me go away for a little while." However, it is a larger problem with WinXP if only because it's become an accepted practice among the software vendors.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong (wait -- this is Slashdot -- someone will correct me mercilessly if I'm wrong) but doesn't the Mac have pretty well defined UI guidelines that cover things like this?

  13. 2600 has already covered this by StarWynd · · Score: 3, Informative

    A while back there was an article in 2600 about how to "Hack the Look" of Windows. Take a look at the articles here and here.

  14. Re:thats all?? by TechnoPops · · Score: 4, Informative

    * it seems you can't modify the big shortcut buttons on the left hand side of the dialog to point somewhere useful.

    Download the TweakUI PowerToy. It let's you change those to whatever you like.

    * you can't directly type in the directory you want.

    Sure you can. Just put your cursor in the file name box and type away. It'll even autocomplete for you.

    * there is no way of entering a custom "filter by filetype" pattern. (eg. *.py)

    Ditto with this. Type *.py in the file name box, hit enter, and all your Python files will only show up.

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  15. Consistency and Integratioin. by mabinogi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The two things that people love to say is Windows' advantage are actually things they do really badly.

    Why can't I rename the recycle bin, when I can rename "My Computer", "Network Places" and "My Documents?"

    Why don't I have a "send to" context menu on items in a zip folder?
    In fact, why do zip files act nothing like regular folders at all when explorer presents them as if they are.

    Why do control panel items open up in a dialogue style menu, when you've navigated to them via a web style interface?

    Why does MS-Office _always_ have a totally different look and feel to any existing windows version at the time of its release?

    Why can't I open from and save to WebDav and ftp from any application?

    Why can I use windows networking paths (being able to "cd //servername/sharename") in cygwin of all things, but not in cmd.exe?
    I think they had to actually try to make that one not work, as fopen() in Windows will accept those paths.

    Microsoft loves to introduce an idea - and then not follow through with a complete and useful implementation, but they'll still use their half arsed useless implementation as an example of how innovative they are.
    Innovation is all very well, but it does you fuck all good if you have the worst implementation of your own idea.

    Windows could be an absolutely excellent environment if only Microsoft finished half of what they started.

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    1. Re:Consistency and Integratioin. by Jherico · · Score: 3, Informative
      In fact, why do zip files act nothing like regular folders at all when explorer presents them as if they are.
      Because zip folders are a new feature and aren't as polished as everything else.
      Why does MS-Office _always_ have a totally different look and feel to any existing windows version at the time of its release?
      Well, that's hardly a failing of the OS is it? But in point of fact, the release cycle of Office, arguably one of the most used applications on windows besides IE and games, allows the microsoft team to experiment with additional UI polishing efforts. You'll frequently notice the well recieved changes in Office finding their way in to the next version of Windows.
      Why can I use windows networking paths [...] not in cmd.exe?
      In point of fact you can. If I say 'copy \\server\share\foo.txt c:\' it will work fine, as long as I'm able to authenticate against that share. Granted, you can't change to a network directory unless you mount it somewhere, but I'm pretty sure that's the case on Mac and Unix as well.
      Microsoft loves to introduce an idea - and then not follow through with a complete and useful implementation,
      This is actually a common problem with developing features in software. You can make a feature, and you can decide its not popular enough to not warrant further effort, but got help you if you ever remove a feature. When you add a feature to software, keep that in mind, because somewhere out there, no matter how bad the feature is, will love it, use it, and scream bloody murder and never upgrade again if you remove it.
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  16. Mac OS is not so hot by pyrotic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    not only beautiful, but functional and efficient, Mac OS X 'Aqua' user interface

    Excuse me? Since when was rendering metalic textures for half your windows either efficient, or functional? OK, GPU might make it less inefficient, but it's hardly the simplest thing to render to a screen. And it gets worse when you try to work out WHY the windows are metal. Why is my web browser metal, but my FTP program not?

    And don't get me started on the "traffic lights" window closing buttons. Apple wrote the book on colourised user interfaces (Inside Macintosh), which they then ignored. They also had a good section in that book on Fitt's law, and how stuff in a fixed position at the edge of a screen is easiest to mouse to. So they stick the dock floating somewhere at the base of the screen, at variying positions depending on how many apps you have open. OK, expose is nice, font rendering is good, admin is less of a chore than with traditional unix, but I really wish they'd bothered reading their own guidelines from the 80s. Humans still only use 2 eyes and 1 mouse, it's not as though faster CPUs have rendered WIMP obsolete. Man, it almost makes me long for Motif.

  17. Taskbar default by r00k123 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The taskbar's default position should be on the left-hand side of the screen, not the bottom. Here's why:

    1. Having the bar at the bottom uses up vertical space, esp. when it's two units high or more. Reading stuff on a screen requires much more vertical space than horizontal. Moving the bar to the side frees up vertical space and results in less scrolling.

    2. You can fit WAY more quicklaunch buttons without affecting how much taskbar room you have for running programs. Quicklaunch buttons are a blessing and I can't live without em.

    3. You also get way more room for the hooks for running programs that show on the taskbar (can't think of a better way to describe them). They stack vertically and you can fit dozens more than when the taskbar is horizontal.

    Seriously, once you move the startbar to the side and get used to it, you'll keep it there forever. Give it a shot if you haven't tried it.

  18. Address bar in task bar. by knisa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One of the first things I do when I'm on a new 2000 or XP box is add the address bar to my task bar. (Right click on task bar | toolbars | Address). From there, you can type almost any command you like. I almost never use the start menu now; I just click into the address bar and type winword (or soffice -writer). You can also just type a URL to go directly to it, type c:\ to go straight to the root of c: in explorer, cmd to get a command prompt, or lusrmgr.msc to open user manager.

    I often use it while telnetting to network devices (go to address bar, type telnet 10.x.x.x). It really can't be beat, and nobody does it.

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  19. And on a related note by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Also check out the many useful tools available from SysInternals. These guys are serious Windows hackers and know how to integrate tightly with the internals. For general use, Process Explorer is a must-have replacement for task manager, and many of the others are useful if you're working in the areas they concern. And they give them away free, and a fair bit of source code too, bless them.

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  20. Re:What a wonderful troll of a subject. by zero_offset · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Despite which OS you've decided you like to use you really can't say that OS X isn't easier for a computer novice to use.

    Yeah, actually I can. I know two formerly-computer-averse "regular people" who couldn't manage to get much useful done under OS X on their shiny new Macs, but who rather quickly "got it" when I brought an XP laptop to them. Both have since ditched their Macs. As a bonus, they're much happier that their PC's are so relatively inexpensive.

    I'm not saying "TEH MAC SUX" or anything extreme like that, but the assumption of UI superiority has, in my opinion, never been proven with any especially compelling authority. It is my opinion that the Mac superiority thing is primarily a result of very careful MARKETING efforts.

    The Mac isn't bad, but it isn't a miraculous plateau of UI wisdom, either.

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