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Slashback: Pie, Election, Alarm

Slashback this evening with another batch of updates and responses to previous Slashdot posts, including: how Firefox users can avoid post-cookie Web tracking (for now), more on open-source graphics drivers, and an alarm clock that sounds perfect for annoying a spouse. Read on for the details.

Does he feel like Reese Witherspoon? Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier writes "After many years of trying, Branden Robinson has finally won the Debian Project Leader election. Linux Magazine has an in-depth interview with Robinson about his plans as DPL, the problems that face Debian, and what it's like to finally win the election."

(We mentioned Robinson's election a few days ago.)

In lieu of perfection, fixability is a good start. gyardley writes "After discovering that a company called United Virtualities was making use of Flash's Local Shared Objects to silently restore my deleted cookies, I decided to combat this marketer behavior with a Firefox extension.

Objection 0.1 adds a 'Local Shared Objects' line to Firefox's Options > Privacy panel, allowing you to delete them as easily as you'd delete cookies. It's still pretty rudimentary - all or nothing deletion, working on Windows only - but Slashdotters are more than welcome to improve it. Since Local Shared Objects have the same functionality as cookies, we need the same amount of control over them as we do over cookies - and built into the browser, not tucked away in some obscure Macromedia page."

Sure, come on in, there's still some punch and snacks left, I think. orv writes "The Unichrome project has issued a response to VIA's recent open source announcement covered on Slashdot.

The response (and further comment) clarifies the current Unichrome driver situation and whilst welcoming VIA's move suggests that VIA should become more involved in existing open source projects rather than simply issuing repeated grand sounding press releases. The Unichrome project has provided and supported a full open source driver, including MPEG support, for the Unichrome and Unichrome Pro chipsets for the past two years."

But this implies that 'perky' is the desired state. dhalsim2 writes "Yahoo reports of a Smart Alarm Clock Set for Perky Wakeups. On the heels of Clocky comes this new alarm clock that will monitor a sleeper's brain waves to determine the best time to wake him up. The device uses a microprocessor within a headband that wirelessly transmits brainwaves to the clock. When the person is in a light sleep and is likely to wake up 'perky,' the alarm will go off. Brain wave monitoring? Sounds a lot like Plankton's Plan Z."

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  1. Smart Alarm Clock for Perky Wakeups by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 4, Funny

    on the heels of this, comes news of a Smart Alarm Clock for Perky Wakeups ...

    Yes, but make sure you don't get the Darth Vader edition of the Smart Alarm Clock for Perky Wakeups.

    That one not only reads your brain waves, but instead of adjusting itself to help you, it uses the dark side of alarm clock force to ring just a little bit too much ... and then on alternate Tuesdays it doesn't wake you up at all and laughs in an evil way when you finally regain conciousness ... plus it always broadcasts CNN.

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    1. Re:Smart Alarm Clock for Perky Wakeups by swimin · · Score: 3, Funny

      The reality is far worse, it tunes into Fox news, and if that can't be found,it randomly chooses between NPR, and NOAA weather radio.

  2. Broken Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The unichrome link is broken:

    http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/

  3. The whole PIE thing really bugs me by jessmeister · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have blogged on this repeatedly and even mentioned a good article which should give some perspective on this whole cookie question. Its not that cookies are such a bad thing when used correctly. Some people dont want to use them and thats fine. For them let them log in repeatedly and see ads that arent relevant or contextual to what they have been doing or watching. Coming up with another way of tracking users isnt the problem. The problem is that users are scared of the tracking. Educate the masses on the benefits and advertisers would see positive results. Who knows maybe they wouldnt have to resort to making ever more annoying advertisements just to try and snare my attention.

    1. Re:The whole PIE thing really bugs me by An+Ominous+Cow+Erred · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's just I really DON'T want people knowing I spend 40% of my time on slashdot. I don't have a reason in particular, I just DON'T. I place a significant value on NOT having information about be spread willy nilly everwhere.

      Regarding Javascript, I REALLY don't like the idea of my browser automatically running code that someone else has written without me having the chance to check it out first. I don't think javascript is evil as a language, I just don't like the idea of going to a website and blindly running code from there. I don't care that it's in a sandbox -- all it takes is one exploit for the code to break its way out of the sandbox and boom. (And hopefully I'm running Linux and the developer is too focused on Win32 for his payload to do anything once it's out of javascriptland, but you never know.)

      Seriously, I'm never going to put instant, blind trust in anything online until I've checked it out first, and even then on general principles I won't enable cookies or jscript unless there's a compelling reason to do so.

      (3 the session-only feature in Moz browsers) =D

    2. Re:The whole PIE thing really bugs me by jessmeister · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is no way that a cookie is relaying your email information. They only way a site can even look at a cookie is if they set it. Otherwise its a no go. The only way a cookie could contain your email address is you gave it previously to that site. In which case thats the source of your spam

    3. Re:The whole PIE thing really bugs me by NickFortune · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Its not that cookies are such a bad thing when used correctly
      Bad for whom?
      Educate the masses on the benefits and advertisers would see positive results. Who knows maybe they wouldnt have to resort to making ever more annoying advertisements just to try and snare my attention.
      And no doubt spammers worldwide would suddenly see the errors of their ways and spam no more, give that targetted ads driven by tracking cookies were suddenly so effective...

      I'm sorry, I can't see it. Advertising is not an industry known for it's string ethical stance, and let's face it, such plagues as popups and flash ads were rife long before most people started disabling cookies.

      Logging in isn't such a big problem. I allow session cookies where they have a clear and useful purpose, so I only have to click that button once or twice a day.

      And besides which, my surfing habits are none of their business.

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  4. Just what we need by Alien54 · · Score: 4, Funny
    An alarm clock that transmits our dreams to the FBI. Or let's the FBI sends it's dreams to us.

    But If I wore my tin foil hat, it would be kind of counter productive ....

    Wouldn't it?

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    1. Re:Just what we need by RevDobbs · · Score: 3, Interesting

      FWIW, I know that I feel much better after four hours of sleep than I do after six; I always assumed that the reason the extra sleep left me groggy was that I was being jarred awake from deep sleep (details here). I find sleep fascinating, and always enjoy reading the disussions on it -- especially on how to get the most out of it. It seems like quite a safe tuning parameter to optimize, and a lot easier to get into than nootropics.

      I gladly, and with out hesitation, welcome our brain-monitoring alarm clock overlords.

    2. Re:Just what we need by artifex2004 · · Score: 3, Funny
      An alarm clock that transmits our dreams to the FBI. Or let's the FBI sends it's dreams to us.

      But If I wore my tin foil hat, it would be kind of counter productive ....

      Wouldn't it?


      That's why you should be sleeping in a Faraday Cage, of course. Problem solved.
  5. Wakeup watch... by Polo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's already a watch that helps you wake up at the "optimal" time:

    http://www.sleeptracker.com/

    1. Re:Wakeup watch... by jacobcaz · · Score: 3, Interesting
      • Do you know if that works?
        Looks interesting - If I'm not woken during a light sleep-phase I am completely wasted myself, it would be nice to have something to help ;)
      It actually does work really well. I bought one (read about my experience here on my blog).

      It does sense when I'm mostly awake and starts beeping which fully wakes me up. I'ts still an exercise to pull myself out of the soft, warm, fluffy bed at 6:30 in the morning. Goddamn corporate job, sucking the life right out of me!

  6. Morning Wood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    When the person is in a light sleep and is likely to wake up 'perky,' the alarm will go off.

    Hardware hack, anyone?

  7. Firefox and cookies by ad0gg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Firefox needs to disable third party cookies by default. There's no reason why images/iframes from other(3rd party) domains should be allowed to set cookies. I don't see any reason why 3rd party cookies should be allowed, they are frequently abused and used as web bugs that track your web browsing from site to site.

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  8. Re:Uhhhh by Sparr0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The device monitors how deeply you are sleeping, if you are dreaming, etc. If you are woken up when you are sleeping lightly you are likely to wake up quickly, but if your alarm interrupts a dream you tend to wake up slowly and more tired. Have you ever woken up early and felt ready to go, but felt like sleeping til your alarm goes off... then when it does you feel tired? This prevents that by picking a time close to your target wakeup time (but before your cutoff time) when you are the least likely to wake up tired.

  9. Slashbacks really need a tag line by Eradicator2k3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Something along the lines of:

    Slashback: Because you enjoyed these articles the first TWO times around.
    or
    Slashback: The nice way to say DUPE!!!
    or
    Slashback: This time we realized we've duped a story before we posted it.

    OTOH, what's to prevent unscrupulous editors from going back and editing the topic from Linux, YRO, etc. to Slashback in an attempt to cover their butts?

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  10. Cookie Madness by shirai · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm probably not the first one who's thought of this but it seems to me that cookie abuse could be reduced dramatically without affecting most websites by doing the following:

    "Disable cookies on all images that are being pulled from another domain."

    That is, if a web page grabs an image from another domain (a banner, pixel, etc.) then pull it but don't send any of the cookie information for that image.

    I mean isn't that the way that most developers track access across websites? You put a one-pixel image and set the cookie through there. Then by reading the http_refer, you know where they've been and associate it to a single user. To track across sites though, this pixel is usually on a separate domain than the site being accessed.

    By the way, I originally thought to disable cookies on all images but realized some servers may do security checking via cookies before sending an image. But there is very little legitimate use for sending cookies on images that are outside the domain.

    Also, the same could be said of ANYTHING that is pulled off a different domain including scripts, css, etc. If it is on the same domain, send the cookies. If not, then make the request but don't send the cookies.

    I would say precious few sites would depend on this behavior and it shouldn't break anything except for the tracking (which we want to break). Not saying that a site couldn't be made to break on this but I can't think of many reasons why a site would.

    By the way, I think cookies are great for the most part. SlashDot uses them, I use them, anything with a login (mostly) uses them. I find it humorous when people insist that cookies are evil and you shouldn't have a single one. You can just as easily fake a cookie for a session by sticking an ID in the URL which, personally, I think is worse. Now your personally identifying tracker is available for all to see.

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  11. Best. Alarm Clock. Ever! by Indy+Media+Watch · · Score: 4, Informative

    Clocky is a clock for people who have trouble getting out of bed. When the snooze bar is pressed, Clocky rolls off the table and finds a hiding spot, a new one every day.

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    Indy Media Watch-Proctologist of the Internet

  12. Re:I don't want "perky." by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 5, Funny
    >> I just want a clock that'll make my wife wake up non-grouchy. I'm sure there's a huge market for this device.

    Why? How many different people have to worry about your wife waking up grouchy? :P

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  13. Alarm clocks by Sir+Holo · · Score: 3, Informative


    This may beat the 90-minute rule.

    Sleep cycles are about 90 minutes long, so setting the alarm at a 90-minute interval from when you fall asleep will make it more likely that you'll wake up on the high side of sleep, and more likely that you'll feel refreshed. The rule fails if something disturbs your sleep pattern, though, which is where this device (if it exists) would be better.

  14. Flash bypassing cookie protections by mckyj57 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Objection 0.1 adds a 'Local Shared Objects' line to Firefox's Options > Privacy panel, allowing you to delete them as easily as you'd delete cookies. It's still pretty rudimentary - all or nothing deletion, working on Windows only - but Slashdotters are more than welcome to improve it. Since Local Shared Objects have the same functionality as cookies, we need the same amount of control over them as we do over cookies - and built into the browser, not tucked away in some obscure Macromedia page."


    I find it easier just to use the Flashblock extension. In the (very rare) event I need to run a Flash display, I just click the play button.