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WSJ's Online Subscriptions Outperform Print

ScentCone writes "The New York Post is reporting that the Wall Street Journal's parent company, Dow Jones, is doing much better with its online publication than with print. Online subscribers pay $84/year, whereas print subscribers are still paying $356... and the profit on the online business is 20 times that of the paper flavor." From the article: "'They're simply losing market share to other media. Print publishing is not a profitable business for Dow Jones anymore,' said Feinseth. Kann is hoping that the company's long-range growth also comes in online publishing, which has profit margins at least 20-fold higher than print. The Wall Street Journal Online is signing up thousands of new subscribers, up 5.2 percent for the quarter, to a total of 731,000."

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  1. The real news by stecoop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real information gathered from the story is that consumers buying Wall Street Journal online are paying 20 times too much. They should be paying $4.20 a year.

    At least competition will help as if there is so much money in something then everyone will be doing it.

    1. Re:The real news by OECD · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Online subscribers pay $84/year, whereas print subscribers are still paying $356...

      So why the hell don't they throw in online access when you pay for the dead tree version? They'd be more likely to pick up some of the online subscribers as print customers, and it would make the current print subscribers feel like they're getting more value for their bucks.

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    2. Re:The real news by Karma+Farmer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They should be paying $4.20 a year.

      Could you tell me how you got that out of the article?

      A buck a day for the WSJ sounds pretty damned cheap to me -- have you ever read it?

    3. Re:The real news by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The real information gathered from the story is that consumers buying Wall Street Journal online are paying 20 times too much.

      Never mind that the paper version is losing them money, so making more profit than the losing part of the operation isn't, by itself, necessarily all that fabuluous.

      But the real news in your comment is that you don't think someone should make any more profit than you think they should. What is the correct profit margin for each type of business, taking into account seasonal variability, changing competition, evolving technology, company reputation, and all of the other variables that impact each business model? Do you have a table, or set of guidelines? How often do you update it, and based on what criteria?

      I have an idea. How about: the WSJ has competition, and if any of it is as good or better, and charges less, then people will spend their money there, instead. Or, regardless of what the WSJ costs, if people don't think it's worth it, they can just stop subscribing. It's almost like the market adjusts the price! *sigh*

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    4. Re:The real news by Ingolfke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the profit on the online business is 20 times that of the paper flavor

      You should try reading the WSJ sometime you might learn something about business fundamentals and economics. The PROFIT is NOT equal to the cost to the subscriber. All that is being said is that the online version makes 20x more profit than the paper version. So if the paper version makes $.10 per year of profit per customer, the online version is making $2.00 of profit per customer.

    5. Re:The real news by stecoop · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Could you tell me how you got that (sic 4.20 per year) out of the article?

      Come-on now I don't have an MBA it is simple math though....

      All right I'll explain, just from the article text:
      Wall Street Journal is in the news reporting business; therefore, can be used as a simple benchmark for profitability in the line of business.

      The comparison between print and online is that the print is making a given profit and the online is making a given profit. They are in the same business yet the online is making 20 times the profit of print. Take the online subscription fee of $84 per year / 20 times the profit = $4.20 per year is the expected price for subscriptions.

      If you wanted to compete, I suspect that you could charge $4.20 per year and be competitive. Therefore, there will be a lot of online news reporting sources in the future that will drive competition to the $4.20 mark.

    6. Re:The real news by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not sure how much the WSJ costs on the newsstand, but it doesn't seem like they are giving avid readers much of a break. assuming it's a daily, that's about $1 an issue, which is the same price most large newspapers cost on the newsstand. I would assume you'd get some kind of deal.

      I get MacLean's, a weekely Canadian news magazine. It costs $58 a year for a subscription. News stand price is about $99. They give subscribers better rates because they know they will buy every issue, they already have. With people who get it off the newsstand, they don't buy every issue. They should really account for that.

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    7. Re:The real news by Ingolfke · · Score: 5, Informative

      For all of those of you out there who missed the satire here (oh gosh I hope it's satire) please read.

      They are in the same business yet the online is making 20 times the profit of print. Take the online subscription fee of $84 per year / 20 times the profit = $4.20 per year is the expected price for subscriptions.

      Notice that what is being done is that the total revenue per subscriber is being divided by the profit ratio. This makes no sense. That $84 per customer per year is used to pay for the infrastructure, staff, etc. to provide the service. Let's say that $80 per customer per subscriber. That leaves $4 in profit. Which would mean that the paper version makes $.20 per subscriber per year. My point is not the exact numbers, but that the basic mathematics used is WRONG! You cannot divide revenue by a profit comparison ratio and come up with a meaningful subscriber cost.

    8. Re:The real news by HMA2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We don't know what the cost of either the print or the web editions are. We do know the price.

      If the cost of the print edition is $355 and the cost of the web edition is $64 (both cost figures amortized over the size of the subscriber base) then the profit is 20 times. (profit of $1 and $20 respectively)

      Another solution could be the print edition costs $354 and the web edition cost $44 ($2 and $40)

      In other words, we don't have enough information to determine where a parity will be reached.

    9. Re:The real news by wfberg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Come-on now I don't have an MBA it is simple math though....

      Apparently there still is a need for business school..

      Just because the profit is 20x the profit of the offline version, that doesn't mean their costs are 1/20th. Assuming the profit on the offline version is 4%, the profit on the online version would be 80%, so the cost would be $16.80 -- a lot more than $4.20!

      Of course, this doesn't necessarily reflect the true cost of the online version too well - I doubt that they're expensing the costs of articles that are written for the paper version and republished online at reasonable prices; i.e. if the paper WSJ wouldn't exist, the online version couldn't copy their articles.

      So, yes, it would appear that the online version is doing well, though you'd have to look into what they're paying for their shared content to know just exactly how well.

      But if they were selling the same amount of subscriptions at $4.20 a year they'd be making huge losses.

      Of course at $4.20 a year they'd sell more subscriptions, but whether that would still make a profit remains to be seen.

      So I'm afraid your simple math didn't quite cut it..

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    10. Re:The real news by nelsonal · · Score: 2

      The author of the article is incorrect, WSJ.com is not the primary generator of revenue or income of electronic publishing, they don't make money on the electronic version of their newspaper. They make tons of money on their DJ newswire services and index services (which have effectivly zero current costs). Newswire services are news terminals similar to Reuters or Bloomberg terminals that probably rent for several thousand dollars annually. You can dig up the numbers in their quarterly releases.

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    11. Re:The real news by Karma+Farmer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Notice that what is being done is that the total revenue per subscriber is being divided by the profit ratio. This makes no sense.

      Why would a wookie, an eight foot tall wookie, want to live on Endor with a bunch of two foot tall ewoks? That does not make sense!

  2. Paper is archaic... by tquinlan · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...and I would much rather read things online. Hell, I'd even pay for a well formatted paper to read on my Treo. But it just seems so archaic to watch all the people on the train in the morning attempt to fold their papers and still read while not disturbing the people they're crammed up against.

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    1. Re:Paper is archaic... by Guardian+Hacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Paper may be archaic, but I already spend enough of my day in front of a computer. I personally like to be able to read the hard copy.

      Beyond less strain on the ol' peepers, it's nice to be able to get away from the computer. With the online version, it might not be DRMed, but I certainly can't easily take it with me wherever I go (sure, I can print things out, but that format is still less than ideal for me).

      I agree that the online version might be great for some, but I'm not one of those people. And I've tried NewsStand and Zinio as well as the online versions of many papers.

      Beyond what I've mentioned already... For my taste, the screen is too small a device for the display of articles. With a paper, I might have to turn a page once or twice.... with NewsStand and Zinio I found myself doing a constant 'pan and scan'. Online articles required too much scrolling and clicking of 'next'.

      I'll stick with the dead tree format (I recycle, mind you), but agree that a paper specifically formatted for display on-screen might be a good thing.

    2. Re:Paper is archaic... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I mean who would want a permanant record that can last for thousands of years and can still be read even if it becomes stained and worn unlike a CD?

      Newspaper will *not* last thousands of years without proper archival procedures. Even trying to get them to last more than a hundred years can be problematic, thus the practice of transcribing them to microfilm. Even books wouldn't last as long as they do if it wasn't common practice to put them in long term storage. (i.e. A library shelf in a cool, dry place.)

      In all reality, we're probably leaving far better records in the form of optical plastic disks than we are in newspaper. I just get a kick out of how many AOL CDs historians will have to sort through!

    3. Re:Paper is archaic... by hungrygrue · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Negative. Even if equipment existed to read that AOL cd in 20 years, let alone 200 years, it would be useless as corrosion makes them useless. You won't be able to read ANY cd that is 20 years old. Magnetic media is completely useless. tapes, disks, etc. must be turned on a regular basis to keep the earth's magnetic field from erasing them if they are stuck on a shelf in an archive. Even that is only a delay, the data must be rewritten eventually or it will be lost anyway. File formats are another challenge. with the exception of simple plain text documents, it will be nearly impossible to decode and make since of anything on that snazzy hard drive of yours. In 200 years, no one will be able to make since of a jpg or png, and these are well known and well understood formats. Data in proptiatary formats will be utterly useless in a much shorter time.

    4. Re:Paper is archaic... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even if equipment existed to read that AOL cd in 20 years, let alone 200 years,

      You underestimate how clever people can be. Even if the equipment doesn't exist, I have little doubt that they'll figure out how the CDs work and build new equipment. From there they'll attempt a cryptographic analysis on the data to decode the ASCII character scheme. Once enough ASCII data is retrieved, they'll have enough information to tackle the binary data. So on and so forth. The retrieval won't get everything, but they will manage to recover a LOT of data.

      it would be useless as corrosion makes them useless.

      Nonsense. Corrosion makes a CD useless for regular purposes. It does NOT make the CD completely unreadable, nor does the entire surface disappear at once. Some of the data will survive on corroded CDs, and some CDs will probably avoid corrosion all together. Remember that pressed CDs (especially the earlier CDs in the 90's) hold together far better than their burnable counterparts.

  3. First of Many... by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's only a short while til the NY Times, The Washington Post and other first-tier newspapers start charging for content. The only issue is which one will be first....

    1. Re:First of Many... by jbolden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Almost all the "first-tier" papers tried charging for content. The WSJ was the only one that was succesful. The reason is that WSJ has original content that no one else has while the other papers are all getting their news from wire services and government briefings so they all had the same stuff. The NYTimes of the 1950s which has a large international staff (and thus plenty of original international content) probably could have had a pay website. The NYTimes today doesn't have anything all that important to say.

  4. White and (depends on screen) and read all over? by Leontes · · Score: 5, Informative

    This makes sense to me, especially when you are dealing with the chaotic and capricious world of finance. It's nice to have a paper with you, sure, but with the ever changing world of business, you need to have now headlines now, and yesterday's news may be obsolete by the time it gets to your door.

  5. End of Paper Publications? by Flywheels+of+Fire · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Long ago, when computers were as big as houses, and magazines were, well, 11x8, people still read magazines on paper.

    But now that your average PDA is small than the magazine, and you can get the latest news online, not to save the number of trees you save, there's not really a justification for having paper publication of periodicals.

    But I still prefer reading my books on paper. And most people I know feel the same.

  6. I wonder. . . . by jluebke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How many people (like me) do both. Existing print subscribers can add the online service for $39 per year. I prefer to do most of my reading from the print version, but the interactivity of the online is also frequently useful....

  7. Fudgy numbers by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Harldly anyone subscribes to print newspapers, the days of the paperboy chucking the sunday edition into your rosebush or onto your roof have been gone for a long while.

    People just pick it up when they stop to get gas/smokes/coffee/whatever, or just read the copy lying there on the subway, etc..

    This doesn't take those kind of numbers into account. That is, this isnt saying more people read WSJ online than they do in print.

    If I were to guess, I'd say most would prefer to read dead-tree material than read a computer or PDA screen. It's just so much more comfortable for the eyes, and easier to take to the john.

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    1. Re:Fudgy numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Harldly anyone subscribes to print newspapers, the days of the paperboy chucking the sunday edition into your rosebush or onto your roof have been gone for a long while.
      Yeah tell that to the paperboy that delivers to my building. The damn kid is too lazy to walk down the hall of my complex, so he just throws the papers at the doors, at 4 in the morning. Wham, wham, wham. It makes me feel guilty for enjoying the videogame Paperboy so much as a kid.
    2. Re:Fudgy numbers by syphax · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It always interests me when folks generalize their personal experiences and observations into "almost everyone/hardly anyone...".

      My experience in suburbia is that plenty of people still get print newspapers delivered. But when I lived in a city, not so much. I'm guessing the parent lives in an urban area...

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    3. Re:Fudgy numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      or just read the copy lying there on the subway,

      That's stealing!!!!!!!

      They should be find $150,000, jailed for 15 years, and sacrifice their first born to the JIAA. Lowlife pirates!

      Won't someone think of the typesetters?!?!?!

  8. Good for them, good for us by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The more publications go online successfully, the more demand there will be for ebooks and other portable reading devices, the quicker we'll finally get usable cheap ebooks.

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    1. Re:Good for them, good for us by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Project Gutenberg isn't cheap enough for you?

      If you're someone who likes reading, there's so much more good stuff in there than you're likely to find on the bestsellers rack at B&N.

      I'm not necessarily a "newer is better" type of person. I tend to like old movies, classic novels, and NES games. I'd rather read Dickens than Stephen King, and happen to think that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote much better mysteries than Dan Brown (DaVinci code was IMO formulaic drek, why all the hype?)

      YMMV

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    2. Re:Good for them, good for us by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      not a chance in hell.

      until the publishers accept a OPEN ebook format and standard it will never happen.

      if I cant read that ebook I bought 5 years ago on the PDA I will purchase in 6 years it will fail horribly.

      unrealistic you say? i'll remember that the next time I read a book that is over 10 years old.

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  9. Don't forget medium costs by aendeuryu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And that's only the subscriptions. Never mind the medium costs. Print costs are really expensive. Maybe some other Slashdotters would have better statistics available at hand, but I remember doing a print run of 1000 copies of a magazine with 32 pages in it for about $1000 (cdn). These days you can get free online webpages that'll handle bandwidth that matches that kind of distribution, whereas paper and ink costs haven't gone down all that much in the past few years.

  10. From a WSJ reader. by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 3, Interesting
    ... consumers buying Wall Street Journal online are paying 20 times too much.

    It would seem that way, wouldn't it? But the reporting and writing that paper does is superior to just about everyone else. I'm willing to pay the amount they're demanding. Am I stupid? Maybe. But I think the other alternatives are definately not worth their price.
    And I'd lik to add that I pay the newstand price ($1) because the WSJ is a data whore. When I did subscribe to them, my junk mail increased about three fold.

  11. sounds like a deal, right? by Whafro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All of these publications make their bank by overpricing their products to make even ripoff prices sound like a great deal. After all, why would any magazine give you a year's subscription for eighty or ninety percent below the cover price? Jack up the price on the cover so people think they're getting an amazing deal on a subscription while you still bring in large profits.

    This is just the next extension. You think you're getting a great deal with your print subscription? How about an online subscription for even MORE savings?

    I think that these online publications and their pricing schemes are only as successful as they are because they have such precedent as being a pricey product. It's why CD's are still $15, why purchasing digital music is around a buck a track, and why people buy books on amazon thinking that their 10% discount is amazing.

    1. Re:sounds like a deal, right? by jbolden · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The WSJ unlike most newspapers today still does a lot of its own research in detail. They have a large staff and they give them the time to turn out quality articles. Further the cost of distribution is high. Even in affluent neighborhoods a small percentage of the people want a speciality newspaper.

      The WSJ costs a lot because its much more expensive to produce than your average newspaper. I'm glad they are making money they produce a quality product and they deserve it (with the exception of the editorial page which is junk).

    2. Re:sounds like a deal, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's the problem with the argument that "50% off the cover price!" subscriptions means the cover price is a ripoff.

      Printing is expensive. And there's zero resale market--unlike an unsold copy of a book (which you can potentially sell later), magazines and newspapers have a clear expiration date--when the next one comes out. Which means printing exactly the right amount of things is tricky--print too many, and you waste money. Print too few, and you lose sales.

      If I'm running Sports Illustrated, and I am printing a copy for a known and paid subscriber, that very low risk--I know this copy will be sold, I know I can distribute it by mailing it direct from my printing facility (no need to ship it somewhere else first), I know I will be paid, and I know that there's no middle man taking a cut (the price I sell for is the price you pay).

      If I'm printing for retail distribution, things are different. I need to ship the magazines to resellers. I have to sell to those resellers at less than the final "cover" price--otherwise the reseller doesn't make any money (so I make LESS than you pay for the magazine). I also have to price in the risk of the magainzes not selling--I will probably print more than I think "average" sales will be so I'm covered if there's unuaully high demand for this issue, so I'm expecting to take some level of losses for unsold inventory.

      By cutting out the middle man, cutting the distribution costs, and by removing the risk/waste factor from pricing, I don't think it's unreasonable to think that subscription prices reasonably should be fairly substantially below the cover prices.

  12. Expenses by Stormcrow309 · · Score: 3, Informative

    In relative expenses, print is so much more Capital Intensive compared to On-line. Not only that, but the turn-around required to post a story is faster with web-based publishing. Most economic projections show that charging 50% less for a yearly subscription for significantly faster news response is over 200% more profitable when going to a web-based readership.

    They should offer a paid service for stories over 2 months old and delay stories by 15 minutes to an hour for non-subscribers. In addition, have specialized content for subscribers. With no required signup to see the free content, they would encourage people to check out the site. I believe they would end up with a decent return on investment.

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    1. Re:Expenses by heli0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      "They should offer a paid service for stories over 2 months old"

      They already do.

      From WSJ.com
      "Articles dating back up to 30 days are free; older articles are $2.95 each. "

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  13. Bean counters to the rescue! by Pac · · Score: 3, Funny

    As soon as the accountants and investment people see this, this wierd situation will be solved by their golden goose killing habits.

    Their first thought will be "Let's raise the online subscription to $356, so our online profit will almost 100 times the paper profit!!".

    Their second thought will be "This online thing was a passing fad anyway".

  14. Ad revenue is key by krygny · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Circulation (i.e., dead-tree distribution) is expensive and most pubs do it at a loss, or at best break-even, based on the full cover price. But ad revenue is much higher for print than on line. An ad in the paper is much more likely to reach the target, hence costs more and is more worth it. An on line ad may be exposed to more eyeballs, but they are filtered by the frontal cortex.

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  15. Re:two different types of papers by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    subscribers are able to deduct the price from their taxes as a business expense

    So? That doesn't make it free. It just offsets their income by a little bit, and they pay just a little bit less in taxes. It's still a net cost to the subscriber.

    The reason people pay for it is because they find it directly (and often immediately - that day) useful to their business and investment decision making, and that pays back hugely in excess of the cost.

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  16. Re:Quantity is the Quality of the Digital Age by jfengel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A good lesson for them to learn, though I would point out that the WSJ differential is 4, not 10. My guess is they wouldn't sell twice as many subscriptions at half the price. Still, that would put the price of an album on iTunes at $3-$4, not $10.

    Even at that I'm not convinced that it would hold for the *AAs. The WSJ has a targeted, affluent market that would pay for convenience and timeliness. People don't share WSJ articles on P2P networks because not enough people want them, and those who do are more willing to pay for them. I'm sure there's a lot of cut-and-paste forwarding, and I wonder how much that cuts into sales. Perhaps some of those forwardees end up subscribing, because with news, timelineness is of the essense. P2P songs, on the other hand, will wait for a bit, and many of those downloads don't turn into album sales.

    But we're discussing sales, not P2P, and the *AAs are already doing that in several venues, via iTunes and Real and Microsoft.

    I do wonder about the numbers in the article. Are the costs of news gathering divided between the online and print editions? No matter what you do it still costs money to gather news and advertise your product. If the online sales get "free" content from the print division then their profitability numbers are dubious.

  17. They make a killing on licensing too by jesseraf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I worked for a small company, where we were profiled in WSJ. This was quite a big deal since our company consisted only of 5 employees at the time. We wanted to put the article on our website. WSJ informed us, licensing the article was about $500/mo. Seems kind of high since the article was already written, and we weren't reselling the article.

    Nevertheless, we paid it for several months.

  18. Subscription price is wrong by kajoob · · Score: 3, Informative

    Online subscribers pay $84/year, whereas print subscribers are still paying $356

    The WSJ only costs you $356 if you buy it from the newstand every day. Don't do that. In fact, you can get a year of the print AND online versions for only slightly more than the online versions. Check here for a $99/year deal. (referral-free link).

    What I like about the WSJ is that, unlike in most papers where fact and opinion are combined through out all the news articles, the WSJ is pretty much straight facts in the articles and the opinions are relegated to the Opinion section. Don't get me wrong, I like reading the Opinion section but when it comes to news reporting, just the facts ma'am!

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  19. The real money in newspapers... by jokestress · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...is advertising. Subscriptions for most major print newspapers are usually about 25% of the revenue. 75% comes from the ads. Paper versions have to strike a fine balance: keeping prices at a point where they are maximizing subscribers, the number and demographics of whom their ad rates get set. Production and distribution costs for a print paper take an enormous toll on their profit margins. Market forces will eventually drive large newspapers to non-paper versions. It's just a matter of time.

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  20. Isn't the e-Version nearly free to produce? by tomme_gun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's talk of how the e-WSJ is much cheaper to produce (no trees killed, no drivers to deliver it, etc.), but go into any bathroom at any brokerage firm and the stalls are littered with copies of it. The hard version makes the copy version cheap to produce because they already have the infrastructure available to easily produce it online. There aren't many web-only publication names that we trust, yet. The old school names legitimize the new school medium (WSJ, NY Times, Wash Post, AP vs. DrudgeReport). I'd be interested to see how accounting divides up the costs of reporters, editors, phones, office space, etc. between old and new media.

  21. Re:Quantity is the Quality of the Digital Age by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A good lesson for the *AA: cut your prices by 10, sell your stuff online, and you'll make more profit than before

    Though just like with music, that won't make it any cheaper for the WSJ to actually gather and edit what it is they sell. So the lesson should be the other way around: the WSJ should be watching how quickly a popular bit-based info-product can get turned into a pirated, not-payed-for file that's passed around between thousands or millions of anonymous "friends."

    Obviously people have been e-mailing snippets of paid-for WJS online content to their business friends since the day they went online. Because of the half-life of the information, that probably did a lot to encourage new subscribers. But in the sense that people can use back-issues of WSJ for research, they're probably spending a lot of time thinking of how to keep their intellectual output paid for. I suppose the good news for them is that it's (so far) mostly text, and it's real easy for bots to find that stuff infringed-upon on blogs, rss feeds, etc. But the more that their business depends upon the online model, the more they're going to have to be ready to play hardball if everyone in Hong Kong is boning up for the next day-trading cycle on a free "shared feed" of what hundreds of expensive Dow Jones employees just spent the last 24 hours laboriously putting together.

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  22. Good for WSJ! by scarolan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Kudos to WSJ for making it work.

    Many have criticized newspapers who charge for online access, saying it will never work, etc. On the other extreme you have websites that are "supported" by endless annoying popup and flash ads, or by making you look at the ad before getting to the page you wanted.

    Some people don't mind paying for quality content that is useful to them. WSJ has realized this and tapped into a good market.

  23. Online newspapers are more convenient by Flying+Purple+Wombat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't subscribe to WSJ, but I do subscribe to Investors Business Daily. I switched to the online version as soon as it was available. Advantages and disadvantages are probably the same as online WSJ.

    Benefits of online version:
    0. Fewer dead trees.
    1. No stack of old newspapers in my house.
    2. I don't have to haul a stack of paper to the recycling center.
    3. Available shortly after the markets close instead of the next morning.
    4. I can read it with my breakfast without venturing outside in yucky weather.
    5. If I miss a few days, the past week's editions are online.
    6. I can download the PDF version to archive, view on my Palm, or whatever.

    Disadvantages:
    1. Dead tree version makes better kindling for the fireplace.

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  24. My twisted logic. by caluml · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Online subscribers pay $84/year, whereas print subscribers are still paying $356...

    So, using the same kind of logic that the movie/record companies employ, each online subscriber is stealing $272 from the Wall Street Journal. They weren't going to pay for it, and yet they still get a copy.

  25. Re:Why do so many pay when it's all free anyway by karlmiller · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Did you make sure to take out the spaces that Slashdot inserts every 50 characters? Try this... Take this story for example, "GE'S NET ROSE 25% in the first quarter as nine of the conglomerate's 11 businesses logged double-digit percentage gains for earnings. The company also issued an upbeat 2005 outlook." The URL for that story is

    http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB111160514010687 816,00.html?mod=home_whats_news_us

    which if you are not already logged in, takes you to the log in page. However, if you insert the word public before the word article like so...

    http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB11116051 4010687816,00.html?mod=home_whats_news_us

    You are taken right to the story. Even better, if you make the URL look like this...

    http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/0,,SB11 1160514010687816,00.html?mod=home_whats_news_us

    You get the story with out any annoying information surrounding it.

  26. Resolution issue by abb3w · · Score: 2
    But I still prefer reading my books on paper. And most people I know feel the same.

    Books are printed at ~15000 dpi. At that resolution density, the pixels from a typical 19" LCD display would give you rather under an eighth of an inch diagonally.

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    1. Re:Resolution issue by DustMagnet · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Books are printed at ~15000 dpi.

      That's 1.7 microns! A human hair is about 100 microns. High end litho presses run about 900 lpi.

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  27. Not surprising by jessmeister · · Score: 2, Informative

    All the major newspapers (NYTimes, Boston Globe, etc) out here on the east coast have started to see their online revenues outpacing the growth of the offline ones. This is a trend that will only continue as these sites become outlets for information not only via text but also audio and video. This truly is an age where TV stations, Radio Stations and Newspapers (the old media) are going to be going head to head with the Googles and Yahoo's (new media). I bet we'll see some consolidations and maybe even some more AOL Time Warner style mergers (could they really have had foresight?).

    My 2 cents.