Firefox 1.0.3 and Mozilla Suite 1.7 Released

ESqVIP writes "Not long after Firefox 1.0.2 is out, there's a new public release. Just like the other 1.0.x releases, this is mostly a security fix. The release should hold for a few more days and we could also get bug 171349 (wrong icon displayed on Win9x) fixed. Mozilla Suite, on the other hand, has quite significant changes, some of them "imported" from Firefox. As announced before, this might be the Suite's last major release from the Mozilla Foundation."

Comments

1.7

[Clay Pigeon -TPF-VS-]

Could you be more specific in your summaries please? I am already running 1.7.6. Just saying 1.7 implies (to me) 1.7.0, which would not really be news...

How does this stack up to IE?

[Anonymous Coward]

Everyone says how buggy IE is, but with fix after fix for Firefox, is it really less buggy?

Re:How does this stack up to IE?

[Cruithne]

since Firefox does not have any code related to hibernation or PDF rendering, it is obvious that external applications or OS subsystems are responsible for the problems you're experiencing.

Actually, it is entirely possible that, while code may not specifically be written FOR hibernationg purposes, it could affect it. That argument is equivalent to claiming there have never been arbitrary incompatability issues in information systems of any kind.

As for the PDF problem, I'm guessing it has something to do with how the acrobat plugin and FF interact, as the issue doesnt exist with IE. The bottom line is these issues exist with FF for me and not IE, on multiple computers.

Re:How does this stack up to IE?

[Anonymous Coward]

Are you kidding? Not crashing every 2-3 hours was the selling point for me. Especially since when IE crashes, it usually takes Windows with it. Firefox crashes maybe once every week or two... and it doesn't kill the OS when it does.

While we're on the subject of OSS and crashes... Not crashing every time I print is the best feature of OpenOffice.org :)

Re:How does this stack up to IE?

[remmelt]

PDF's are a nuisance when viewed within a browser, mostly because it takes my computer (athlon 3K+, come ON!) a LONG time to open the viewer plugin, all the while freezing the entire FF app so I can't even look at any of the other tabs.

Luckily, someone made this, a freeware app that speeds up the acrobat startup because it strips a lot of libraries from it (second down on the page). What remains is a fully functional and very quick PDF viewer. Highly recommended.

Re:A good sign

[nacturation]

We all know people who argue that the large number of Firefox security fixes is bad -- but in fact, it is the mark of healthy and vibrant software.

So with Windows and IE having numerous bug fixes, does this mean that Microsoft software is healthy and vibrant?

Firefox startup time...

[Anonymous Coward]

I have noticed that firefox isnt the fastest starting up on a windows computer, same on my linux machine, but I installed Mozilla couple of weeks ago and it started up almost as fast as IE. Then in this release it says "Size and performance have improved dramatically with this release. When compared to Mozilla 1.6, Mozilla 1.7 is 7% faster at startup, is 8% faster to open a window, has 9% faster page loading, and is 5% smaller in binary size." I am about to install and try it. But why can FireFox not take this and use it to make it's start up times faster??!?

meh

[SweetAndSourJesus]

I keep hearing this, and it still doesn't make sense.

Why wouldn't Google just provide kick-ass extensions for Firefox and then promote it heavily? It doesn't make sense for them to fork Firefox and make their own browser when they could just pick up on the momentum Firefox has and offer their Google-specific content via extensions.

If there was a "Get Firefox, dumbass" link on google.com, Firefox downloads would hit 100 million in days.

Mozilla failed the "In your face" test...

[BrookHarty]

Wow, I just loaded Mozilla 1.7.7 and it popped up infront of my shells while I was working. Umm, who decided this was a good feature? Firefox loads in the background.

Really, I hate popup dialogs or any other program that things it has to be your center of attention while you are working, and take focus. Mozilla hasnt did this in the past, and firefox doesnt, wtf happened?

Shame.

BTW, wonder if I get marked flaimbait, troll for a noticing this on the new release and commenting on it. Because you cant say anything negative these days without someone thinking you are being rude. Negative comments are just that, something that can be fixed. I have serveral mozilla bugs that are still not fixed, mostly because its due to older hardware. The downloading of files, where it can cripple a sub-1ghz laptop and 4200-5400 drive, freezing the whole laptop (On windows). :) I use Firefox and Thunderbird, being a long time Netscape (4.x) email client user. Things just keep getting better, (mostly).

Re:Mozilla failed the "In your face" test...

[Reziac]

On my WinBoxen, I have the tweak set to "Prevent applications from stealing focus" and Mozilla STILL does it. Makes me wonder what it's doing that it really shouldn't be.

Damn shame

[mcrbids]

I've been using Moz since 0.5x on Linux. I've gotten very used to it.

I started using Firefox once 1.0 was released. I used it heavily, and for a while, it was my preferred browser. (Mainly because the bright orange icon was easier to find than the bluecurve icon on my FC3 laptop)

But, finally, I had to go back. Moz is just simply better. Having separate address and search bars is a stupid waste of space. The find being down at the bottom of the screen was... funky.

But the one that did it? Refresh on view source!

I develop web apps, and the ability to see raw output in HTML, do a tweak on the file on the server, and then hit reload while viewing source, and see the source update, was the straw that broke the Camel's back. In FF, I have to close the "view source" window, hit refresh, then View Source again.

Ugh.

I haven't uninstalled FF, but the icon is no longer on my desktop, and I really don't use it anymore.

Funny, how the STUPIDEST features can make the biggest differences, no?

I still prefer the suite

[GregWebb]

Firefox is OK, but... Quite simply, it just feels a bit emasculated and kiddified. I just prefer the look and feel of the full suite and I'm sure they've moved around and lost some options in the fox.

If Firefox had a suite interface skin and a full (browser) set of suite config options available without having to root around in about:config, I'd give it a try. As it stands, it just doesn't feel right and I'd much rather they pushed ahead with suite 1.8.

Re:I still prefer the suite

[fugas]

I also prefer the theme of the suite browser. IMO, the next best thing is the FirefoxModern theme.

Re:I still prefer the suite

[pe1chl]

Yes, it really is a pity that 1.8 is not being released. The 1.8 beta already has bugs fixed that still are present in 1.7.7 and Firefox 1.0.3

I always found it a bad idea to fork off projects like Firefox and Thunderbird.
The suite should have remained as a suite and the improvements implemented as part of that.
The Mozilla community does not have the resources to develop so many different versions, and it shows.

Re:I still prefer the suite

[Anonymous Coward]

I also preferred suite. I tested Firefox and it was horrible. Then I used it about two weeks and no way I'm going back to suite anymore.

So what I'm saying here is, give it a try. Humans often get stuck to old technology and they are afraid of the change, even if it is for better.

Yes, but what problems are release blockers?

[Futurepower(R)]

Except for security updates, I think that the Slashdot rendering bug and the plugin crash bug should be release blockers. And they have not been.

Where are the BitTorrents?

[Conficio]

Hi there, I'm missing updates to the Official Bit Torrents. They are still at 1.0.1 !!! Why does Mozilla not support in a timely manner a ligitimate use of a great P2P system, that could save them (and their mirrors) some money in the process and proof that P2P is not only about "stealing" copyrighted material. K