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Congress Declares War on File Leakers

An anonymous reader submits "Bush is expected to sign a law that essentially makes it a crime punishable by up to three years in jail for a user to put a single 'copy of a film, software program or music file in a shared folder and should have known the copyrighted work had not been commercially released.' Whichever side you're on in the copyright debate, you have to agree this legislation is draconian and excessive, to say the least."

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  1. Draconian? by Jhon · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Whichever side you're on in the copyright debate, you have to agree this legislation is draconian and excessive, to say the least."
    I don't think its draconian. To me, it seems that if You release a copywrited work without authority BEFORE it's commercial release it's a FAR larger crime than ripping and sharing the latest DVD release or previously broadcast TV show.

    Why? The damages are greater to the copywrite holder.

    Yes, I believe copywrite law is being abused (by both the (c) holder AND the (c) violator) -- however, this doesn't appear to me to be an abuse...
  2. "Common Carrier" - what about sites that host it? by xmas2003 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The submission uses the term "user" and the article (yes, I did RTFA) doesn't clarify what happens if the offending data is placed on a public web site - i.e. uploaded to a forum. I also look at the actual bill - the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act but was not able to figure the answer out. So is there a "common carrier" defense for those web site that perhaps unknowingly carry stuff?

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  3. Well, shit. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's it, I'm going to go shoplift, commit massive fraud against individuals, and torture cute things in full view of the public, because none of that is nearly as bad as filesharing. After all, it only hurts people, not corporations.

    John Rowland defrauded the state of Connecticut, and will be serving a measly single fucking year for it. Pimply-faced teenagers will spend more time being rectally plundered by delinquents named "Li'l Dawg" than our esteemed public servant will for racketeering, conspiract, et al.

    ARGH!

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  4. Draconian by Blitzenn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My god, I hope sooner or later people wake up to what is happening in this country. We have absolutely lost any semblence of 'punishment fits the crime'. How can 3 years in jail be justified by sharing a single copy of a pre-release movie. Granted it's theft, but theft of one $8.00 movie ticket at the most. Even if it is stealing (which I do consider it), three years in jail is just stupidly over-reactionary and overtly excessive. Of course a possible 25 year prison sentence for spamming is right up there too. Sure I hate spam and it pee's me off, but 25 years in jail? Then lump the loss of due process with the DMCA and you start to see a middle ages picture being drawn here. Isn't this what the founding fathers of our country came here to escape?

  5. Please review text before trolling by operagost · · Score: 4, Interesting
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  6. Another Big Brother law by isdnip · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This law works on two levels. Its primary backing, of course, is Hollywood, and they have a decent case that file leaking -- especially review DVDs loaned under nondisclosure -- can undermine their business model. Okay, I get it, though the penalties do look awfully harsh.

    But this also appears to apply to anyone who "leaks" information that the owner doesn't really want out there, ever. Without a deadline on the "release" date, material can be embargoed forever. That's how Big Brother can put information into a Memory Hole, and put anyone who lets it out into Room 101. It accompanies the DMCA stream that makes information Go Away Permanently when its DRM is made unreadable: If it's on a short-lived medium (some DVDs and CDs) and can't be copied, or uses a DRM that is time-limited, then once it goes, it goes, and trying to keep the information alive becomes a Crime Against The State. These secondary agendas are not obvious to the mainstream press, but the Fatherland Security Police apparatus is well aware of how these laws can be used against political opponents.

  7. Sue them! by photonic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So does this mean that - for a change - the record companies themselves are on the receiving end?? (Linked article claims that major record companies are actively 'leaking' new singles onto popular blogs to get positive reviews.)

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  8. Re:Free Thinkers Declare War on the RIAA by Golias · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Whichever side you're on in the copyright debate, you have to agree this legislation is draconian and excessive, to say the least."

    I am on the side of reducing copyright to a more reasonable time-frame. Five years after the death of the author would be plenty, IMHO.

    Were I a King of the US, I would declare that getting rid of copyright entirely would be even better. People wrote some pretty good stuff before the concept of copyright existed, so I disagree that it would all disappear after it was wiped out.

    And I do not "have to agree" that it's "draconian" and in fact, I don't agree.

    If you are going to bother to have copyright law matter at all, the only way to effectively enforce it is to come down hard on the first person to illegally distribute it. Once it's scattered all over usenet and various torrent sites, it's too late to do jack shit about it.

    So, unless everybody wants to agree to my kooky libertarian ideal of abolishing copyright entirely (and we all know that such a thing will never happen), then we need a big hammer to enforce the law as it exists.

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  9. Re:Free Thinkers Declare War on the RIAA by mcc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Otherwise, why even pirate this crap?

    I've never so much as considered attempting to download a movie. The amount of effort that goes into pirating such things when you could just drive to a video store and pay a very reasonable couple of bucks boggles my mind. But honestly, at this point I'm inclined to just start pirating movies in bulk without even ever watching a single one of them, just for the purpose of distributing them to others. The movie industry feels like their customers are insidious little criminals out to destroy them? Well fine. Then I want to actually start acting like one.

    They shit on the laws of my country, I start shitting on them. It's the least they deserve.

  10. I see "draconian" a lot in the comments by IronChefMorimoto · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I see folks calling this proposal "draconian." It sounds to me, and I did NOT RTFA as of this post, that a max. 3 year sentence is not so much OVERKILL and DRACONIAN as it is a DETERRANT to those who might think about violating the law.

    Granted, it's a little nuts, but think about it -- some kid starts seeing a PSA on TV and reading online hearing about other kids getting threatened with 3 years max. for violating the law? Shit -- if I were a parent, I'd think "family" in terms of this law, 'cause spending money to defend my kid for something he probably shouldn't have been doing in the first place affects my fucking "family" financially.

    Personally, it sounds like a horseshit law in the works, but most of the ones coming from DC these days are horseshit. However, as a deterrant, 3 years for, say, my kid violating the law is plenty effective.

    IronChefMorimoto

  11. Re:Free Thinkers Declare War on the RIAA by drgonzo59 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Good point, what about part of file. What if instead of having a single full file, I have fragments of files and I have the rest of the fragments in My Documents directory. Everyone on a P2P network would also do the same, but would have different fragments shared. Then if I want use/play the file, I would combine the fragments and have a full file in a non-shared folder somewhere. This means I can both share and use the files yet I am not sharing any single full file. Would that work as a quick dirty fix? Anyone know what is the smallest part of the content that I would be found guilty for sharing. The lowest limit it 1 bit, I know I can have 1 bit without them coming after me. But then there is the full file on the other extreme, I know I will go to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison for that. So where is the cutoff limit?

    It seems the bastards cannot legally check my non-shared directories without physically taking my machine away, but they can easily see and record what I share.

  12. Re:Free Thinkers Declare War on the RIAA by thisissilly · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Five years after the death of the author would be plenty, IMHO.

    I prefer fixed terms of no more than 56 years in length (preferably shorter, maybe around 20 years). Why?

    Life+5 years gives $BigPublishingCompany or $BigFilmCompany large incentives to see that Stephen King (or any other big-selling author) has an unfortunate "accident". Five years later, they no longer have to pay his estate any royalties on his works.