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Havoc Pennington on GNOME 3's Future

An anonymous reader writes "Havoc Pennington, lead developer of GNOME, wants to fork GNOME 3. 'So the forces of existing userbase, the easiest-to-reach future userbase, cross-platform applications, and funded development efforts are strongly pulling GNOME 2 toward conservatism. I think GNOME 3 should be a fork for that reason.'" This has been a common practice for not only many open source projects, but proprietary systems such as Solaris for major revisions, so it's not as tumultous a change as the word "fork" may imply.

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  1. Translation by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Darn those pesky users for making us stablize things instead of hacking cool new features! I mean, which would you rather have, a foot menu that works or spatial Nautilus?

    1. Re:Translation by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Spatial Nautilus is the only file manager avaiable that works the way I want a file manager to work.

      You must be a GNOME developer. ;-D

    2. Re:Translation by imsabbel · · Score: 4, Funny

      hm.
      The strange thing is that i remember this whole now "spacial" thing since windows 95.
      Back than it was called "why the fuck does this damn explorer open every folder in a new window" and was usually disabled by every computer literate after 2 hours....

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    3. Re:Translation by Mr+Z · · Score: 2, Funny

      More like, "When?" That style seems straight out of the 1700s.

    4. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      God forbid that the GNOME developers should do anything other than follow the pack, and make their product indistinguishable from everyone else's.


      Oh, right. The Windows 2000/XP file browser sucks! I have an idea! Let's don't copy the Win2k/XP file browser! Let's copy the Windows 98 file browser instead! That's innovation!

  2. Re:Don't call it Gnome 3... by masklinn · · Score: 4, Funny

    why would it? While the Gnome 2.x are clearly reserved for the currect gnome development, a major version change may mean several deep changes, and the creation of a "double tree" as the development of Gnome 2.x keeps on living during the birth and maturation of Gnome 3. Ever heard of Winamp3? (well, ok, it failed, but then we could get Gnome 5 couldn't we?)

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  3. Just use KDE by zardo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why doesn't he just join up with KDE? Theres enough bulk in KDE that it should fit his needs nicely.

  4. So in other words... by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is no fork.

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  5. Re:Don't call it Gnome 3... by double-oh+three · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe they could call it Gnom3?

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  6. Imagine it was a spoon instead of a fork by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

    oh wait, there is no spoon

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  7. Re:Follow the Linux Kernel example by Evan+Meakyl · · Score: 2, Funny

    They should do that! At least, if they are not able to have better functionnalities than KDE, they can claim they have a bigger revision number! :p

  8. Re:Don't call it Gnome 3... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Or 'midGet'?

  9. Oooooh I know! by stevenm86 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Let's not make any configuration options available to the users at all! No settings, preiod. If they think they are smart enough to reconfigure the product, let them read through the source and figure out what cryptic Gconf keys they need to hack. Yeah!" Seriously though, is forking such a good idea? I can't say I've run into too many gnome bugs (and I use it everywhere.) What gnome really needs, like a number of large-scale open-source products, is to have all the features 'finalized.' It seems that some things are just not quite finished, or some things hint at integration, yet it is not as complete as it should be. Finish the main features, then fork off that. Why not?

  10. Re:Don't call it Gnome 3... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    ph34r 6|\|0|\/|3 |\|3\/\/B!!!! OMG!!!~!~#@!~~!!!

    Not lame.

  11. Re:Not always true by 680x0 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Hi Havoc,

    What about a similar but distinct name for the experimental version (ala Fedora from Redhat). Possible names:

    • Elf
    • Ogre
    • And, of course, the Slashdot favorite: Troll

    (By the way, I have your book on GTK app development... It's very good. Thanks.)

  12. Hmmm... by SunFan · · Score: 2, Funny


    Let's add Evolution to the mix for kicks...that makes GNOME/OO.org/Mozilla/Evolution...whose acronym is GNOME!

    Obviously this is a sign from the Gods Of Recursive Elegance (GORE? He's in on it too?) that we're on the right track.

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  13. Mime sniffing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Careful which ones you sniff. Many mimes are French.