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Microsoft Demands Removal Of Longhorn Images

bonch writes "After the previously reported release of the Longhorn beta at this year's WinHEC, Neowin and other Windows sites are reporting that Microsoft is going around sending legal letters demanding removal of Longhorn Build 5048 screenshots. Paul Thurrott discusses it on his site, stating that Microsoft never told anyone beforehand not to post screenshots of the publicly available beta, and links to the new galleries he has up now. 'Enjoy it while it lasts.'"

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  1. Re:Microsoft is pointing fingers wrong way... by panaceaa · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft only has $34B in cash now. They've spent 25 billion over the past few years on buying back their own stock and giving a bunch back to investors in a one-time dividend.

  2. EULA again by ajaf · · Score: 5, Informative


    "Apparently, there is a condition in the EULA preventing people from posting screenshots. Nobody saw anything like that."

    http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?Art icleID=46188

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  3. Re:What is Microsoft trying to hide? by cpeterso · · Score: 4, Informative


    This Longhorn beta might looks a lot like Windows XP, but Microsoft is probably saving the cool GUI changes until the last beta or RTM milestone. Betas of earlier Windows version did the same thing.

  4. Re:Are you sure? by Phisbut · · Score: 3, Informative
    All this almost makes me want to switch to a Mac, if only they were not so bloody expensive. I just can't get myself to pay $1500+ for a computer. I've never spent more than $500 on any machine I have ever owned, with the exception of my laptop.

    Welcome to the world of the MacMini.

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  5. Re:First Post People Suck by Gubbe · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looks like it was #1 that was the correct answer:

    "1:07pm
    OK, Microsoft has provided its explanation. What it boils down to is that there may be certain technologies in the Longhorn Developer Preview build for which Microsoft has not filed patent applications, and the confidentiality provisions protect or mitigate the company's filing rights. One of the focus areas of IP protection has been user interface, hence Microsoft cannot permit screenshots of the UI. I was told that Microsoft had left its Media Center user interface unprotected, and that UI has been stolen and replicated in numerous other places. They don't want that to happen to Longhorn."


    From the Thurrott link.

  6. Screenshots Elsewhere by CypherXero · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm mirroring the screenshots on my blog, so you can stare at the ugly UI for as long as you want.

    My website is: http://www.collegechixors.com

  7. Nice Selective Copying by h2d2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nope, I'm not talking about MS copying Apple... I'm talking about the submitter, who carefully left out this important point from Thurrott's post:

    "Apparently, there is a condition in the EULA preventing people from posting screenshots."

    You may continue MS bashing now...

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  8. Re:Microsoft is pointing fingers wrong way... by dioscaido · · Score: 3, Informative

    Build 5048 is not a beta. It is a stripped down version of Longhorn that contains enough of the system framework for hardware developers to being writing their drivers. This is WinHEC, remember? Beta is planned for August. The features I work on, and most of the features I've seen in other group's demos, were not merged into this build.

  9. Re:I bet by ryanw · · Score: 3, Informative
    Longhorn is a far more important and comprehensive upgrade than Tiger
    All the features you raved that Longhorn WILL HAVE, TIGER HAS. If you're all stoked on longhorn, then you'd be flippin out about Tiger. With tiger you get to stare at your pixel perfect rendered desktop while using features needed to maintain sanity in this 'paperless environment'.
  10. Re:I bet by natrius · · Score: 2, Informative

    As soon as your copy of XP can keep two folders auto-sync'd over a network, then you give me a call. Longhorn can do that, and it's one of the big features I'm waiting for.

    You mean like iFolder?

  11. Re:Maybe "Shut Do..." is confidential IP by n6mod · · Score: 2, Informative

    "WTF?" is right.

    The Start menu has both a scroll bar and a text entry field! Neither one of these are rational solutions to trying to cram everything into one @#$&%! menu.

    We all make jokes about Microsoft compensating for Moore's law, but they really are doing that with screen real estate. This new UI is the most bloated thing I've ever seen. (Yeah, you can turn Aqua up that far, but it doesn't default to that)

    And...please. It's 2005. Why can't Windows calculate folder sizes?

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  12. SO do people who ride the first post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    If you go to the site, you now get the following message for the 2 gallery links:

    Removed at Microsoft's request.

    --Paul Thurrott
    April 25, 2005


    You can get them via Google's image cache:
    http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&q=http%3 A%2F%2Fwww.winsupersite.com%2Fimages%2Freviews%2Fl h
  13. Not so much "gone" as "still there." by chefmonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or, more accurately, simply commented out of the HTML.

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    And here is some random text to attempt to satisfy Slashdot's inane content filters. Apparently, it has to be quite a bit of text. I don't know what the average line length is that it requires, but it looks like it's unreasonably high.

  14. Re:Are you sure? by node+3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    He wants a computer, not a toy. The Mac Mini is cute and all, but it's also dog slow.

    "Dog slow" compared to what? It's the low-end Mac. It's obviously not going to be as fast as a dual G5. Since the guy spends < $500 on his PC's, he's not exactly in the 'high-end' category.

    In terms of style, it thrashes any PC ever made. In terms of performance, it can't hold a candle to anything in its price range.

    That myth was debunked the day the Mac mini was introduced. When you compare similar offerings from other manufacturers, the mini impresses.

  15. Re: Thank you! I feel exactly the same way! by Macka · · Score: 2, Informative


    When Apple bundles an application, if you don't like it you can easily swap it out. Hell, even the Safari Web Browser Preferences, has a drop down "Default Web Browser" menu, allowing you to choose any other web browser you've got installed on the system. And if I want to delete Safari without any impact to the system, I can.

    Can you do that in MS WIndows? Certainly not without fucking around under the hood, and the official Microsoft line is that you can't and shouldn't try.

    Oh, and Apple isn't a monopoly either!