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iMacs Freshened with 2.0 GHz G5, Bluetooth, WiFi

amichalo writes "Apple has updated the popular consumer level Mac, the iMac G5. So better support the now standard Mac OS X Tiger, Apple has made significant improvements to all standard configurations including 512MB RAM, Radeon 9600 128MB graphics, and on 2.0 GHz models (17" and 20"), a slot-loading dual-layer 8x SuperDrive is standard. The 1.8 GHz 17" model includes a slot-loading Combo Drive. Also standard are Apple's AirPort Extreme 802.11g WiFi and Bluetooth. Pricing remains at $1300, $1500, and $1800 respectively for 1.8 GHz 17", 2.0 GHz 17", and 2.0 GHz 20", though 2.0 GHz models include additional upgraded features. These improvements are significant as this line has not seen a refresh in about a year and the upgrade to a Radeon 9600 graphics card will allow the new iMac to take better advantage of Tiger features such as Core Image, which is significant because the video card cannot be upgraded. Lastly, Apple is continuing the interactive chat and QuickTime support program for the iMac G5."

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  1. That's Bluetooth 2.0 by jeffhot · · Score: 5, Informative

    just to clarify.

  2. don't forget the emac by squarefish · · Score: 5, Informative

    they've also update the emac

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  3. Re:looks like the end of the PowerMac by MKalus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Expandability?

    I would agree that the low end Powermac is abit... MMhhh weak, but then the advantage of it is that you can expand it more, another HDD, GFX, more memory.

    So for a "family" the Powermac really isn't the right machine but if you need an entry level Workstation for grafic work I'd say the Powermac is still the way to go.

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  4. Memory Prices (somewhat) improved by alistair · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm very pleased to see they have finally started shipping 512 Mb RAM as standard as this has to be considered the minimum to see OS X in its full glory. The prices to go to 1GB are much better, $125 extra for 1GB using up both DIMMs and $175 for the memory in one stick, leaving you free to buy the additional elsewhere (if you need it on this level machine).

    It leaves me puzzled why they are still shipping 256 Mb on the Power Macs (why, why?). However, this looks like a very sensible feature improvement which should provide the perfect all in one home machine and stop the iMac from having their sales canibalised by Mac Minis at the lower end. Sadly my previous generation iMac, which is now 4 years old, is still running perfectly, especially now it has Tiger, so this may still be a hard sell to buy this year.

    1. Re:Memory Prices (somewhat) improved by As+Seen+On+TV · · Score: 4, Informative

      Obviously it makes more sense to ship more base RAM in a machine that the average buyer will never open than in the machine that is designed (and priced) to be expanded internally.

      Besides, the RAM thing is always a tightrope for us. Yes, the iMacs need to have more RAM in their base configurations than the Power Macs do because market research tells us that only something like one iMac owner in 10 ever opens his computer, while five out of six Power Macs get upgraded in some way during the first year of ownership. Our iMac customers want more RAM in the Mac, while our Power Mac customers want less RAM in the G5 (because our RAM is naturally more expensive than third-party RAM; it's a volume issue). But at the same time they don't want the iMac to ship with more RAM than the Power Mac because then Power Mac buyers feel ripped off. "This expensive computer only came with 256 MB of RAM! Cheapskates!"

      So it's a tightrope. Bottom line is, no matter how we configure the RAM in our SKUs, a third of our customers are gonna complain about it. And 100% of Slashdotters.

  5. Re:I see a trend .. by indy_Muad'Dib · · Score: 5, Informative
  6. Re:One significant thing about the iMac by MagnusDredd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, no...

    This is a marketable point given that the 9600 will take full advantage of Quartz 2D extreme GUI acceleration, whereas the video card below this one will not. So it's a matter of Quartz 2D Extreme support or not. Quartz 2D extreme should make a very large difference in GUI speed, which being a place that OSX has lagged, is a big deal.

  7. Re:Midplane PSU & Inverter Defect in iMac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Keep in mind that there are only so many parts in the iMac G5 - you can basically break it down to: SATA drives, PSU, Midplane, Inverter, Display (+ memory). Things that are separate parts in many machines but not the iMac G5: video card, speakers, bluetooth, antennae, modem, fan(s), cables, and sometimes even the processor(s) and ports.

    Considering that drive and LCD failures are unlikely to be heavily seen in any computer's first 6 months on the market, it's not surprising that most of the failures we hear about are the Midplane or PSU. PSU is an easy one - "won't power on/won't stay on." Inverter typically presents itself as a "no backlight" issue. That leaves a laundry list of problems that all reside on the midplane: Fans stop spinning, unit overheats. Fans spin too fast constantly, too loud. No AirPort signal. Bluetooth not recognized. Video scrambled. Ethernet port not working. Memory not recognized. Kernel panics on startup. Bad FireWire port. No sound. ALL of these require replacing the midplane.

    My point? Not all iMac midplane failures are equal, and unless they are all failing for the same reason at the same point, there is no larger issue. Apple simply chose to put "the whole computer" on the midplane, so yes it gets replaced more frequently than many other parts (there are hardly any other parts to replace!), however from a customer service standpoint it makes repairing your own computer a heck of a lot easier. There are really only so many parts to go bad in an iMac, and surprise, a few of them have. Also realize that this computer has been flying off the shelves since day 1, so there's going to be a larger number of reports than usual. Add to this people who were shipped a PSU to replace and really needed a midplane, or vice versa, but consider the problem a 'dual failure' because both parts ended up being replaced (I've seen this case a lot online). This was a failure on Apple's support end to accurately identify the problem, but nonetheless does not constitute a dual-failure epidemic. The iBook G3 logic board recall, on the other hand, represents a specific widespread failure that manifests itself in the exact same way every time.

    Sorry to go on a bit of a tirade, but I really feel that - like with the iPod 'battery issue' - the majority of iMac owners are happily enjoying their purchases and the fact that anyone with a sad story and no technical knowledge can post to a website really tends to have a run-away effect in the Mac community. It would be nice to see more people address these failures with some consideration for how the thing is built.

  8. Re:game by Perl-Pusher · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, I'm a true ./'r! If you want facts and statistics , I am afraid you are in the wrong place. May I suggest you buy a Mac mini and try it out for yourself. If it's not true for you you can always sell it on ebay.