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Legend of Zelda: Needs A Subtitle Previewed

1up.com continues its ramp-up to E3 feature rampage with a preview of the next Legend of Zelda title. They discuss not only the upcoming game but some classic moments from the series' past as well. From the article: "Koji Kondo: Yes, as I recall, in the very first Legend of Zelda, in the very opening title screen, we used to use the classical music of 'Bolero,' because that tempo was perfectly matched with the speed of the opening screen rolling. But I remember it was just before, when we really had to complete the final ROM for reproduction, they told me that unfortunately the copyright of that music hadn't expired yet, so I had to compose a completely new piece of music that night. I recall that I did it within one day. You know, 'da-da-da-da' -- that was done in just one day." Witty story name gleaned from toastyfrog's blog.

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  1. Bolero? by republican+gourd · · Score: 2, Informative

    I didn't recognize it offhand. Here is a midi:

    http://www.ettnet.se/~tradare/mid/bolero.mid

    It is kind of Zelda-esque.

    1. Re:Bolero? by frikazoyd · · Score: 2, Informative

      He means this Bolero. It was written for a ballet, and was inspired by the generic "bolero" type of music in spanish tradition.

      The "Bolero of Fire", I guess, is supposed to be reminiscent of the traditional Spanish style of music (not the musical piece you provided a link to). But the original "Bolero" by Ravel (that you linked to) is the one that they were going to put at the front of "The Legend of Zelda" as the theme, except it wasn't public property yet. That's actually pretty interesting, considering that video game music is now its own movement.

  2. Re:Milking Sequels by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't really see anything wrong with sequels themselves, what exactly are you criticizing? There's nothing inherently better or worse about a member of a franchise as compared to an original title, even if you feel that a disproportionate amount of sequels are of poor quality. Nintendo in particular has a very good reputation with its sequels, they tend to be received as well made and innovative: not 'cookie-cutters'. Take for instance games like Mario Kart DD and Super Smash Brothers Melee, both anticipated to be remakes of their N64 versions with prettier graphics. They ended up being significantly evolved from their earlier versions, and (check Gamerankings if you wish) were very well reviewed.

  3. So helpful... by still_sick · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know, 'da-da-da-da'

    Oh yeah, THAT song. So much better than that other song, 'da-da-do-da'.

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  4. Re:Milking Sequels by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 1

    If consumers buy them - what's the problem? People enjoy Zelda, Mario, and the Madden franchises.

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  5. Re:Milking Sequels by Bozzio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Personally, I enjoy sequels. It gives the game developers a chance to improve on their original product (good or bad). Think of Street Fighter II! The first Street Fighter was total crap, but the second one brought to life a whole culture of gaming!

    Another benefit is being able to enjoy more work from the developers themselves (not just the game as a whole). For example, I follow the castlevania series for it's music. Hell, I follow ALOT of Konami games for their music. Listening to Club Kukeiha's work spanning several Konami titles and sequels is pretty neat!

    I'm just ranting now... but sequels can be more to people than just the same "hero" on the screen again. It's nice to see the developers, composers, graphic artits' work again.

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  6. A one and a two and a... by aztektum · · Score: 3, Funny
    Link! He come to town
    Come to save the princess Zelda
    Ganon put her away
    Now the children don't play
    But they will when Link saves the day
    Hallelujah!

    Now Link, fill up your hearts
    So you can shoot your sword of power
    And when you're feeling all down
    The fairy will come around
    So you'll be brave
    And not a sissy coward

    Now Link has saved the day
    For Ganon is in his grave
    So now Zelda is free
    And now our hero shall be
    Link, I think your name shall go down into history

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    1. Re:A one and a two and a... by Dwedit · · Score: 3, Informative

      The song is by Rabbit Joint, NOT System of a Down.

    2. Re:A one and a two and a... by PhosterPharms · · Score: 1

      My apologies, I'd always seen it tagged as System of a Down.

  7. Bolero seen again... by Lord+Pillage · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If anyone recalls in Ocarina of Time one of the songs you had to learn as grown-up link was the Bolero of Fire. It would transport you to the fire temple.

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    1. Re:Bolero seen again... by Bozzio · · Score: 1

      The opening music is also very reminiscient of Satie's first Gymnopédie. Chew on THAT one :)

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  8. Re:Milking Sequels by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Somewhere between Capcom, Nintendo and EA. They are dictating to the industry that it's ok to sell the sequels for 10+ years."

    At least Nintendo is dicating "Despite being a sequal, don't make it a rehash of the original."

    Before you angrily hit reply, compare Sonic the Hedgehog 1, 2, and 3 to the first 3 Mario games. Perfect example.

    In any event, a game doesn't have to be a sequal to be a snoozer. Plenty of me-too Quake or Street Fighter killers have been made.

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  9. Re:Milking Sequels by Bozzio · · Score: 1

    wait... are you saying Mario 1, 2, and 3 are very similar? As far as I can remember Sonic 1, 2, and 3 WERE very similar, but the first three Mario weren't.

    Mario 2 US wasn't even originally a mario game! It's just an adaptation of Doki Doki Panic. And Mario 3 was one of the most innovative games in VG history! (Mario 2 Jap was not all that original, but had several changes over Mario 1. See the "Lost levels" game on "Mario All Stars")

    Well, looking back at your post, you MUST mean that the first 3 Sonics were in fact dissimilar.. otherwise you, sir, are a MAD MAN!

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  10. Screenshots by Jmechy · · Score: 3, Informative
  11. Re:Milking Sequels by krakelohm · · Score: 1

    Yup, I think you just proved his/her point.

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  12. You know what by Odocoileus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It makes one wonder how many games, and movies could have been better if not for the restrictions imposed by the really long lasting copyright law.

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    1. Re:You know what by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 1
      Or worse.

      I'd take the original Zelda's soundtrack over other copyrighted music any day.

      If that copyright hadn't been there, it would never have been written. And that would be a damn shame.

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    2. Re:You know what by rabbot · · Score: 1

      I'm glad this happened. I'm sure most other Zelda fans are as well.

  13. Theme song? by Taulin · · Score: 1

    Wait, but the opening song was the same tune as the song that plays during the game. Unless he wrote that too, then all he did was make a dramatic version of the main game tune.

    1. Re:Theme song? by WaterBreath · · Score: 1
      No, there was a short tune that played at the title screen, before the story started rolling up the screen. This served as a prelude to, and segued into, the actual overworld theme song, which began to play when the story started rolling.

      That title tune was not anywhere else in the game.

  14. Re:Ravel's Boléro? by AuMatar · · Score: 1

    Umm, I like classical music and all, but how the hell can something without words be considered erotic? Its music, not a song.

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  15. Bolero vs Zelda by Elranzer · · Score: 1

    "Yes, as I recall, in the very first Legend of Zelda, in the very opening title screen, we used to use the classical music of [Ravel's] 'Bolero,' because that tempo was perfectly matched with the speed of the opening screen rolling. But I remember it was just before, when we really had to complete the final ROM for reproduction, they told me that unfortunately the copyright of that music hadn't expired yet, so I had to compose a completely new piece of music tthat night. I recall that I did it within one day. You know, 'da-da-da-da' -- that was done in just one day." -- Koji Kondo

    I wonder if Kondo ever imagined, back then, that more Americans and Japanese these days would recognize his Zelda title screen song over Bolero...