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Vacuum-Controlled Elevator Developed

Aenox writes "Vacuum Elevators of Florida have released a one-man elevator system that easily slots into buildings. It has gone on sale in the U.S. for around $20,000 and uses only electricity to power vaccum-inducing suction turbines that can lift 204Kg several floors up. They claim it provides a smooth ride but from the video it looks like it could use some oil."

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  1. Editor desperately needed at NewScientist.com by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Does NewScientist.com have editors?

    Call me picky, but if you're doing a professional publication, there are some standards you ought to uphold.

    But O'Connor adds that a series of mechanical breaks will activate should there be a sudden loss of pressure, to prevent the capsule falling.

    Well. this certainly doesn't sound promising. I would think that in the event of a sudden loss of pressure, the elevator would 'break' quite satisfactorily on its own, without the need for additional mechanical help.

    The elevator costs between $20,000 and £22,000.

    That's actually quite a large price range, once you figure out the exchange rate.

    Clearly someone over at NewScientist.com is asleep at the switch. The sad fact is that this is nothing new....even sadder is the fact that this sort of thing is now acceptable, even in professional publications.

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    1. Re:Editor desperately needed at NewScientist.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Does it? Think about it .. Tell me that there are people of reasonable IQ who would read that sentence and not know what I was saying.

      Personally, I rather an article has factuality over some anal compliance with grammar. You personally may prefer grammatically correct lies over truths that contain a couple of spelling mistaeks [sic]. As long as the facts aren't muddled .. why are typografikal issues a major concern? I don't get it. Aren't there other things in the world for someone like you to be concerned about?

      Let me ask you this, what is it that you do? I mean, give some credibility as to why people should follow your advice. Are you the owner of a successful magazine or journal? Editor of the new york times? Who exactly are you "Trip Master Monkey"? And why should we listen to you..

    2. Re:Editor desperately needed at NewScientist.com by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful



      Does it?


      Well, yes...we've established that.


      Tell me that there are people of reasonable IQ who would read that sentence and not know what I was saying.


      Spelling and grammar rules exist so that people don't have to guess the meaning of a particular sentence. We have standards for a reason.


      Personally, I rather an article has factuality over some anal compliance with grammar.


      Personally, I wonder why you feel the two must be mutually exclusive.


      You personally may prefer grammatically correct lies over truths that contain a couple of spelling mistaeks [sic].


      My my, that's a mighty fine straw man you're building over there...just don't try to hang my name on him.
      Just for the record, you were the one who introduced the (non)issue of factual accuracy into this conversation. Nowhere have I ever said that grammatical correctness is preferable to factual accuracy, and for you to attempt to insinuate that I did is disingenuous.

      .. why are typografikal issues a major concern?


      OK...now you're just being childish.

      I don't get it.

      Yes...you're making that painfully clear.


      Aren't there other things in the world for someone like you to be concerned about?

      Yes, but unlike you, I apparently have this preternatural ability to be concerned about multiple issues at once.


      Let me ask you this, what is it that you do?


      I'm a network administrator...not that my current employment is pertinent to this discussion...

      I mean, give some credibility as to why people should follow your advice.

      Because it's not *my* advice...it's the elementary rules of spelling, punctuation, and grammar. It's not like I'm somehow privy to the mysterious dark secrets of the English language...these rules are available to anyone who cares to pick up a textbook. Any highschool English teacher who read that article would have found the same errors I did.

      Who exactly are you "Trip Master Monkey"?

      Actually, if you would bother to read my previous posts, you would see that it's 'TripMaster Monkey', but perhaps I'm being *too* picky now... ^_^

      And why should we listen to you..

      Starting a sentence with a conjunction, question without a question mark, and two periods. I think you just answered your own question.

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    3. Re:Editor desperately needed at NewScientist.com by mdfst13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Personally, I rather an article has factuality"

      However, the article does not. Mixing British Pounds and US Dollars as it does is a *factual* mistake. It presumably meant to say twenty to twenty-two of one currency or the other. What they actually said was something like $15,000 off at one end or the other.

      Yes, factual issues are more important than typographical issues. However, typos are easier to catch than errors. There is no reason not to make the minimal effort to catch the typos. You will catch some number of errors along the way (e.g. the incorrect currency symbol). Further, the minimal effort needed to find typos is still needed if you want to find errors, as you need to find where statements regarding facts are being made.

      Another way of saying this is "If your realtor adds a 0 to the end of your house price, that is a typo. Would you then pay it as typos are unimportant?"

    4. Re:Editor desperately needed at NewScientist.com by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For the record, TripMaster, I'm with you. Anyone that is unable to take the tiny bit of extra effort to ensure that they are using the words they think they are, and that they are spelled correctly, isn't worth listening to.

      And you would think a (supposedly) professional publication such as New Scientist would at least ensure that each article was reviewed (and corrected, if need be) by an editor with the appropriate skills, assuming the authors were lacking thereof.

  2. Re:Failsafes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    The only thing to wonder about is, are these "failsafes" activated electronically anyway? In which case a powerfailure will lead to...

  3. Something I noticed by TheLink · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It seems there's no shield between the occupant and the sides of the stationary tube.

    If that is true there could be risks if stuff (like clothing) gets caught at the wrong places... Not very high I suppose - it's just like using an escalator - if you careless/stupid enough to get something caught you better hope it rips rather than you rip...

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  4. 204Kg? Rules out some markets by otisg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Use your imagination... sad, but true.

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  5. Re:use the stairs fatty ! by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because people who use walkers love running up and down the stairs.

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  6. Re:For Us Americans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    450 lbs

    well that rules out the American market

    also elevators are supposed to employ a 2:1 safety ratio, do USA elevator manufacturers have to re-calculate their people counts due to the obesity epidemic ?

  7. These people are missing the main market. by BrianH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The primary market for residential elevators is for the elderly and wheelchair bound. From what I can see, this elevator isn't stable or safe enough for a frail elderly person, and it isn't large enough to fit a wheelchair or scooter.

    So the only market for this thing is going to be for rich people who'd rather blow money on a toy than take the stairs. While I'm sure there's a market for that, it's not going to be a big one.

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  8. Only electricity? by conteXXt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    news flash:

    elevators don't run on guinea pig droppings. All modern elevators (excepting perhaps the Space Elevator) run on ONLY electricty.

    Did I miss something here?

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  9. CowboyNEAL is a THIEF!!! :) by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He stole my story I tried to post yesterday, and I had a better tag line too:

    2005-05-06 18:01:29 Elevator from Futurama! (Hardware,Technology) (rejected)

    and a better description.

    This elevator comes in 2 modes: 2 floor mode and a 3 floor mode. It is easy to install, you only need to make a round hole in the floor/ceiling and put the round tube-shaft through it. It works by pumping the air out of the tube from the top (a pump generates 87dBA of noise,) and since the pressure underneath the cabin stays the same, the cabin goes up.

    Safety is guaranteed by a mechanical lock that stops the cabin dead in case if pressure under the cabin becomes weaker than the pressure from above. On the other hand if electricity cut off from the pump, the cabin wouldn't get stuck between the floors, it would slide down slowly due to slow pressure venting.

    There is a clever cabin ventilation scheme...

    anyway, this thing looks a lot like the mode of transportation used in Futurama and my last sentence was:

    Now I wish someone came up with an american favorite Suicide Booth, then my day would be complete.

  10. WTFV RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful


    if you watched the video you would see this isnt marketed towards the handicapped but to rich/dumb office execs, if you look at the tube you would of seen there isnt enough room to open a newspaper never mind walkers/wheelchairs

    but then again this is slashdot where people comment first before thinking about what they are actually saying (much like the current USA president (perhaps its a culture thing))

  11. You cant dig down in florida! by apg88 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This company is from florida. As someone else stated before, a piston elevator would need a hole as deep as the elevator is high. When you are in florida, if you dig down, water comes out. This elevator is good for homes that cant dig for a pneumatic piston and cant have a huge pulley system to pull the elevator. They'll probably use it for two floor hotel suites and things like that.

  12. your own medicine... by booyabazooka · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Starting a sentence with a conjunction, question without a question mark, and two periods.

    ... Using a sentence fragment.

    I agree with you, in this particular case. Although no one particularly cares about grammatical rules, which really are flexible, the article is just wrong. Breaks are very different from brakes, and dollars are not pounds. This isn't a small spelling/grammar issue, it's factual inaccuracy.