Inside the Open Source Lab
FreeFooOpenFighter writes "KernelTrap has an interesting article about Oregon State University's Open Source Lab. They currently provide hosting for an impressive list of projects including, among many others, the Mozilla Foundation, Debian GNU/Linux, and Gentoo Linux. According to the informative article, they plan to continue to donate hosting with their two OC48s to FOSS projects meeting their criteria."
Haha. I noticed that when I started Firefox. Wasn't sure if it was something wrong with my net connection, so I went on slashdot to check (I knew you'd all go nuts if it went down for more than a minute).
Google was down for me.
I live in Minnesota, has this happend everywhere or is it just localized ?
Thanks for the post. I didn't realize you were a member of Slashdot, Mr. Gates.
Holy shit! God^Hogle is down! I was wondering why my gmail notifier on firefox was blank. OMGWTFBBQLOL! Seriously though.. doesn't akamai handle their dynamic server redirection?
Not back for me
It's still gone for me...
here are four (4) words that are never said enough to all the people involved in FOSS, they are free and no licence is required to say them:
Thank You Very Much
best wishes
The Rest Of the World(TM)
I blame DNS. Seeing as you can still access it via IP, and the DNS doesn't enjoy resolving at the current point in time...
Oh wait, it's lame UNIX faggotry
For substandard hobby software
down in UK too
I'm in Boston, and when I access through a Verizon DSL connection, it seems to be down. When I SSH to a university computer, google.com loads up fine in lynx.
Sounds good, I'm in.
It's nice that the hosting is donated... does this give any advantages to Oregon State students? Ultra-fast downloads over the U's internal network connections, for example?
Being closed to the public is probably going to happen with any "lab" at a university, but I'd bet that there are quite a few opportunities for student involvement with the lab if you know where to look.
No Google News.
SourceForge is open to the public, and kicks ass. What has this to offer that sf doesn't?
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s= &threadid=1553110&perpage=40&pagenumber=1/
The terrerists dun it.
Downloads from OSL are the same speed as the rest of the Internet from the school. (100 mbit) The limiting factor is the server. Anyone with a decent host these days has 100mbit, so there's no huge advantage. Oh, and their Gentoo mirror sucks. I get about 40kb/sec off of it. I switched to datapipe.net.
Like developing a new C library thats secure and fast.
Or how about help developing a java operating system for high security.
Sounds like you're pissed off because you cant join that lil-special-club there. It's not their fault that all you can do is bag groceries. Get over it.
If you go to a page that's supposed to have ads, you'll see that sometimes the ad banner is completely absent, while at other times, it is there, but clicking on the ad links leads to nowhere. And very rarely (about once in 10 times), you do get forwarded to the correct place. Weird...
go to http://gmail.google.com/gmail instead. That works. It's the www.gmail.com domain that's down I think.
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
Yes, Google news normal page is down, however it can be accessed via this page
http://news.l.google.com/
Irrelevant to the main article, but I'm sure more than one person will be interested to know
try posting with your real nick, pussy.
Where in the world did you get this idea? They just hired another student infact to help out with infrastructure related needs. What is so closed about it? They even had an http://osuosl.org/news_folder/open_house open house not too long ago. Apparently you didn't make it to find out. Also, Scott/Corey/Jason are all well rounded intelligent people have do an excellent job. Kudos on them getting this going!
Woah, you had that same problem too?
I checked, and made a semi-formal study on how google was down.
Student Research and Development
Let me guess, you'd kick my ass, but can't read the road signs to get to my house?
sorry, my bad....
well done, excellent anti-troll....
All of the staff look like pretty normal joes, until you get down to Lars, who looks like he stepped out of the LOTR set (or maybe MIT). I feel like I should have to crawl up the side of a mountain to ask him a question. (And not "Are you *really* the head of the Kwik-E-Mart?")
Then again, maybe you do: the guy lives in a yurt.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
I'll guess we'll have to do without a search engine tonight...
If noone posts a story about the Google outage...
The terrorist win.
Google has been down last year's end.... Nothing new.
I don't know where you got this idea from. I think the problem is that people who haven't heard much about the OSL just can't quite figgure what the OSL is here to do. There are two main goals, contract work for developing open source software (OSU's Maintain for exampe) and hosting for large projects (Gentoo Linux for example). If you are looking for a group to teach people about Linux, check out the OSLUG http://lug.oregonstate.edu/ if you have not already which is a student driven organization and is very open to the public.
seti@home is dead too, probably for a different reason though, because its been dead for a while.
And what would you do if you had access? Hang out and talk about how you're gonna get a sweet flatscreen monitor for free Real Soon Now?
I have MySQL, I'm not sure why I'd ever want Access. And what's this about flatscreen monitors?
Here's a mirror if you get desperate http://elgoog.rb-hosting.de/index.cgi
I hate to break it to you, but the OSL killed Maintain after they assimilated the project from its original developer. Maintain hasn't had a bug fix (or, god forbid, an actual new release) in months.
And the OSL's goal of "contract[ing] work for developing open source software"? With a portfolio like the OSL's (*zero* projects developed solely by their in-house programmers), I'd say this one's DOA.
I want another -1 faggots
Slashdot sucks
OSL don't just host 'a Gentoo mirror'. They also host several master and development servers.
Sorry you're seeing slow download speeds. I actually think its a product of our success and part of our effort not to *just* focus on mirroring.
As for alienating a large portion of campus, I have no idea how you got that idea. Showboating and self-important ranting? What exactly does open source showboating look like?
I would say we help the academic environment by providing great opportunities for students.
The OSL has actually brought in quite a bit of money to the University.
Sooo what you're saying is that not only do they host Gentoo poorly they host a whole bunch of other services at 40KB? Please tell me again how much this has cost the University? Forgive me if I'm not impressed.
Killed Maintain? Actually we've had several internal releases in the last few weeks. We've had several bug fixes in the last several months as well.
The Bouncer is a pretty fantastic tool that we developed here completely in house. Mozilla likes its to the tune of 50 million downloads. There are several other projects that we participate in as members, doing what our defined role is for OSU; helping OSU participate better in open source projects.
"[Slow download speeds are] a product of our success"? Do you even read your own BS, kveton? Last time I checked, hosting a major project means ensuring awesome hosting. kernel.org doesn't seem to have any speed problems.
"What exactly does open source showboating look like?"
It looks a lot like www.osuosl.org.
This response is classic kveton: draw the crowd in with promises, and then redirect their attention away from the issue.
An internal release doesn't exactly help the general public, does it?
Yes, Bouncer's great. But we weren't talking about Bouncer, we were talking about Maintain. When you can show us a project written entirely by the OSL from start to finish, then maybe we'll take the OSL seriously.
Actually, the OSL is not a running joke around OSU. We're a fantastic team that is helping moving open source forward at the University and in the world.
Talk with our students, talk with all of our customers, talk with Mozilla, Gentoo, Debian, KernelTrap and ask them how much we suck. Lemme know how that goes for you.
The running joke is anonymous cowards that don't have the backbone to stick behind what they say.
What exactly was the role of the OSL in the development of the bouncer? Did the OSL write code, act as a middle man or something else?
"What exactly does open source showboating look like?"
It looks a lot like www.osuosl.org.
(I'm going to take the karma hit because kveton doesn't deserve it.)
Shut up. You're the perfect example of anti-open source showboating. Are you doing anything to help open source? Didn't think so. Show some respect for the OSL. Would you prefer that people stop hosting or mirroring projects because they don't have sufficient hosting?
Do you even read your own BS, Mr. Anonymous Coward? Coward indeed.
I'm really sorry you're so frustrated with us. I bet 10 minutes with our staff and seeing what we have really accomplished would change your mind.
The OSL wrote the whole thing. Start to finish. v2.0 will be sometime in the next week or two.
LOL. "Classic kveton" huh?
Do you participate in Maintain? I didn't think so. The users of Maintain do and all of them have the same access to the SVN repository as the rest do.
You get 40kb/sec! That seems fairly fast to me. If I could download anything on the internet at 40kb/sec I would be happy. The fastest I seem to be able to get is 28kb/sec...
You know not of what you speak. The OSL has brought in a tremendous amount of money to OSU in the short time they have existed. Not only have they produced unique solutions for folks on campus (and farther away), they have generated a great deal of interest in open source technology within the campus community.
In addition to open source development activities, they are providing reliable hosting to some of the largest open source projects around.
What about education, you say? The OSL is providing unique job opportunities to students interested in open source technologies. Many students are choosing OSU over other schools in part because of the OSL.
They are not seen as a joke at OSU; on the contrary, they are seen as an asset.
"My" OSU
...is there any way this works to the advantage of keeping fire under the rear ends of the Debian people to move forward at something other than their historical snails' pace?
Also, do we need to have SF vs. OSL flaming? Either way, we have repositories for the OSS world to work with. Most of the stuff I use is over at SF for both Linux and Windows. However, if something is homed at OSL, that's cool too.
If my grammar and spelling are off, I am [distracted/tired/careless] (take your pick)