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Gates Releases Details on New Mobile OS

rjelks writes "Microsoft's Bill Gates released details about the company's new mobile operating system, code-named Magneto, at the Mobile & Embedded Developers Conference in Las Vegas today. There has been a lot of recent speculation about the new OS. People have been describing it as a possible 'Blackberry killer.' Windows Mobile 2005 will be released to hardware manufacturers immediately. The OS will integrate Smartphone, Pocket PC, and Pocket PC Phone Edition operating systems into one platform. It will also include updates to the mobile versions of Word, Excel and PowerPoint." Relatedly, ZDNet has an interview with Gates about the initiative.

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  1. Microsoft by mfh · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Microsoft: Get ONE right, before you try and do so much.

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    1. Re:Microsoft by Stibidor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ever heard of multiple streams of income? What does it matter to them if any of their OSes work perfectly, so long as people are buying them?

  2. Magneto? by neuro.slug · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is it just me, or is Microsoft attempting to re-invent their image? "Magneto", like "Underdog" (the new search engine) is definitely a far cry from "Longhorn" in terms of target audience.

    Microsoft: The new Apple wannabe? I dunno.

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  3. Microsoft name schemes... by Erik+Soderstrom · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I thought Microsoft always codenamed their operating system after cities and locations to avoid getting sued over a name conflict.... Magneto.... X-Men (c) Marvel... ring any bells? Aww, come on!

  4. Looking good... by Cmdr+Whackjob · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm looking to replace the current line of PDA's for our company and this sounds very interesting. Employees are often out of office and an all-in-one device like this will be great for them to keep in touch - and maybe even do a bit of work on.

  5. Well by Sv-Manowar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's good to see that they are targetting the Blackberry domination of the market, hopefully it will lead to manufacturers battling to achieve market share, which would mean better products for us, the consumer.

    I just wouldn't want to be beta testing that ;)

  6. Why spend hundreds of dollars on a phone? by mcho · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Personally, I don't think an all-in-one phone is practical.

    Computers are overly complex as it, why make phones the same way? For example, a friend of mine asked me to help him export/import his contact list from Outlook. He couldn't figure it out even though this is a feature that's been around for a good, long time, but probably a majority of users don't know how to use it.

    That's why I've started messagingreminder.com so you can automatically recieve reminders on your appointments (which are stored in Microsoft Outlook or Mozilla Sunbird) -- you don't have to do anything but run the software!

    I rather have a $50 with a good battery life and reception than a +$300 phone that I can't figure out how to use and quickly drains its battery.

  7. one device that will be running it by utexaspunk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    drool... say what you want about windows mobile, but i don't see any other devices with other operating systems that can do what windows mobile does. sure, there's plenty of room for improvement- it seems i have to reboot my ipaq 6315 every day or two, but no other device does as much as it can...

  8. Blackberry Killer? by CynicalGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    People dont use blackberries because of the OS. They use them because of the small form factor (new ones are even better) and the push email.

    Hell, I think PalmOne's Treo could kill the blackberry if it offered REAL push email and instant messanger applications.

    But knowing Microsoft, this thing is going to end up bundled with Windows Media Player, Internet Explorer, the entire Microsoft Office suite, and be just slightly too big for my pocket.

    I want: 1. small as possible 2. best screen possible 3. blackberry/treo keyboard 4. push email 5. IM

    That's it.

  9. Does anyone actually use Pocket Office? by FatRatBastard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have used the Handcom Office software maybe twice on my Zaurus, neither time for anything actually work related. Working on Word and Excel documents is pretty difficult on a PDA form factor, I have to imagine its downright useless on a phone screen.

    Is anyone really doing last minute alterations to presentations on their phone?

    1. Re:Does anyone actually use Pocket Office? by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I use Pocket Excel to keep track of my bowling scores when I'm at the bowling alley. It's neat to be able to generate a bunch of statistics. But I have to agree and imagine not too much "real" work gets done in Pocket Office.

  10. So is are the writing off the Embedded space? by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This seems so weighted towards the Phone/PDA segment I have to wonder if Microsoft writing off the rest of the Embedded market to go after the PDA/Phone market?
    Of course Palm is going to build on top of Linux for there new version so It will be interesting to see what they do.

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    1. Re:So is are the writing off the Embedded space? by LWATCDR · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What about for lower powered devices? Linux runs on the DragonBall and SH4.
      Frankly a lot of apps do not need a 400 mhz+ Xscale.

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  11. Four words by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Single point of failure." I for one don't want to be unable to make or receive calls just because my PDA gets a virus or otherwise decides to act up. Think it doesn't happen? It happenned to Chad Dickerson No, I think all-in-one is a very BAD idea.

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  12. Re:Quick, Dial 911!!!! by brasten · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You joke, but you'd be surprised how often I have to reboot my Symbian phone to get things working properly again.

  13. Re:Blackberry Killer? by o-hayo · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Hell, I think PalmOne's Treo could kill the blackberry if it offered REAL push email and instant messanger applications.

    There is a REAL push email option. The software you seek is Good. No, really. Check out GoodLink ( www.good.com ) and see how they are already one-upping blackberry by doing crazy wacky things like letting you CHOOSE from a bunch of different phones and setup a new managed phone without touching or cradling it, EVER. Palm and Windows Mobile devices are supported with talks of Symbian on the way. The UI is much nicer than BB phones (according to actual BB users) and aside from issues with the Treo 650 itself, the software has been problem free since day 1.

    Disc: Not from an employee, but a satisfied customer and guy who has to admin the stuff.

  14. Re:Blackberry Killer by MojoStan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Whenever something is described as an XKiller, it never kills product X and such claims are usually FUD or just hype.

    Voodoo Killer? 3Dfx's Voodoo cards were the first products I can remember being targeted for "killing." Graphics history buffs know Voodoo got eaten by NVIDIA.

    Unless the market leader makes it very difficult and/or inconvenient to switch, they can get killed. What makes the Blackberry so un-killable?

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  15. Re:What exactly is a Blackberry Killer? by BewireNomali · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i agree with you on most points.

    however, having used a blackberry, a treo, and a pocket pc device, i honestly have to say that the blackberry's design and form factor are geared more specifically towards effective mobile communication than the other two devices. for calls, both outgoing and incoming, most blackberries are a one-hand device. scroll wheel to a contact number, one click and i'm on a call. one click and I'm taking an incoming call. I can parse contact data from text messages and emails directly into my contacts, again with one handed operation... no stylus... no menus. Its practicality as a communications device more than makes up for its ugly form factor. As an end user, I'm no so much concerned that hardware and software protocols are closed. I care that it works and it's pretty f*cking useful. Well, I do care that exporting data from contacts is a f*ckin bitch, but it's my only major gripe. It works so well that I don't really care that it doesn't look so good. It's like that chick that isn't so hot but is a really good no-strings lay.

    I know I'm gonna get flamed by all the treo fanboys, but I don't get the hype about this POS. I had a palm tungsten C and that's a great f*ckin piece of work... but the treo is a joke. It weighs a ton and is unwieldy. It requires the use of a stylus which means two handed operation which all but obviates the usefulness of a communications device because it precludes multitasking. It's slow, and unlike other palm devices, not cleanly organized and functional. It's like the suicidal really hot chick with an eating disorder who, if you catch her in between well-measured medication doses, might be a really good lay. You're willing to be around her cause she's really hot, but ultimately, it just isn't worth your time.

    pocket PC devices have the most upside to me because they allow for the evolution of handheld devices. in that sense i think pocket pc devices will scale well. But that's the downside. having used many iterations of pocket pcs, you're so locked in by your hardware platform. The exact same build of pocket pc on one handheld could be brilliant on the one hand and excruciating on the other. hardware configurations are the monkey here. If you're not gettig top of the line hardware, you're f*cked. But pocket PC is definitely the dog's bollocks... and they're getting better about one handed use (again, depends on your hardware). this is like the really hot chick that you can only hook up with if you have all the bells and whistles that really hot chicks dig ($) - and she's a great f*cking lay.

    That said... blackberries serve their purpose well, but they will be killed off because I can't see how they can scale their hardware and software. As consumers begin to demand more and more from their handhelds, blackberries will need top-down redesigns to compete. If they're not in the pipeline with that already, I'd say that thy're f*cked.

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