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MPAA Targets TV Download Sites

KenDaMan writes "ZDNet.com is reporting that the MPAA is targeting websites that serve as traffic directors for BitTorrent swaps. From the article: 'Continuing its war on Internet file-swapping sites, the Motion Picture Association of America said Thursday that it has filed lawsuits against a half-dozen hubs for TV show trading.' Apparently it is OK to record TV as long as your aren't sharing it."

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  1. This Blows by bhive01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't own a TiVo, but using BitTorrent I've been watching HDTV quality shows on my PC for about 3 months. Man is it sweet. I hope those **AA bastards lose. When are they gonna learn to adopt a new distribution system rather than beat it with fancy lawyers.

    1. Re:This Blows by bhive01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which is why they should embrace this distribution medium. I'd pay for a "good" TV show without commercials if I could download it for a reasonable amount. I admit I d/l all kinds of shit, but I buy the good stuff. The rest ends up in the big ole' recycle bin in the sky. Instead of suing new distribution methods, why not try it out and see if it works? my 0.02 c

    2. Re:This Blows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Most of the torrents still have the commercials in them, and are the syndication versions. Or, they have "ads" for all the warez kiddies who distribute them.

      What? I've been downloading TV torrents for over a year now, and I have yet to see one with any of the commercials left in or any warez group ads added. I've never seen TV warez groups release a recorded-off-the-air version when a DVD version is available either (as would be the case with your syndicated-and-edited episodes).

      Either you have an unnatural talent for finding the absolute crappiest warez sources, or you're just making shit up. I'm guessing the latter.

  2. Yeah right. by Poietes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They should be thanking us for taking their garbage out. How many quality TV shows are there? How many really? One in every hundred?

    Most TV Shows these days are advertisements anyway. They don't want us to distribute ads?

  3. Fair Use by MyNymWasTaken · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apparently it is OK to record TV as long as your aren't sharing it.

    uhmmm... Yeah. That is what the whole debate over fair use, and backup copies is about.

    It's okay for me to use it for my own personal pleasure, but it isn't alright to rebroadcast it to the world.

    And we wonder why every mass-market electronic media outlet is DRM'ed to the gills.

  4. Rampant Piracy == Business Opportunity by Mazem · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Clearly there is rampant downloading of TV shows. Although the big companies are having a hissy fit about it, to me it is a sign that there is a huge untapped market, much in the same way as the napster phenomenon was indicative of a market for legal downloading mp3's (which iTunes took advantage of). All they have to do is this:

    1: Offer fast TV downloads for free, or offer legal torrents.

    2: Include the advertisements in the shows, and track how many people download them.

    3: Profit!!!

  5. Re:idiots by EvilCabbage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "They DO want people to watch their shows, right?"

    No, they want people to watch the adverts that come with the show, buy the associated lunchboxes, CD singles, T-shirts and beer holding hats.

    TV shows are really becoming vehicles for product launches. Just take a look at MTV and the Xbox unveiling.
    Hell, maybe it's always been that way and I'm only now old enough to appreciate it. When I think back to some of the cartoons I would watch as a small child, they were obviously just 30 minute advertisments for a toy line, same thing we're seeing these days with Pokemon and whatever card collecting cartoon series is big this week.

  6. mod parent up by Luke727 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Recording is fair use. Distributing is not fair use (even if you are not profiting from it). MPAA is well within their right to go after these sites that take part in distributing their stuff. Still, I would be more than willing to pay for a decent quality download straight from the horse's mouth instead of some shitty divx rip that some numbnuts fucked up. Sometimes the lag from broadcast to DVD is just too fucking long. It also sucks if you're in another country and have to wait a couple of months (or even years) until it is broadcast.

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  7. DROP FUCKING DEAD GLICKMAN. by Fortyseven · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Christ, leave us the fuck alone, you greedy fucking little corporate twats. TV swapping does NOTHING to bother you, except exist.

    I'm tired of this shit. Really fucking tired of it. Just leave things as is. People watch it first-run when it airs, you sell your fucking commercials.

    Holy shit I can't even formulate fucking words to express how goddamn angry I am right now.

    "Every television series depends on other markets (such as) syndication and international sales to earn back the enormous investment required to produce the comedies and dramas we all enjoy," MPAA Chief Executive Officer Dan Glickman said in a statement. "Those markets are substantially hurt when that content is stolen."


    You fucking short-sighted asshole. By that logic selling series sets of shows on DVD must 'hurt syndication sales'. Bullshit. A set of 20+ HDTV Divx rips of a show taking up precious space on my hard drive isn't going to beat having a neat box DVD set of my favorite show with commentary and extras.

    And international sales? Bitch, if it wasn't for TV rips I wouldn't be watching getting into the seventh episode of the new Doctor Who. There's already a 2005 series DVD box set sale in me when it comes out, thanks to people making copies of the show for us to enjoy. I'm sure I'm not alone.

    You don't have to control every fucking little inch of your property with an iron fist. Sometimes the fans (remember what fans are?) can help bring in the cash better than whatever half-baked bullshit excuses you try to serve up to the media.

    ADAPT OR DIE.
  8. Re:Yeah, that's kinda the point by 4b696e67 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The tv/movie industry is facing the same problem that the music industry has faced/is facing. They see that thier stranglehold on distribution is in trouble. If it got to the point where people could download any syndicated show from the people who make it for a small fee, then companies like Time/Warner/AOL/etc. couldn't sell their air time for profit. Companies that base their business on being middle men are never going to be for a way to do business without them.

  9. Re:Share! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ah... see... the problem is the mis-use of the word 'share'. People who copy like using the word 'share' for their activities because it lessens the illegal impact of their activities. "It's just sharing... and sharing can't be wrong, can it?"

    And people against copying like to misuse the word 'steal' because it overstates the illegal impact of said activities.

    Both sides play the same game here.

  10. Ah, wrong. by shmlco · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Companies that base their business on being middle men are never going to be for a way to do business without them.

    First, the process you're trying to elucidate is called disintermediation.

    Second, there will always be a place for "middle men" if they provide sufficient value.

    Do I want to deal with every publisher on the planet... or buy from Amazon? Do I want to comb every newspaper for stories and deals... or check Yahoo and eBay? Do I want an acount with every movie studio or NetFlix?

    Do I want to try browsing every site on the web for the information I need... or do I do a Google search.

    They are all "middle men" and they all provide a useful service.

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