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Feds Fund Anti-Terrorism Search Engine

Ben writes "The FAA and researchers at the University at Buffalo are developing an anti-terrorism search engine that will hunt for 'hidden' information -- like how to take down an airliner -- that can be puzzled together by grabbing bits and pieces from unrelated documents. Eventually, they say, the technique can be commercialized to improve search results on more mundane matters.`"

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  1. Okay. I'm sorry. I just have to say. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's the funniest thing I've heard about the government doing since they shut down the "psychic spies" unit ten years ago.

    1. Re:Okay. I'm sorry. I just have to say. by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

      I knew you were going to say that.

      Timesprout
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      NSA
      1984-1994

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  2. One Stop by anandpur · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://cryptome.org/
    Mirrors :
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    http://www.infosecwest.com/cryptome/

    UPDATED CRYPTOME DVD/CDs
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    Donate $25 (yes, only $25) for a DVD or 4 CDs --state preference -- of the Cryptome archives of 25,000 files from June 1996 to February 2005 (~2.4 GB). Click Paypal, use E-gold or mail to John Young, 251 West 89th Street, New York, NY 10024. (E-gold users: send mail address to jya [at] pipeline.com.). Archives include all files of cryptome.org, cryptome2.org, jya.com, cartome.org and eyeball-series.org.

  3. This is a great idea! by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since the government has been trying for decades to obfuscate information and make sure people can't really get useful data, this will help them accomplish that goal.

    ``Saunders, you did it again. If a user visits these 73 pages in the right order, and happens to hear the NBC news theme anywhere during the last 7 pages, it will be intuitively obvious to them how to actually get through to their Congresscritter. We can't have that!''

  4. Interesting... by t_allardyce · · Score: 5, Funny

    I heard there was this device that allowed a person to kill others by simply pointing at them. Apparently it involves bits of metal propelled at high speeds by explosive charges. You reckon they'll be able to find instructions for one of these things so they can censor it?

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    1. Re:Interesting... by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They will try. Hell, the US has 20,000 gun laws and the areas that have the most gun laws have the highests amount of gun/violent crime.

      It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to transfer money from the taxpayers to who ever donated to those that sponsored this.

    2. Re:Interesting... by ptbarnett · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Just because more gun laws and more gun crime are correlated does not mean that one must cause the other.

      Actually, all one has to do is look at the history of enactment of gun control in the US, and you will find that one does cause the other:

      Gun crime causes gun laws.

      Of course, whether gun laws reduce or increase gun crime is still inconclusive. For every example of one, there is a counter-example of the other.

  5. Worthless by AuMatar · · Score: 5, Funny

    UnleSs thEy have A BOt capable of huMan level thinking they won't find a Blasted thing.

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    1. Re:Worthless by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
      > UnleSs thEy have A BOt capable of huMan level thinking they won't find a Blasted thing.

      I assume you also support the Terror Services And Terrorism Reform Act of Prevention [Sponsor -- Sen. Ackbar (R-MC)] bill too, huh?

  6. Watch out if you place any "modern" RPGs... by cnelzie · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and post after action reports to the Internet.

    How many gamers do you think will get tagged by and subsequently visited by authorities who believe they are mixed up in terrorist activities?

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    1. Re:Watch out if you place any "modern" RPGs... by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      so many there database will be useless.

      A friend of mine starting a conversation about WoW in a resturant with the following sentence:
      "I really like killing priests."

      uncomfortable moment there as everyone in line turned to look at him.

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  7. I don't quite get it by wankledot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds to me like it's simply a terrorism search engine designed perfectly for terrorists. What purposes would culling bits and pieces of info about how to take down an airplane serve for anti-terror efforts? You would find out that it's possible to find lots of info on the subject... great... now what? You're not really going to be able to stop that information from existing.

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    1. Re:I don't quite get it by VidEdit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The only use for this search engine is find things to censor. Otherwise, as the parent says, it is just a *terrorism* search engine, not an anti-terrorism search engine.

      I"d be worried that this will be used as a way to identify subjects for federal Patriot act "National Security Letter" searches--the kind that the victim is prohibited by law to revealing to anyone, even a lawyer!

      This is not a good thing.

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  8. www.googlebomb.com by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Funny

    +explosion +"bad arab guys" -"al qaeda" +iraq +france

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    1. Re:www.googlebomb.com by Scootesti · · Score: 2

      Yes, because France (yes I'm canadian) is definately a terrorist hotspot. I know it's been said before but haven't you ever googled "French Military Victories" and hit "I'm feeling lucky"? They don't really pose a significant threat. But don't take my word for it: result here(albinoblacksheep.com) Once you get there, click on one of the links

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  9. It already exists by RandomSkratch · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's already a search engine that compares 2 pieces of data.. it's called googlewhack http://www.googlewhack.com/

  10. FBI Visits Cryptome by anandpur · · Score: 2, Funny
  11. layoffs by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Funny
    That's the funniest thing I've heard about the government doing since they shut down the "psychic spies" unit ten years ago.

    Well, management knew it was time to close shop when, during their talks about whether to do layoffs, employees were asking for raises and coming in late.

  12. Re:How in the world... by leonmergen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is this going to do us any good?

    Yes, research in a field otherwise not really (directly) profitable for commercial applications, is now done by the US government... like the summary says, this could have a good impact on search algorithms.

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  13. terrorist recipe generator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    i'm going to develop a site where you can put in what equipment you have and it will generate instructions on how you can kill the most people with said equipment.

    kind of like macgyver but in reverse.

  14. Oblicatory PI quote by Phrekie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sol Robeson: Hold on. You have to slow down. You're losing it. You have to take a breath. Listen to yourself. You're connecting a computer bug I had with a computer bug you might have had and some religious hogwash. You want to find the number 216 in the world, you will be able to find it everywhere. 216 steps from a mere street corner to your front door. 216 seconds you spend riding on the elevator. When your mind becomes obsessed with anything, you will filter everything else out and find that thing everywhere.

  15. absurd by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Insightful
    anti-terrorism search engine that will hunt for 'hidden' information -- like how to take down an airliner

    To be honest, that sort of thing has never struck me as the kind of problem terrorists have had- usually when they've tried it, they've been pretty successful. They haven't tried many times, and we've seen how close even complete and total idiots like Richard Reid(sp?) can come, despite all our "security measures".

    Nevermind that far more planes crash because of pilot error or mechanical problems than terrorist hijackings- maybe we should rethink priorities here a little?

    What's next? The Department of Transportation determining driver ed manuals need to be pulled because they tell people how to drive a truck, and trucks might be used to carry bombs? Next thing you know, budgets will be hidden because, gasp, we wouldn't want terrorists to know where we spend the most money, they might try to blow it up! Then CSPAN won't be allowed to broadcast senate sessions- wouldn't want terrorists to know when senators are in session. The list goes on and on and on.

    This paranoia is getting REALLY annoying. Folks- come to grips with the fact that freedom might, on occasion, require personal sacrifice. This country is getting really fucking annoying to live in, which is pretty much exactly what terrorists set out to do.

    In the words of Ben Franklin, "they that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

    1. Re:absurd by Silkejr · · Score: 2

      I'm beginning to believe that it's not about terrorism at all and that even the fbi guys know it. It's about controlling people, whether through false terrorism allegations and the fallout they cause or merely the threat of anti-terrorism activities to keep people from speaking political dissent.

  16. Yeah but by isotope23 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    btu wlli ti wrk if I tpey htings ni schu a wya thta u cna raed lla abuto a trreor plt?

    I smee 2 ermmeber taht poeple cn rdae obfsuctaed
    wrds. So hw wlle wlil ti wrok whne I strt tlaknig
    aobut pultonmiu ro drity bmbs?

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    1. Re:Yeah but by psetzer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, you can slow it down and make things much more difficult, but it's not impossible. The words that you've typed are close to the words that you meant to type. But what's close? Any string of finite length can be transformed into any other string of finite length by adding, subtracting, and substituting characters. Two strings have a distance defined by the minimum number of additions, subtractions and substitutions that it takes to transform one into the other. This is called the Levenshtein distance, or for those who can't pronounce it, the edit distance. It's incidentally how most spellcheckers work, and if you run your text through one, it will be more readable by just about everyone. Now, consider using a SOM, or self-organizing map, a type of neural network. It can classify similar objects into single groups most similar to eachother. You can use this to find instances of possible manglings of uranium, plutonium, and most other words, given a large enough sample. Incidentally, just running your post through a spellchecker (Thunderbird's) and picking the default options on everything made the phrase 'dirty bombs' appear normally. So, it helps, but it's not perfect.

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    2. Re:Yeah but by gkitty · · Score: 3, Insightful
  17. the easiest way by Monkeman · · Score: 2, Funny

    The easiest way to take down an airplane is to land a nuke on it. Easy. It's all science.

  18. Surreal & Strangelovian by Withigo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Eventually, they say, the technique can be commercialized to improve search results on more mundane matters.

    What a totally lame plan. I am outraged that my tax dollars are contributing to this.
    For starters, it's totally inefficient.

    A much better program would be to create an Afgan-style terrorist training bootcamp somewhere in the Midwest and invite radical Muslims and people from the militia/posse commitatus scene to "try it out" free of charge. Then "study" them afterwords in order to better understand real-life terrorism. Hell, they should even hire high ranking Al-Qaida members to staff the thing. And be sure to give them full amnesty, citizenship, high level security clearances, and six-figure salaries.

    Eventually the neocons will have their terrorists... even if they have to create them.

    Alas, how America has fallen...

  19. Hidden Message! by whackco · · Score: 2, Funny

    The TRUTH is that this post is in-fact a terrorist transmission, using their technology I have decoded it:

    "The FAA and researchers at the University at Buffalo are developing an anti-terrorism search engine that will hunt for 'hidden' information -- like how to take down an airliner -- that can be puzzled together by grabbing bits and pieces from unrelated documents. Eventually, they say, the technique can be commercialized to improve search results on more mundane matters.`"

    And I didn't have to spend 10 quadrillion dollars to find that hidden message ;-)

  20. Re:We have your IP, prepare to die by djhack · · Score: 3, Funny

    yeah , we got him too
    127.0.0.1
    that bastard is going down !!!!1!{#^G. .. . NO CARRIER

  21. Re:i can only imagine the search terms by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Insightful
    i can only imagine what idiots are out there that still believe the US invaded Iraq for oil.

    Well, it makes more sense than a lot of the alternatives, like the idea that we invaded for idealistic causes like liberty and human rights and all that shit. If that were really the case, why has the Bush administration proven so reluctant to get involved in places like Liberia and the Sudan, where there's a lot of humanitarian issues, but no economic interests?

    If you really want to get a measure of the character of a person, check out how they treat people who they have nothing to gain from. If you apply that same criterion to the United States, I don't think it comes off as very well. The United States' actions in Iraq are- well, at least were intended to be- self serving.

    What those self-serving motives were, I don't know. Part of it, I think, was that after the fall of the USSR, the U.S. became the sole remaining superpower. The Neocons wanted to cement that position by knocking off one of the few guys who challenged us, acquiring strategically important bases in the Middle East, and using that position to ensure that America would continue to be able to access the cheap oil it needs to grow. The liberty of the Iraqis was like all the Halliburton contracts- not the main reason for invading, just a bonus.

  22. I can see it now by webappsec · · Score: 3, Funny

    $ telnet terrorsearchengine Trying terrorsearchengine... Connected to terrorsearchengine. Escape character is '^]'. GET /search?query=WhereIsOsamaBinLaden HTTP/1.0 Host: terrorsearchengine HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 23:41:17 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) Location: http://nobodyfuckingknows/

  23. Sounds like a waste of money by HairyCanary · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Does the FAA and the University of Buffalo think that they can do a better job of searching web pages than Google does?

    If they really want quick results, it seems to me that our tax dollars would be better spent hiring Google to whip them up something instead. Or better yet, just save the tax dollars altogether and find something more useful to spend it on.

  24. Re:I don't know about you... by symbolic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...but *I* sure as hell feel safer.

    Huge deficits, imaginary dragons, a new mecca for terrorism, the erosion of freedom, all this shiny new tecknarlogy to watch our every move...

    Oops, guess not.

  25. First discoveries are on Slashdot by Fortran+IV · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Combining "bits and pieces" from this posting and the preceding five (some slight allowance for tense and common words must be made), I find the following alarming statements:

    the Internet community / [is] publishing / anonymous / suggestions for / terrorism / [in] article[s] running on Yahoo News / AOL, MSN, and Earthlink

    rumored / revelation that / three recent / occurrences / (touches / 30,000 people / collectively) / will change the landscape / forever

    'hidden' information / [has] doubled / success in this endeavor / - "nearly everyone will go" / - about 10% of IBM's staff / is already / infected

    pro-freedom / dissidents / are looking for ways / to take down an airliner / for nothing

    commercialized / products/procedures/systems / [and] hardware / too risky / [at] exaggerated prices / as high as $950

    bits and pieces / at an unidentified / 'banned' sites / can be puzzled together / to improve / technique

    an unidentifed / spokeswoman for the / FAA / points out that / [their] staff / [has] commitment to / more mundane matters

    So Slashdot is advising the Internet terrorist community where to look for information on biological warfare and anti-aircraft weapons.

    Yipe!

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  26. Re:Something like google. by pipingguy · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Remember that what terrorists need most is willing martyrs (typically very uneducated and likely fanatical or forced) and bloodthirsty hate (violent, psychopathic minds), not technological information.

  27. Truth is by MerlinTheWizard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    as of late, any endeavor related to anti-terrorism and that looks remotely "intelligent" has a good chance of getting funded by the US government. I think that's as simple as that. Also, you wouldn't believe how many "anti-terrorism" devices and concepts have been granted a US patent the last 4 years.

  28. Re:I can see it now... by planetoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I read the article and I'm highly skeptical this thing would work as intended, anyway. The most results it will probably retrieve for the feds would be FAQs for the Grand Theft Auto games.

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