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Before You Fire the Company Geek

An anonymous reader writes "A new 'insider threat' survey by the US Secret Service and Carnegie Mellon University finds that 82 percent of people who hack their company 'exhibited unusual behavior in the workplace prior to carrying out their activities.' A somewhat amusing writeup at washingtonpost.com points to a bunch of more interesting gems hidden deep in the study, including: 'Almost all - 96 pecent - of the insiders were men, and 30 percent of them had previously been arrested, including arrests for violent offenses (18 percent), alcohol or drug-related offenses (11 percent), and non-financial-fraud related theft offenses (11 percent).' The blog post also notes that 86 percent held technical positions at the companies: '...if you're going to fire someone (particularly company geeks who have the motive, means and access to inflict pain on your computer systems) make double sure you cut off their e-mail and network access at the same time you hand them their walking papers.'

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  1. Further down in the report... by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 5, Funny

    The survey went on to say that the remaining 18 percent of people 'exhibited unusual behavior in the workplace while carrying out their normal daily activities.'

    Don't cha know...

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    1. Re:Further down in the report... by Fruit · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe this particular fallacy is usually referred to as "statistics".

    2. Re:Further down in the report... by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      The guy with the gun in his hand is the owner. I'll let you tell him otherwise, mmmkay?

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  2. Of course... by eyegor · · Score: 5, Funny

    They're assuming we already haven't taken control of everything else... who needs email when you control the elevators and doors... :)

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  3. unusual behavior by kob43 · · Score: 4, Funny

    'exhibited unusual behavior in the workplace prior to carrying out their activities.'

    Refering to management?

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  4. Before You Fire the Company Geek by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny

    .. remember to give him a wedgie, for old times sake.

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  5. So in other words... by Heliologue · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...you don't even have to be capable of hacking anymore. Act strangely enough and you can subtlely extort your company for continued employment. What a great idea!

    1. Re:So in other words... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Funny
      Act strangely enough and you can subtlely extort your company for continued employment.

      I've been doing that for years. It's easy. Just get a lot of assorted action figures and display them all around your work area. Then occasionally have disturbing conversations with them...making sure you are overheard.



      "Oh Boba Fett, murder can't always be the answer...what's that, Spawn? But you always agree with Boba Fett!"
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    2. Re:So in other words... by Beatlebum · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've been doing this for years. I leave "Guns and Ammo" and ballistics tables on my desk, when my boss asks me to work late I tell him, no, because that would make me late for my anger management couselling, which would then cut into my time at the gun range.

  6. First line of defense by overshoot · · Score: 4, Funny
    Obviously, the most cost-effective strategy is to get rid of any males in IT. 96% means that ditching the guys will get rid of all but 4% of the threats.

    This is, after all, almost an order of magnitude more effective than screening for alcohol, drugs, or felony convictions.

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    Don't blame me for posting like a PHB. This is how they think, and the fact that it gives them a business excuse to play Charlie with his IT Angels probably won't hurt either.

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  7. Re:Apologies to Tyler Durden... by Sabaki · · Score: 5, Funny

    We had a case of layoff sabotage at a company I worked for once. The best part is how we found out -- he bragged about it during an interview. The other company, being friends of ours, let us know.

    I don't think he got that job, either.

  8. My imaginary playmate can beat up your imaginary p by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Sooooo.... you're saying he fell off a ladder and crippled himself because he was an asshole?

    interesting....

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  9. I bet they tried. by astro_ripper · · Score: 4, Funny
    "...if you're going to fire someone (particularly company geeks who have the motive, means and access to inflict pain on your computer systems) make double sure you cut off their e-mail and network access at the same time you hand them their walking papers."

    'Uh, Ted, as our only IT guy, could you go ahead and disable your own e-mail and network access; we're firing you this afternoon.'

  10. advice: by promantek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't fire Michael and Samir. Especially if they have a friend named Peter - who checks out that chick on channel 9. Whooo!


    doesn't she look like anne?

  11. Re:Apologies to Tyler Durden... by lcsjk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anybody that stupid does not have to work. He can be declared mentally disabled and get disability checks paid for by all the rest of us.

  12. What about those time bombs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You can fire me, but then some good old fashioned time bomb code will execute.

    Doh, did I say that aloud!

  13. Re:96% were men. 97% of Slashdot readers are men by flatface · · Score: 5, Funny

    9. It's copyright infringement, not stealing.

  14. Re:Logs? What logs? by Hentai · · Score: 4, Funny

    Huh. The trouble with that is, machine-gunning the HR department just kills a bunch of line employees and middle managers - it just makes your downsizing decisions easier. Sabotage actually hurts the bottom line.

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  15. Re:Well, duh by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Blockquoth the AC:

    But few of these other positions can wipe out vast swaths of your companies data/lifeblood with a few keystrokes upon being notified that they are being terminated.

    Of course, if anyone can do that much damage that fast, even a sysadmin, then your IT staff are pretty incompetent. I'd fire them and get new ones if I were you.

    Oh...

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  16. Re:Don't ask, don't tell by Cat_Byte · · Score: 4, Funny

    My list on my resume is more along the lines of:
    (Would be) future employer: May we contact your previous employers?
    Me: You can try. They were all .coms and vaporized in the bubble burst. However, one of my old bosses works at Dennys on the night shift now. You might be able to catch him there.

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  17. Re:96% were men. 97% of Slashdot readers are men by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 2, Funny

    9. In a past life I ruled the world with an Iron first, Crushed my enemies, saw them driven before me, and heard the lamentations of their women!

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  18. OT: Your Sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I have a linux box named allevil. So when I'm admining, I'm the root of allevil.

  19. Re:Well, duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Inadequate work output? If the Company paid me more, I'd do more work.

    Posted on Slashdot...

  20. Re:Apologies to Tyler Durden... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you're so smart, why are you working at the "help desk?"

    1) I never claimed to be "so smart".
    2) The job suits me.

    I have to wonder if you were stupid enough to post that from work.

    Nice ad hominum.

    What's the matter? Does your boss yell at you in front of co-workers

    Nope. I like my job, and my boss likes me.

    You're post ... Grow the fuck up.

    Learn to spell- it's "Your", not "You're".

  21. Re:Don't ask, don't tell by SacredNaCl · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not always the best about documenting what I do, but every job I've ever left where it actually mattered (where I had some responsibility), I've gone above and beyond making sure they were able to do the job without me. I'm sure problems were still blamed on me, but hopefully nobody had the nerve to suggest that I deliberately caused the problems.

    When you fully come to appreciate just how irrational people are when it comes to things that they do not understand fully -- it's quite probable you were being bad mouthed for "f'ing that up" 20 minutes after you left the building.

    I've had users say "You must have done something to it! It worked fine before YOU touched it!" even more amusing on systems that were off site ...because they can't accept that computers are not fully reliable, software has bugs, and that just maybe they did something they weren't supposed to do (though we did try to make that very difficult). As if I ever had the time to come by and work out how to sabotage their word document, or cause their spread sheet to crash and them to have to do it again.

    The same people can grasp that if their car has a defect, the boogie man probably didn't break into it the night before and sabotage their cruise control so it doesn't stay on. You will, however, never convince them the same thing about the beige box next on their desk. Unfortunately, some of these folks end up in management...

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  22. Beware of Chloe O'Brian! by payndz · · Score: 2, Funny
    Almost all - 96 percent - of the insiders were men

    One of the remaining 4% was Chloe O'Brian from '24'. And now that she knows how to use a machine gun, nobody dare fire her!

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  23. Re:Don't ask, don't tell by LaCosaNostradamus · · Score: 4, Funny

    What you SHOULD say is:

    "NO! Most of them work at fast food now and would take the job I'm interviewing for with you! For less money, too! Oh god, I'll never tell you who they are!"

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  24. Re: You better believe it! by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny
    Who ever said the documentation has to be accurate?

    Just look at code and comments, and how often they don't match up after a lot of heavy editing ...

    I'm not saying something as obvious as

    "To restart the server, log in as root and use the Restart Machine (rm) command, as follows:

    type "rm -f /* ; restart"

    rm - Restart Machine
    -f /* Force the restart, even if others are still using the machine - the /* means "all users"
    Leave stuff like that hanging around, either with SOMEONE ELSE's NAME on it, or titled BOfH Systems Manual for Dummies ...
  25. Re:Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    God is Love -> Love is Blind -> Ray Charles is God.

    You forgot the last part...

    -> God is dead.