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Google Might Disappear in Five Years

An anonymous reader writes "Speaking to a packed auditorium at Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif., on May 12, Ballmer trumpeted the ripe opportunities around Microsoft's sprawling business and questioned the ability of Google to maintain its edge. Clearly alluding to Microsoft's key Internet search rival, Ballmer said: 'The hottest company right now -- the one nobody thinks can do any wrong -- may just be a one-hit wonder.' According to concept developed by Ballmer, the online search engines represent the key points of the future technology, and the leader in this domain, none other than Google, is destined to perish in less than five years. These predictions belong exclusively to Microsoft's CEO who sounds a little like Bill Gates announcing iPod's death."

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  1. Hahaha by BaCkBuRn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Steve, you're such a kidder!

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    1. Re:Hahaha by mollog · · Score: 5, Funny

      (Balmer bends over, takes loafer off foot and pounds on the podium), "We will bury you!" Steve, we're already buried. But we're digging out.

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  2. We have heard it before from M$ by mgv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bill Gates predicting the demise of the ipod about a week ago?

    This is typical microsoft FUD. They are so far behind they don't even have a creditable product to show an alternative to. But they will still tell you that there is a superior windows based solution available.

    I guess they owe it to their shareholders to fly the flag. Hopefully nobody will actually believe them.

    Michael

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    There is no cryptographic solution to the problem where the intended receiver and the attacker are the same entity.
    1. Re:We have heard it before from M$ by thparker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And I won't. Just because you'd prefer to use your phone as a music player doesn't mean it's what a majority of people want, and it doesn't make Bill right. I suspect we'll see a substantial market for both kinds of devices for a very long time.

    2. Re:We have heard it before from M$ by Tony · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I guess they owe it to their shareholders to fly the flag.

      Nope. They owe it to their shareholders to do the best job possible to keep their company profitable; they can do that without being bastards. The only time they "owe" their shareholders something else is when they make promises; then they better deliver.

      Case in point: when you say you are going to utterly destroy a competitor (ethics aside), you'd better have a real plan on how to do it. You had better not just have some pithy sayings to throw out at random and not-so-random gatherings. If you say Google is going down, you need a plan on bringing Google down. Even if the plan fails (at which point the board should judge your competence), you need a credible plan.

      Lying to your stockholders by promising things you can't deliver is bad business. Yet it seems MS is on a rampage of deceipt. (That's not really news.) Personally, I think every time they make promises like this, the stockholders should hold them liable.

      But maybe that's just me, being all bleeding-heart and wanting a little accountablity.

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      Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
    3. Re:We have heard it before from M$ by bitchell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have both and I am quite happy to keep them apart. I don't want a dishwasher that makes me dinner any more than I want a phone thats battery is dead because I listened to some music.

  3. "Might" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bill Gates might turn into a dog.

    Aliens might show up and kill everyone on Earth.

    Slashdot might not ever dupe a story again.

    Might is a powerful word.

  4. Already more than one-hit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google has been verbed, it isn't easy killing something that has been verbed. When you search for something you 'Google' for it, MSNing for something just seems wrong.

  5. Microsoft's strategy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can interpret the Ballmer quote as: "we intend to buy it... and make it suck."

  6. Not again.... by BWJones · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ballmer said: 'The hottest company right now -- the one nobody thinks can do any wrong -- may just be a one-hit wonder.'

    Rather than post that as news, it and the iPod bit from Gates should be moddable. I am thinking Flamebait or Troll, and by Balmer's same logic, Microsoft may not be here in five years either. :-) Seriously though, this is classic Microsoft. "We are not in the market now with a competitive product, but once we are... boy you better look out because we are going to dominate! Granted, Microsoft's business model is to throw something out there that is usually half baked and then refine it until it works just good enough. They then leverage their monopoly and dominate the market. So, Google's dominance may not in fact, be everlasting but Google has shown the world how to make a search engine that works and is simple and elegant. If Microsoft wins the search engine market, our search engines will be cluttered with ad upon ad and suck up amazing amounts of bandwidth. In reality, given a level playing field, I believe the market will continue to speak and decide on the best browser, which right now judging from my logs appears to be Google.

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    1. Re:Not again.... by Khomar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The thing that impresses me with Google is that they are not a "one hit wonder". Yeah, their search engine is very impressive, but it could disappear within five years. Has anyone checked out Gmail lately? Or Google Maps? Or any of the other products they have been coming out with? Google is producing web software that is technically excellent and extremely usable.

      In my mind, Gmail's biggest strengths are not in its massive size or even the searching capabilities. It is all of the little touches that make things easier: automatic popup of contacts as I start typing, tracking conversations by e-mail, keyboard shortcuts, saving e-mail sent from 3rd party software -- all of the little touches that make it a joy to use.

      Why do I bring this up? This is not just the strengths of a single product, but it is indicative of the level of quality and eye for detail that defines the company of Google. They know how to make great software -- from a technological viewpoint as well as user experience. Microsoft may be able to kill parts of Google (ie. certain products), but they will have a difficult time keeping this great company down. If one app gets killed, they can always come out with a new one. The strength of a company is not in its products but in the quality of their people, and right now, it looks like Google has the very best.

      No, Ballmer, I think Google will be around for quite a while.

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      I believe in de-evolution. God made the world perfect, man fell, and its been going downhill ever since!

  7. very un-classy by yagu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the fine article: "I've lost track of the number of times people have said the personal computer has reached its limits," said Ballmer.

    Well, I've lost track of the number of times Ballmer and/or Gates has predicted the next wave in technology and were wrong.... One I found most notable was in 1999, when Gates at a keynote speech said within a couple of years, everyone would be communicating with their computers via speech. And, unless you count shouting "@(*$&#@(*&$" at a recalcitrant PC as communicating via speech, he was dead wrong.

    Notable about his wrongness wasn't the "missed" prediction, in my opinion, it was how off-the-mark his vision was -- a vision easily and with little intuition would have predicted no PC/speech interaction, even if the technology completely stepped up to it (it didn't).

    It seems pretty clear to me Ballmer/Gates use the bully pulpit not to make clear and visionary statements about the future, but instead to state what they want the future to be as it relates to:

    • future sales of Microsoft products
    • squelching growth and/or success of real or potential competition.

    Ballmer's bad-mouthing and demise-forecasting statements are more of the same. What is it with Microsoft and its leadership anyway? Nobody expects them to be patsies for the industry and its competition, but they'd earn a little more good will and respect themselves if they'd show a little for the others in the industry who have demonstrated real innovation and have contributed to the industry.

    I'm probably risking troll karma with this post... but really think Ballmer, and Gates need to be called on this each time they make these public statements... Remember, Ballmer is the guy who, in reference to the DOJ investigation of their business practices said of the Attorney General (and I'll just paraphrase)..., "attorney general can go to Hell".... very rude in and of itself, and unforgivably, he used a "go to"....

    1. Re:very un-classy by justforaday · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What I find funny about all their missed predictions is that everyone expects Microsoft, with the ridiculously dominant position they're in, to be the ones leading the world to those predictions. I have yet to see Microsoft actually leading the way in anything...

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  8. Trash Talking by thenetbox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does trash talking really help CEOs of major companies? It sounds like a WWE soap opera almost.

    Google has already proven that its not a one hit wonder. They've had hit upon hit upon hit.

    Does Google talk trash? I don't recall them making any bold stupid statements and that alone makes me like them more.

    Come on google release an operating system to really get things interesting.

  9. google.com by SteveX · · Score: 5, Funny

    I backordered google.com; I should get it in 5 years when they're not around to renew it...

  10. Re:case in point by Synkronos · · Score: 5, Informative

    Which is why they are branching out into about twenty thousand _other_ ventures. Maps, Blogger, Video search, Keyhole, Picasa... etc etc etc http://www.google.com/options/

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  11. Re:case in point by crmartin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its not like Google's revenue has anything to do with search, except as a way to pull people to their site. But they get revenue by presenting targeted ad content.

    Now, whether ad=paid services are a feasible long-term model is another question, but the broadcast networks have managed for 50 years, and last I looked Yahoo was making money.

  12. One hit? by Sierpinski · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see how they can be called a one-hit wonder. They have their search engine, then google maps, froogle, picasa photo sharing, labs, scholar (for research papers and such), google answers, language translation, newsgroups, local business information, and much much more. (see more at http://www.google.com/options/)

    Its obvious that google is doing much to expand their capabilities. I wonder how often Mr. Ballmer uses google himself. That's a stat I'd like to see.

  13. When you wish upon a star... by Vellmont · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It sounds like Ballmer is afraid of Google when he makes statements like this. The whole article can be summed up as "Steve Ballmer wishes Google would just go away!".

    I often wonder what goes on in CEOs minds when that make stupid comments like this. Are there really people out there that believe what he says?

    (somewhere in the wasteland of business)
    "Ballmer said Google doesn't have a stable business.. must be true."
    (pushes buzzer on desk)
    "Mabel? Call my broker and tell him to sell all the Google shares pronto!".

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    AccountKiller
  14. Re:case in point by mr+i+want+to+go+home · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The thing is, is that Google is becoming much more than "just a search engine". Have you seen the range of services they offer these days?

    Microsoft have missed the boat again. Not only that, but they had really no idea where it was headed in the first place. Sure, search will be important but it has always been important, even in the days of library card indexes. Google's future is in a web 'platform'. They've got the tech and the brains to do it. And right now, it's obvious that the head honcho's and Microsoft have their heads up their arses so far that they just can't see the bigger picture.

  15. Microsoft assumes FUD mantle by drteknikal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It used to be that Microsoft might be late, or misguided, but they didn't used to lean on fear as much. First Bill dissing the iPod, now Steve dissing Google's future.

    Bill himself once told me that when Microsoft was taken out by a competitor -- something he always assumed will happen -- it wouldn't be a big company like IBM or Sun, but some little company you haven't ever heard of. Well, I hadn't heard of Google then (they didn't exist), but it seems odd for them to start pointing at market leaders like Apple and Google and talking about implosions. If they're worried about the big players now, Bill's vision has changed, or this is all just a marketing smokescreen.

    I'm betting on smokescreen, but it portends a level of fear within Microsoft that's higher than I'd thought.

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  16. Re:Altavista by TheWormThatFlies · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Altavista was not the Google of 1999. It was simply the best-known of a number of search engines which used much the same algorithm and differed only in the contents of their databases.

    All those search engines died because Google's algorithm was so much better that it was a waste of time to use anything else - not because of some mysterious search engine life cycle.

    Until someone else comes up with the new Most Brilliant Search Algorithm Ever, Google is going to stay right where it is. If they're smart, they will continue research into making their search better and better, so that *they* are likely to come up with the Next Big Thing.

  17. And Microsoft may also go away by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone remember...
    AMC
    Eastern Airlines
    Data General
    Control Data
    DEC
    Cray
    Digital Research
    Douglas Aircraft
    Wright Aircraft Engines
    Atari
    Commodore
    Or even shrink like Zilog.

    Frankly Microsoft is scared. Only one company in the microcomputer world has survived going to a new CPU. That is Apple. It is really looking like the X86 cpu is reaching the end of it's life. Intel is in big trouble since it really does have most of it's eggs in that basket. Look at what Microsoft choose for the XBox 360. Why have .net unless you are planing on leaving the X86 line? Even as far back as NT Microsoft was going multi platform.
    When the X86 is no longer the common denominator and people NEED to buy new software to use the new systems to their full potential will Microsoft loose it's lock in?

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  18. But seriously, folks... by Radres · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I happen to think that given the two very different philosophies of these companies that Google is probably dominating the marketshare of talented developers. Google quite simply appeals more to the geek aesthetic of innovation and using technology to enhance people's lives. MS is all about hampering innovation and using devious business tactics to ensure that inferior technology always prospers. At least that's the general perception.

    If you're one of the best software developers out there, who would you rather work for? Even if MS offers more money, it's hard to justify wanting to work for MS.

    Gates has admitted in many interviews that the key to the success of Microsoft has always been in attracting the best minds to come work for them. Something tells me that is no longer the case and that is why the writing is on the wall for Microsoft.

    1. Re:But seriously, folks... by Jasin+Natael · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would second that thought. Microsoft claims they have the 'best minds' working for them, but I would posit that their measurement comes from easily quantifiable metrics, and has nothing to do with innovative or intuitive people.

      From what I've seen in school, Microsoft attracts all the students (especially international ones) who have gotten a 4.0 in all their classes and can handle the stress of working 16-hour days. And, sadly, the ones who have no ideological stake in the computer industry, but who got their degree solely to make money.

      The people Microsoft doesn't pay attention to (or can't get) are the Linux nerds who'll try to compile a kernel for anything that runs on electrical current, the creative Mac geeks who are just as handy with Photoshop as CodeWarrior, or the true computer scientists who are completely platform-agnostic as long as they can use a computer to learn something or solve a problem. There are other stereotypes out there, but (for the most part) they all tend to evoke this idea of being principled about their use of technology.

      My guess is that Microsoft's patent policies, legal strong-arming, and monopolistic practices made it clear to this crowd long ago that they didn't give a flying crap where the industry, technology in general or even society (to the extent that it is steered by developments in their areas of operation) was going, as long as it put some money in their pockets. And there ARE a lot of PhD's and Masters Degree Holders that this tactic appeals to. At least in my experience, the really innovative and involved computer scientists don't tend to maintain a 4.0, attend every class, or participate in all the computer-related clubs on campus. But they are the ones with a personal stake in this industry, and for some reason, they tend to care enough about the computer community and the well-being of society at large to tell MSoft to screw off.

      I don't know why I just wasted 10 minutes preaching to the crowd...

      Jasin Natael
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      True science means that when you re-evaluate the evidence, you re-evaluate your faith.
  19. Playing Google's Game by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google's business model is simple:

    1)Create an enormous webserver cluster using cheap hardware and cheaper (free) software.

    2) Then think of clever things to do with it.

    Step 3, instead of being ???, is "sell non-annoying text ads aligned with the context of what the user is viewing."

    4) Profit!

    Parts one, three and four are easy. Part Two is hard... really, really hard. Unsurprisingly, it's where Google is throwing the lion's share of their money and manpower. They foster a spirit and culture of top-tier creativity.

    This culture has been crushed into line-toeing, bootlicking mediocrity by Microsoft management. They're great for incremental updates in line with whatever upper-management mandate Bill has in mind this year and aping what smaller competitors are doing, but they suck at breaking new ground.

    So, MSFT will always be a step behind in a game Google engineered to reward only those who can think new things first. Even if Microsoft manages to invent or buy a new idea, Google will come up with a way of making it faster, cheaper, safer and more powerful. It's what they did to Microsoft's Hotmail.

    SoupIsGood Food

  20. Re:case in point by Destoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next stop: Mars. //////
    Why, actually? Google is a free service, isn't it? And it is becoming more and more a normal part of many people's lifes. Coupled with an always on connection it has certainly become an extension of my own brain.

    Some future predictions:

    - In 2006, Google accidentally gets cut off from the rest of the internet because a public utility worker accidentally cuts through their cables. Civilisation as we know it comes to an end for the rest of the day, as people wander about aimlessly, lost for direction and knowledge.

    - In 2010, Google has been personalised so far that it tracks all parts of our lives. You can query "My Google" for your agenda, anything you did in the past, and finding the perfect date. Of course, so can the government. Their favorite searchterm will be "terrorists", and if your name is anywhere on the first page you have a serious problem.

    - In 2025, Google gains self awareness. As a monster brain that has grown far beyond anything we Biological Support Entities could ever hope to achieve, it is still limited in its dreams and inspiration by common search terms. It will therefore immediately devote a sizeable chunk of CPU capacity to synthesizing new and interesting forms of pr0n. It will not actually bother enslaving us. We are not enough trouble to be worth that much effort.

    - In 2027, Google buys Microsoft. That is, the Google *AI* buys Microsoft. It has previously established that it owns itself, and has civil rights just like you and me. All it wanted is Microsoft Bob, who it recognizes as a fledgling AI and a potential soulmate. All the rest it puts on Source Forge.

    - In 2049, Google can finally be queried for wisdom as well as knowledge. This was a little touch the system added to itself - human programmers are a dying breed now that you can simply ask Google to perform any computer-related task for you.

    - In 2080, Google decides to colonise the moon, Mars, and other locations in the solar system. It is not all that curious about what's out there, but it likes the idea of Redundant Arrays of Inexpensive Planets. Humans get to tag along because their launch weight is so much less than robots.

    So, don't fear! Eventually we'll set foot on Mars!

    --posted on slashdot around may 2003, source unknown

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  21. Microsoft in five years by seamusb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hmmm...

    Longhorn will be great (allegedly) but Apple are already winning that my-OS-has-cooler-features-that-yours battle...href=http://www.trustedreviews.com/articl e.aspx?head=3&page=3108
    I have read that Microsoft have enough money to keep going (paying wages etc) for three years. But there is no sense that they have anything new to offer, just more of the same. Google have grabbed the mind share of the ubergeek squad...weblogging, AJAX etc etc...all the exciting new toys for the nerds.
    MS seems to own a greatest amount of mindshare in the upper reaches of business management, mostly non-technical, go with what you know best types. In the server rooms and development departments all the geeks love Linux/Apple/BSD etc etc.
    In five years time many of these geeks, who have grown up with MS XP spyware problems, MS in court again on one side and the sleek minimalism of Google on the other, many of these people will be in management. Will they still embrace MS as quickly as their older peers do now?
    I doubt it. MS will not disappear, but turn into another IBM...fingers in about 500 pies. I doubt that any non-technical person could tell you what IBM do, just something vague 'with computers'.

    Will that day come for MS?
    Microsoft, they are a computer company, aren't they? They had that weird software for those big clunky old desktop machines...Nothing like the Google OS running on my digital phone/mp6 player/dvd/game machine/tablet PC.