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Cockroach-Controlled Robot

robotsrule writes "The latest issue of Make Magazine volume 2 from O'Reilly publishing has an article on a cockroach controlled robot. Roboticist Garnet Hertz has mounted a Giant Madagascan Hissing Cockroach that drives a small mobile robot around by walking on top of a Kensington trackball. There is a row of proximity sensor triggered LEDs that shine light in the roach's eyes, making him steer the robot since roaches instinctively avoid light. Garnet's web page 'Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine' details the project with several images of the roach in action. Debugging the project is inherently impossible."

157 comments

  1. She? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's ambiguous whether the system is controlling the insect or whether she's controlling it.

    I, for one, welcome our enslaved, robot-controlling females.

    1. Re:She? by Metteyya · · Score: 1

      Yes, but do they run Linux?

  2. Debugging impossible? by NoseBag · · Score: 5, Funny

    Debugging the project is inherently impossible.

    They are obviously not using RAID.

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    1. Re:Debugging impossible? by Tsar · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, a RAID (Redundant Array of Insect Drivers) would make such a device much more reliable--as long as it wasn't implemented as JBOD (Just a Bunch of Dead ones).

    2. Re:Debugging impossible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can anyone give me examples of jokes that are 'double reinforced' like the parent? If you don't know what I mean, consider the fact that the joke is still funny even if RAID is not a computer-related acronym. So the whole 'debugging? Use bug spray' joke works, yet there's also the double whammy of RAID being a computer-related acronym.

      There have been several times that I have seen a joke and you think to yourself 'Oh my God it works on so many levels' and you just have to admire the wordplay.

    3. Re:Debugging impossible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude, go have a beer.

    4. Re:Debugging impossible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've had a few already, which is probably the motivation behind the original post. :)

    5. Re:Debugging impossible? by darkonc · · Score: 1

      Expect it to be followed closely by a spider-controlled robet.

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    6. Re:Debugging impossible? by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dr. Zoidberg, is that you?

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    7. Re: Debugging impossible? by Tsar · · Score: 1

      Can anyone give me examples of jokes that are 'double reinforced' like the parent?

      I'd suggest the oft-seen "This site is best viewed with a computer." Web literati would see this as a sarcastic comment the difficulty of rendering webpages on a PDA or cellphone screen, while most folks would just think, "Yeah, a computer sure helps!" There are plenty of other examples, but that's as far offtopic as I care to wander.

      Speaking of wandering, I wonder if they've tried tactile feedback? It seems to me that it would be simple enough to install an array of rubber-tipped actuators around the cockroach pilot, then prod it when the robot hit an obstacle on that side or goes too far in that direction.

    8. Re:Debugging impossible? by scolbe · · Score: 5, Funny
      Debugging the project is inherently impossible.


      That's not a bug!.. that's a feature.
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    9. Re:Debugging impossible? by Brutulf · · Score: 0

      I don't get it. What's the other meaning of "RAID"? :S

    10. Re:Debugging impossible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RAID (Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks)

      "RAID was first patented by IBM in 1978. In 1988, RAID levels 1 through 5 were formally defined by David A. Patterson, Garth A. Gibson and Randy H. Katz in the paper, "A Case for Redundant Arrays of Inexpensive Disks (RAID)" (http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~garth/RAIDpaper/Patterso n88.pdf). This was published in the SIGMOD Conference 1988: pp 109-116. The term "RAID" started with this paper." - From wikipedia.

      http:///http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_arr ay_of_independent_disks>

    11. Re:Debugging impossible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    12. Re:Debugging impossible? by cooley · · Score: 1

      In the states, RAID is a much-advertised brand of anti-insect spray.

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    13. Re:Debugging impossible? by redJag · · Score: 1

      whats a robet?

    14. Re:Debugging impossible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Besides the above, there is also another meaning.

    15. Re:Debugging impossible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a female robot

  3. Uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If this isn't a Rube Goldberg contraption, I don't know what is.

    It's very cool, but odd. I mean, seriously: shine a light in a certain way to make a Giant Hissing cockroach move in a certain direction, which then moves the robot?

    I assume there are simpler ways of directing robots.

    1. Re:Uh... by ghjm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What's interesting about this is the way it combines biological and machine intelligence. Cockroaches (at least the kind we get here; I've never seen a Giant Madagascar Hissing Cockroach -for which, I heartily thank whatever power there may be) have a fairly complex pattern of behavior; they "understand" finding food, running away from predators, locating good places to hide and live, etc, etc. These behaviors are not easy to model using machine intelligence; at least, not in a way that works in the real world.

      Imagine if you could program a cockroach. You have chemical and optical receptors, and the ability to move individual legs and appendages. You have to be able to do things like "go forward" and "eat this object," both of which are quite complex in practice. You also have to answer questions like "is it food" or "is it scary." And you need an overriding program that prioritizes the various items in your environment and decides, at each moment, what you should do next. How many lines of C code do you think this would take? How do you suppose any given program might fare in the real world, competing for resources (and trying to avoid being eaten or stepped on) alongside real cockroaches?

      So what if it turns out that real cockroaches are way ahead of the state of the art in machine intelligence - but you find cockroach behavior useful in some potential system? Instead of waiting for AI research to catch up to the cockroach, why not just put a cockroach in the driver's seat and let it run the robot. Treat it as a "black box" heuristic machine. Use machine intelligence only to constrain its behavior.

      As to shining a light on the cockroach to get it to run a particular direction, you have to ask: Why not just turn refuse to obey the cockroach's commands if you are going "the wrong way" according to the machine intelligence? I don't know the answer, but I didn't have to face the task of actually building the thing. However, I would imagine it is much simpler to turn LEDs on and off than to get involved in the mechanics of how the legs work.

      If you can figure out how cockroaches (or some other control animal) identifies friend and foe, how they focus on a particular target, and what their attack behaviors are, it's entirely plausible that you could use this in a military application. Imagine armored, landscape-destroying robots with giant laser weapons; piloted, perhaps, by kittens. I'm sure this is where the research will inevitably lead.

      -Graham

    2. Re:Uh... by cosmol · · Score: 1
      Why not just turn refuse to obey the cockroach's commands if you are going "the wrong way"

      The concept of "the wrong way" is a high level one right up there with "is it scary". The point of this project (as you pretty much described) is to harness the roaches intelligence so a computer program doesn't have to tackle such difficult concepts. I'd imagine the lights are just a quick way to send information to the roach, allowing it to run around in a virtual environment, or connect it to some remotely operated robot.

    3. Re:Uh... by cosmol · · Score: 1

      piloted, perhaps, by kittens. reminds me of the Rat Things in Snow Crash.

    4. Re:Uh... by MrResistor · · Score: 1

      piloted, perhaps, by kittens.

      I suppose that would make fapping in a time of war an act of treason...

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    5. Re:Uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ...lights are just a quick way to send information to the roach
      agreed. the purpose of the project (I wasn't involved in it though) is not to make smart machine (AI) but to use simple primitives ("find food","hide","run from light") built into cockroach to build desired behaviour. The simplest way to do it is to build a feedback loop, that connects those primitives into a desired function. It's mathematically similar to the way ants find the shortest path between the nest and the source of food (incidently, that was part of my thesis)
    6. Re:Uh... by blippy · · Score: 1

      > piloted, perhaps, by kittens

      In the series of the film Terminator, they had to reinvent history in order to account for the fact that human civilisation wasn't actually destroyed in 1997.

      I just have this vision of homocidal Terminator deathmachines being controlled by hamsters sucking on tubes.

    7. Re:Uh... by ghjm · · Score: 1

      I was thinking of relatively simple constraints, like "do not enter the headquarters building" or "you aren't allowed to shoot a manager at OCP".

      -Graham

    8. Re:Uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This reminds me of the famous Herring Sandwich experiments conducted millennia ago at MISPWOSO (The MaxiMegalon Institute of Slowly and Painfully Working Out the Surprisingly Obvious).

      http://balloffish.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_balloffi sh_archive.html (March 29 entry)

    9. Re:Uh... by Waruwaru · · Score: 1

      I am sure it is really simple to transform radar signals to cause the left/right/forward/backward leds to lit up, and maybe a proximidy sensor/remote signal to detinate/launch.

  4. New proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This research also proved that the roach controlled robot drove better than 86 percent of Southern Californian motorists. Maybe we should all have roaches as chauffeurs.

    1. Re:New proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Head of the light?"
      "No! Headlights! Aaah!"
      [Crash]

      While roaches instinctively avoid light.

    2. Re:New proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Teach a roach to spell and I'll be impressed. Teach me to do it and I'll be intelligible. =/

      "Of" should have been "for".

    3. Re:New proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long can you shine a light in a roaches face before it goes blind? Maybe they hide from light for a reason? I want to see you put 4 super bright LEDs to your eyes for a few minutes, then tell me how well you can see.

    4. Re:New proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, 86% of all statistics is made up on the spot.

    5. Re:New proof by blippy · · Score: 1

      Forget outsourcing to India ... cockroaches are where it's at.

      Sure, the quality of tech support will go down, but think of the cost savings!

    6. Re:New proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that roaches avoid light like the plague, cars driven by roach chauffeurs would tend to huddle up in highway overpasses

      Kinda funny, imo :)

  5. hmm... by bnitsua · · Score: 4, Funny

    how kafkaesque.

    1. Re:hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never went to college, you insensitive clod!

  6. The soldier of the future? by Datamonstar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Make the structure out of Titanium and give it some nukes... Indestructable weapon of the future!

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    1. Re:The soldier of the future? by ckemp.org · · Score: 2, Interesting
      From the site:
      Are there other similar scientific projects funded by the military?
      Yes. A large majority of hybrid insect/robot systems are funded by DARPA - the American Department of Defence's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). In a survey of published cockroach/robot research within America, I was unable to find a lab that was not funded in some way by DARPA.

      Hmm indeed.
  7. Let's put them to work! by DanCentury · · Score: 5, Funny

    They're already in the kitchen -- let's hook them up to the blender and Cuisinart.

  8. Eventually..... by Misanthrope · · Score: 5, Funny

    Eventually they'll have to switch to lawyers, there are some things even roaches won't do.

  9. Yikes by sabernet · · Score: 3, Funny

    Frankly, I don't care if this wields scientific data. It's just the most evil villain-esque thing I can think of. ...cool!!!:)

    1. Re:Yikes by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's only one step down from sharks with friggin' lasers!

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  10. AKA by Ann+Elk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Matrix, version 0.1 proof-of-concept

  11. Next... by Bazman · · Score: 2, Funny

    His next project is sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads....

    1. Re:Next... by ndogg · · Score: 1

      No, no, no, it'll be mice with frickin' lasers on their headers.

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      #include "frickin_lasers.h"
  12. Anyone remember Fifth Element? by Mindragon · · Score: 1

    I can't wait to hear the crunching sound...

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  13. On being a roach by macmurph · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I suddenly found myself in madagascar with a huge piece of velcro on my back, headlights blinking into my eyes, a ball beneath my feet... I would try and run like hell too.

    1. Re:On being a roach by rbarreira · · Score: 3, Informative

      The cockroach doesn't feel the velcro since they don't have nerve endings on their cuticles, according to the site. The ball probably doesn't feel very unnatural, I guess...

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    2. Re:On being a roach by dangitman · · Score: 1
      with a huge piece of velcro on my back, headlights blinking into my eyes, a ball beneath my feet... I would try and run like hell

      Yeah, I'd be hissed-off too.

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    3. Re:On being a roach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Your sig cracks me up:

      "Vader:You're either with me, or my enemy/Bush:You're either with or against us/Obi-Wan:Only the Sith deal in absolutes"

      You must rock in debate club... "But Vader said something like Bush so he must be wrong!" "We have a winner!" You know SW3ROTS is a movie, right... it's not real... any of this getting through?

    4. Re:On being a roach by rbarreira · · Score: 1

      If my sig cracked you up, why are you still a living idiot?

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  14. Cockroachs driving robots? by AnObfuscator · · Score: 1

    I'm SURE I saw a B-rated horror flick about this.

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  15. "Affirmation or rejection of posthuman theory" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    From the webpage:

    This animal-controlled system is also meant to be framed within the context of embodiment, intelligence, hybridity and posthumanism. While posthumanism tends to view humanity's self-reflective reference point as significantly shifted as a result of technology, this project can be viewed as affirmation or rejection of posthuman theory; either human and computational logic can be replaced with the rugged, viseral, and adaptive logic of the cockroach, or the cockroach can be viewed as the ultimate "posthuman": proof that technology has forced a re-calculation of humanity to itself, rendering the Kafkan cockroach body as a better model of intelligence than standard human embodiment within contemporary culture.

    Ooh! Now that's an impressive buzzword-to-content ratio!

  16. As a memeber of .... by Chineseyes · · Score: 2, Funny

    People for the ethical treatment of insects I am outraged and appaled at the blatant torture of these living creatures. Who else will stand up for the rights of the roach!!! The measure of society should be how we treat our insects roaches make wonderful pets and should not be treated in such a manner.

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  17. From TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    A couple of cockroaches have died after being fed Carl's Jr. - although this may have been a coincidence

    Discoveries in science always amaze me.

  18. Bad idea,,, by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    How long will it be before cockroaches figure out how to create a human controlled robot? Of course, we are really screwed if the cockroaches are the steel-plated, steel-eating ones from Damnation Alley.

    1. Re:Bad idea,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Mod me down if you like, but I CANNOT find that movie. Please hit me up if you know where to get it... yahoocom>

    2. Re:Bad idea,,, by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I CANNOT find that movie.

      It's out of print in VHS and it doesn't appear to be available on DVD yet. There's the book, which I didn't know about until now and will be getting a copy. Eventually, the movie will come out on DVD -- or remade -- like everything else.

      Another movie that came out the same time, Love At First Bite, will be out on DVD in July. I been waiting years for this movie. Who can forget Dracula -- a tanned white European -- rising from his casket at a funeral inside a black church. :)

  19. It looks like the Bill Gates icon for MS on /. by Imposter_of_myself · · Score: 0

    Although the cockroache looks cooler :-)

  20. It's not April 1st any more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can stop posting April fools' jokes. Thank you!

  21. Oh no! by t0ny747 · · Score: 0

    I hope they don't have weapons on the robots. We will all be doomed...

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  22. PETA by $exyNerdie · · Score: 3, Funny


    I am calling PETA for this 'incockroachane' treatment of the cockroach.

    1. Re:PETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Peta wouldn't care - it's not cute and cuddly enough for them.

    2. Re:PETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. PETA founder Ingrid Newkirk, one of the most extreme anti-humanists on the planet, fully endorses sentiments such as that expressed by the HSUS (http://www.animalrights.net/quotes.html):

      "The life of an ant and that of my child should be granted equal consideration."
      -Michael W. Fox, Vice President, The Human Society of the United States, The Inhumane Society, New York, 1990.

      "I wish we all would get up and go into the labs and take the animals out or burn them down."
      -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, National Animal Rights Convention '97, June 27, 1997

      Believe me, firebombing the researcher labs and liberating the roaches is quite within their remit.

    3. Re:PETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am calling PETA for this 'incockroachane' treatment of the cockroach.

      I saw their response; they didn't care. Hypocrites.

      (I made this up, OK?)

    4. Re:PETA by p3d0 · · Score: 1
      The life of an ant and that of my child should be granted equal consideration.
      This guy is full of shit. If someone gunned down his child and said "well, he was about to step on an ant hill", what do you think Mr. Fox's response would be?
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  23. One-Liners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    PETA leaders spontaneously combust debating whether this isn't ethical treatment of roaches or if this empowers roaches to actualize their inner selves.

    Microsoft execs are kicking themselves for not having implemented hardware bugs quite like this one...and promises to innovate accordingly.

    Roaches are fastened to the machine using a patented spring-based tweezer-like system called a roach clip.

    Military recruitment at an all-time high when kids are told that in basic training, they can smoke a roach.

    1. Re:One-Liners by btarval · · Score: 1

      And those darn roaches are going to have their flying cars before I have mine!

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  24. Deus Ex by mattjb0010 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Gromphadorhina portentosa, deus ex machina.

    1. Re:Deus Ex by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      I don't get the first two words. Is it: "Cockroach god from the machine"?

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    2. Re:Deus Ex by mattjb0010 · · Score: 1

      I don't get the first two words.

      They're in one of the articles. Roaches are cool. I want to pin some (Australian) native ones into my collection one of these days. :)

  25. had a similar idea many years ago by DaFrogg · · Score: 5, Funny

    I had an idea for roaches as controllers years ago, but everyone said I was nuts. If I had just ignored my stoner friends, I could have been a pioneer! OK, so I wanted them guiding little rockets, but still...

    1. Re:had a similar idea many years ago by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 2, Funny

      "OK, so I wanted them guiding little rockets, but still..."

      I tried something similar in the early 80's with snails (because they're easier to catch than cockroaches). However, tests quickly proved that snails don't have fast enough reaction times to effectively steer a D-6-0 powered rocket, although on the plus side the 'chute ejection charge would shoot the "pilot" an extra 50 meters or so.

      You live, you learn, you find something else to blow up in the name of science...

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  26. At least we can stop them. by The_Minkis · · Score: 3, Funny

    When the robots revolt all we have to do is turn on a light and watch them run for cover.

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  27. Pauline beat him to it by Checkered+Daemon · · Score: 1

    Mark Pauline and Survival Research Laboratories did this with a hamster YEARS ago. And it was a BIG fricking robot!

    1. Re:Pauline beat him to it by Chaostrophy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It was a Guinea Pig, and it controled the movements of the machines limbs directly with its limbs. It was intened to reverse the psycological power relationship between people and small rodents, and the rodent seemed to enjoy it. Never shown publicly because animal rights sorts got in a tizzy about it.

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    2. Re:Pauline beat him to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFA - he mentioned that and a couple of others.

  28. I'm guessing PETA hasn't seen these photos by MonkeyOfRage · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great. After nuclear armageddon, the roaches will be free to tool around on the little Segways we made for them. The legacy of man.

    1. Re:I'm guessing PETA hasn't seen these photos by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

      We can't even become extinct without starting another religion? ;-)

      I for one would love to be around to hear their verbal legends...

      SB

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    2. Re:I'm guessing PETA hasn't seen these photos by catdevnull · · Score: 1

      It will be like that strange SNL skit "Bear City"--Roach City.

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  29. Why control the cockroach? by JThundley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So let me get this straight; humans are controlling a cockroach that is controlling a robot? If they're going to tell the cockroach to turn left, why not just do it directly? It seems the cooler thing to do would be to let the cockroach bump around on his own will.

    1. Re:Why control the cockroach? by flyingsquid · · Score: 2, Funny
      So let me get this straight; humans are controlling a cockroach that is controlling a robot? If they're going to tell the cockroach to turn left, why not just do it directly?

      Don't you see? The LEDs telling the roach which way to go are controlled by another cockroach.

    2. Re:Why control the cockroach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      And who controls THAT cockroach?

      You guessed it...

      The Zionist Jews!

    3. Re:Why control the cockroach? by teknomage1 · · Score: 1

      Well if the robot's proximity sensors direct the light, you basically have a cockroach signal processor, which may or may not have quicker refelexes than some sort of threshold matching algorithm.

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    4. Re:Why control the cockroach? by wed128 · · Score: 1

      i suggest you watch the movie PI.

    5. Re:Why control the cockroach? by tyler_larson · · Score: 1
      So let me get this straight; humans are controlling a cockroach that is controlling a robot?

      Hmm. Perhaps you missed something. There is no human input anywhere in the system. The lights are wired directly to proximity sensors, so the light will come on if the roach drives close to a wall or something. That tends to keep it out in the open where it can roam around on its own will.

      It's a lot more like a insect driving a car than controlling a robot.

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    6. Re:Why control the cockroach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How are they going to "just do it directly"? You mean by using a CPU with intelligence software? Normally a robot like this would consist of laser sensors hooked up to such a CPU. The laser sensors provide the input but it is up to the CPU to make sense of all the data and react accordingly. The problem though is that today's AI software is not even up to the intelligence level of cockroaches. The idea then is use the roach as a CPU replacement thus utilizing the intelligence "software" already written by nature. The main problem is figuring out how best to read in data and "connect" this input stream to the cockroach. It would make no sense to have the cockroach "bump around" on his own. It's not like he actually realizes the relationship between his running on the ping pong ball and the movement of the robot. There needs to be some sort of pain/pleasure incentive that is delivered to him to help him navigate correctly.

    7. Re:Why control the cockroach? by honestmonkey · · Score: 1

      Sorry, it's cockroaches all the way down...

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  30. Re:Disgusting by saskboy · · Score: 1

    PETA's next project?

    Somehow I don't think the Insect Rights movement is as strong in the world as it is for Cute Fuzzy Animal Babies.

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  31. How I always knew cockroaches could run machines by joneshenry · · Score: 1

    I learned how cockroaches were naturals for running machines from the movie Godzilla vs Gigan.

  32. It's already been done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    A roach-controlled robotic cyborg has already been created by one couple, George H.W. Bush and spouse, Barbara.

    1. Re:It's already been done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A roach-controlled robotic cyborg has already been created by one couple, George H.W. Bush and spouse, Barbara.

      Oh my god you're funny and creative.

      Please play in traffic, douchebag.

  33. In Soviet Russia... by HoaryCripple · · Score: 1, Funny

    Cockroach smashes you!

  34. Rather interesting skill by schnipsel · · Score: 1

    frome the same page, CV (bottom of page, Technical Skills) "...Knowledge of networking, including Unix system administration, routers, DNS servers, mail servers, FTP servers, Linux. Insect schizoanalysis...."

    1. Re:Rather interesting skill by schnipsel · · Score: 1

      also check out the frog/fly with embedded webserver etc., all on the same site

  35. How do you... by catdevnull · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...debug that one?

    I welcome our new insect overlords.

    Hey! Don't mod me down. I mean, how can my comment be any worse than an article about roach-operated robotics? :)

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    1. Re:How do you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey! Don't mod me down. I mean, how can my comment be any worse than an article about roach-operated robotics? :)

      How about because you've just parroted back the joke from the fucking article summary?
      Moron.

    2. Re:How do you... by catdevnull · · Score: 1

      I was doing something rather unusual on slashdot: reading the article instead of trolling for people to pick on to make my sad life feel better.

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    3. Re:How do you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was doing something rather unusual on slashdot: reading the article instead of trolling for people to pick on to make my sad life feel better.

      So what if you did read the article? I did too. All you have to show for it though is a tired old cliché which adds nothing of value to the discussion.

      I'm not saying this to pick on you or to make my 'sad life' better, this is because I'm sick of all the crap that gets modded-up here over the genuinely insightful/informative/interesting comments that a handful of Slashdotters make.

    4. Re:How do you... by catdevnull · · Score: 1

      If you look at my comment history, I usually get modded up for constructive or humorous posts. I'm also known for an incidental "moron" comment that tanks--usually, those are quite self-evident and do not need additional commentary as they die on the vine. But thanks for pointing out the obvious.

      It seems a bit counter-intuitive if not counter-productive for you to cite your distaste for "crap" posts with an off-topic flame. While I am in agreement with your argument, I would suggest that you rethink your strategy for proselytizing your "no crap on slashdot" mantra.

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  36. From TFA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Does the cockroach have a brain? No. Cockroaches only have clumps of nerve cells called ganglia, which are positioned around their body. Cockroaches can survive for a number of days without their heads: they eventually starve to death.

    Ah, that would explain how my last dotcom still survives even after the CEO was fired.

  37. Perhaps more interesting? by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Interesting

    These folks have constructed a fly flight simulator, where they tether a fly in front of a set of lights that form a low-resolution view of a simulated environment. They then measure the torques produced by the fly and use that data to manipulate the environment simulation, so that the fly sees its environment moving about it even though it's tethered in place. They can use this to study the behavioral responses of flies to various stimuli (like a rapidly-approaching light or dark spot simulating a fly-swatter, to examine escape response).

    I guess I would be more impressed if instead of having the cockroach walk on a trackball, they used cockroach EMG to control the robot.

  38. Geeks' Love Lives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Roboticist Garnet Hertz has mounted a Giant Madagascan Hissing Cockroach...

    Geez, and I thought I was desperate!

  39. Send them to Iraq by myowntrueself · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    They will do a better 'hearts and minds' job than the grunts they have now!

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  40. Naked Lunch! by LinuxHam · · Score: 1

    I was hoping they'd sign their status reports as coming from Interzone :)

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  41. Yawn. by ta+ma+de · · Score: 1

    I will be impressed when he announces that he has invented the five assed monkey.

  42. correct word is Malagasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Madagascan is old-fashioned, I thought I should say that since there arent a lot of malagasy slashdot readers

  43. Cruelty to animals by BobPaul · · Score: 2, Informative

    Isn't it cruel to use a cockroach like this?

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  44. Awesome by lux55 · · Score: 1

    They say cockroaches are one of the only things that survive a nuclear catastrophe. Equipping them with robots would be awesome to see after they're the only things left running around. It would be a giant game of bumper-robots on a big pile of debris. Awesome.

    Too bad we'd be dead, so we wouldn't actually get to see it...

  45. This is plain un-Amurrican by Urusai · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should be using good old American cockroaches instead of them hissy Madagasgadooian roaches. Must outsourcing take away all our jobs?

  46. Obligatory Simpsons Quote by Majikk · · Score: 0

    "And I for one, welcome our new insect overlords."

  47. Nothing new here by xs650 · · Score: 2, Funny

    They've been driving taxi cabs for decades.

  48. when engineers go stupid... by vistic · · Score: 0, Troll

    what the hell is the point of this, anyway? I see no usefulness in it, just some losers playing with bugs.

    You steer the cockroach by shining light in its eyes, which makes the cockroach move one way or another on the pingpong ball... so... why is the cockroach there at all? And not just control the robot directly. This just adds an extra step in the process which makes the system less reliable.

    This is stupid tech.

    1. Re:when engineers go stupid... by Alotau · · Score: 1

      Each light is coupled with a sensor that detects obstacles. The guy isn't steering the roach (or robot) anywhere--the roach is avoiding things based on these lights.

    2. Re:when engineers go stupid... by vistic · · Score: 1

      Ok so... what's the point in having a cockroach control a robot if the cockroach is not being steered? In this case you could achieve the same effect by making the robot drive around aimlessly, and use those same sensors to detect obstacles to directly alter the course of the robot if the point is to avoid them.

    3. Re:when engineers go stupid... by Alotau · · Score: 1
      what's the point in having a cockroach control a robot...
      Would we be talking about this guy otherwise?
    4. Re:when engineers go stupid... by vistic · · Score: 1

      Hardly a noble reason...

    5. Re:when engineers go stupid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1.enroll into the DARPA desert challenge?
      2.put the roach into a car, program the onboard computer to shine the light whenever the roach nears an obstacle or goes backward.
      3.profit!!!

    6. Re:when engineers go stupid... by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Please see this.

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    7. Re:when engineers go stupid... by denidoom · · Score: 1

      I found his rationale compelling
      Rationale and Goals of this project (a little over half way down the page)

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    8. Re:when engineers go stupid... by vistic · · Score: 1

      Wow... nineteen bullet-points and not one of them mentions any practical usefulness for this... most of them just boil down to "it's novel" or "cockroaches are cool". Not once does he mention any valid point to this experiment. What a waste.

    9. Re:when engineers go stupid... by denidoom · · Score: 1

      In my opinion, sometimes doing something that isn't practical or "valid" leads to creativity and discovery.

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  49. How to debug it: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A couple of cockroaches have died after being fed Carl's Jr.

  50. Posthumanism? by d5w · · Score: 1
    Ok, can we get a vote on whether this paragraph from the article is intended to be taken seriously or not?
    This animal-controlled system is also meant to be framed within the context of embodiment, intelligence, hybridity and posthumanism. While posthumanism tends to view humanity's self-reflective reference point as significantly shifted as a result of technology, this project can be viewed as affirmation or rejection of posthuman theory; either human and computational logic can be replaced with the rugged, viseral, and adaptive logic of the cockroach, or the cockroach can be viewed as the ultimate "posthuman": proof that technology has forced a re-calculation of humanity to itself, rendering the Kafkan cockroach body as a better model of intelligence than standard human embodiment within contemporary culture.
    1. Re:Posthumanism? by gazuga · · Score: 1
      Yeah, and in the Why are you doing this project section :

      • I became tired of hearing the term "posthuman" within a critical theory / philosophical context. As a reaction, I thought that a cockroach makes a better posthuman than Fukyamama, Stock or Hayles envisions: in a literal sense, it's a robust system that will likely outlast nuclear war, computers, and the human species.


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  51. (Team) America Fuck Yeah!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't do it. They'll become tyranical dictators of the communist north!!!!!

  52. What really cracks me up about this article... by jolande · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was going to make a "I, for one, welcome our new Cockroach overlords" joke as is obligatory in every /. thread. I go to -1 to do a search if somebody had done the joke.

    There were 7 posts saying the exact same joke. 7 idential jokes, guys! Seriously, this is not cool. Do a search at -1 before you make the joke. Redundancy is not cool.

    1. Re:What really cracks me up about this article... by LordSnooty · · Score: 1

      I, for one, wolcome pointless science like this story.

    2. Re:What really cracks me up about this article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, welcome more of these jokes.

    3. Re:What really cracks me up about this article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was going to make a "I, for one, welcome our new Cockroach overlords" joke as is obligatory in every /. thread. I go to -1 to do a search if somebody had done the joke.

      There were 7 posts saying the exact same joke. 7 idential jokes, guys! Seriously, this is not cool. Do a search at -1 before you make the joke. Redundancy is not cool.

  53. Robot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a cockroach controlled 'robot' in the same way that a car is a human controlled 'robot'.

  54. weird by rotagivan · · Score: 1

    I was just thinking about this today. I remembered a while back someone had done this before. It popped in my mind today and I was wondering if any progress was made on it. I get home and see this. scary

  55. Reality by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    You know SW3ROTS is a movie, right... it's not real...

    What makes you think slashdot is real? Or a sig on slashdot? Or Bush?

  56. Take "Fear Factor" to a new level by nanojath · · Score: 1

    I think this could revolutionize fear factor... combine the hissing cockroach challenges with the driving stunts... I can just hear Joe Rogan, "the hissing cockroach will then drive directly into your mouth!"

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  57. Don't just quote - customise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our mecha-wielding giant cockroach overlords.

  58. So... by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

    Nobody's welcoming our new cockroach overlords?

    1. Re:So... by idonthack · · Score: 1
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  59. I for one... by MaineCoon · · Score: 1

    welcome our giant cockroach-controlled robot overlords.

    Sorry, this one just had to be said...

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  60. No by Tharkban · · Score: 1

    I Vote no. Not to be taken seriously.

    I started smiling by the second sentence.

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  61. The RAID debugger by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 1

    Whan I was in college in the 1970s, the debugger for a Varian computer was called "RAID" (for "Rapid Aid In Debugging").
    So the joke actually works on three levels for old fogeys (is the word "fogey" even used any more? only by old fogeys, I guess) such as myself.
    OTOH, to be honest, the authors of the Varian debugger probably had Raid (the bug spray) in mind when they named their debugger.
    (OTOOH, the predecessor to RAID (for the Varian) was called "AID", so who knows?)

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  62. Well, crap. by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 1

    Also in the 1970s, "when" was spelled "whan".
    (But I did use the "Preview" button, dammit!)

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  63. They should have called the robot DROD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "deadly robot of death".

    -> http://www.drod.net/

  64. Re: Redundancy is not cool. by linoleo · · Score: 1

    And neither is redundancy.

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  65. -1: RTFA by p3d0 · · Score: 1

    If there were such a moderation, I would have just used it.

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  66. Re:Uh... old ideas working towards implementation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    piloted, perhaps, by kittens...

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  67. I wait... by MaDeR · · Score: 1

    ...until they develop method to connect neurons of cockroach to robot. This will be NEWS, not a stupid trackball. Interesting application: spider brain in spider-like robot to guard and kill. Hoever, this may be inpractical (feeding live brain versus computer processor).

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  68. perfect test for natural selection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    put a high quality screen in front of it, give it an aimbot, and immerse the sucker in an online FPS!

    let the games begin!