"children" under 18 don't have the same judgment as adults (18 is an arbitrary age, but has some precedence). It is justified to protect "children" from themselves, by making it illegal for them to smoke. Adults, on the other hand, are allowed more freedom. In effect they are assumed to know better than to engage in self destructive actions (because they can judge what those things are better than anyone else). As a society we have chosen not to protect adults from themselves to the same extent.
This is a varient of the "don't have the same judgment" argument...so I'll address your counterpoint.
I still say that doesn't matter, because you're talking about comparing a person under 18 who smokes, with a person over 18 who smokes, and their judgment in both cases is the same The fact that both the "child" and adult smoke has no bearing on their judgment, and whether society trusts it. The "child" is assumed to not know better than to smoke. In the case of the adult, the person is assumed to know the risks involved and be able to choose what is best for themself.
As far as using "Mechanical Turk", that's a very interesting use for the service.
A universal Turing machine can simulate any Turing machine on any input. The trouble in simulating itself, is that you need to encode the input of the simulated machine. So to simulate itself running, you need an encoding of itself to take as input. This is problematic.
I don't think it'll ever be the sole option on new machines.
As we speak Dell offers XP, Ubuntu, and FreeDOS in addition to Vista. I don't see that stopping. Hopefully by the time XP doesn't sell anymore, GNU/linux will be a standard option.:)
First, there is MythTV which does what a TiVo does, I think (I haven't used either). Second, we don't need TiVo, the free software community is doing them a favor by letting them have the software, not the other way around. I'm happy if they use free software, it grows the community, assuming they want to be a part of it. However, they have shown that they do not want to be part of the community, they want to lock the community out of their own work. Sorry, but I just can't agree with that. If TiVo continues acting the way it has then I say "Give me back my code, you don't get to play with it." I completely agree with the GPLv3 on this one.
search for "500 State Street Brooklyn NY" and move west along state street. The camera gets stuck in traffic and the address keeps moving along. Additionally, 500 State Street isn't what it's supposed to be http://www.mro.org/firelotus/firelotus/index.shtml. It's cool and all that they did this, but I'm not impressed with it's usefulness.
When I looked at the same configuration for the laptop 1505N vs 1505 the price difference was about $100 but was explained more by the lack of the ATI graphics card in the linux model. The hardware differences are that the linux model does not include the ATI graphics card and includes the more expensive Intel wireless card.
The hardware differences for the laptops are that the windows laptop includes an ATI graphics card and a less expensive wireless card. The ATI card, I think, accounts for the $100 difference, more than the fact that it ships with windows.
I just compared the two systems directly on dell.com
> one should compare the cost of the new Dell Ubuntu models with the cost of their equivalent Windows versions with the dell "clean PC" option...which adds additional expense to the Windows PC.
They don't actually have such an option do they? I couldn't find it.
Modules. Pretty much all drivers are modules and not compiled directly into the kernel. They don't increase the kernel size unless you load them. Although they do increase the kernel source size (in their own files generally) so it is taking a little longer to compile all kernel modules, but that's a price I'm willing to pay for things just working.
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My guess is it's part of the "it is based upon just a portion of our searches"
You missed a point in that story. NASA is extremely careful with its software. They don't fly from Dec 31 to Jan 1 because they know exactly what would happen.
That comment was in the article. It was simply included in the summary, not added by/.
> But until this [sic] the record of the lamest XP PC goes from Berlin (Germany) to Vienna (Austria). > {Image} The golden Sandclock Award > {Image} For extreme waste of time.
So of course you won't find software for linux on amazon. You'll find it on sourceforge or using apt-get. Even looking in the CNR warehouse, most of the programs are free (most of them are the standard open source projects).
"attack vector", I like that. It makes it sound dangerous, instead of just meaning you played a movie on your computer.
btw, I wouldn't be able to watch any movies anymore if I couldn't play them on my computer (no TV, no media devices). I don't think that this situation is that uncommon anymore. Disallowing software players would be a business suicide strategy (much worse than having the DRM broken).
In fact, even a trusted computing module (or whatever they call the chip that doesn't let you do stuff) wouldn't help matters, since someone would mod their motherboard and patch the software so that it plays. And then you have the same situation; you can go dig through memory for the key. Anyone determined enough to go digging through memory, would also be willing to circumvent the hardware protections. Hopefully, however, customers rebel way before that happens.
Yeah, I got that. But it makes the chips inherently less reliable, and hardware vendors know that. Things that might not previously cause damage, can now accidently trigger the autodestruct and make the chip useless.
What would you make autodestruct anyway? The way around hardware DRM is through mod chips usually. So if your intent is to place a chip on the motherboard, it's not much of an issue if the chip you want to replace autodestructs.
The exploit code does not work on my own computer (Ubuntu edgy, firefox 2.0.0.1)
I just checked whether I could get the provided code to run at all, file:/// or http:/// popup or not, nothing worked XMLHttpRequest.open() is not allowed in any scenario (including directed at external sites). That being said, I did manage to get the popup to display a file:/// url, so maybe there is some vulnerability there. But for my setup the exploit code doesn't do anything.
My Mom knows I work on computers all day, and that I use linux, and that I program them. Then one day I was just browsing the web and she looked over and said "wait, that's linux?" I think she finally realized it really wasn't that complicated. Just showing people linux working correctly does wonders. Unfortunately, it takes some time. For example my Mom had already watched me build a computer and install linux on it for my little brother. On second thought, maybe that's why she thought it was complicated...stupid CPU power not being plugged in on the mother board.
It will prevent a user level vulnerability in apache from erasing your home directory (without privilage escalation). It's not perfect, but it beats running all services as root.
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"children" under 18 don't have the same judgment as adults (18 is an arbitrary age, but has some precedence).
It is justified to protect "children" from themselves, by making it illegal for them to smoke.
Adults, on the other hand, are allowed more freedom. In effect they are assumed to know better than to engage in self destructive actions (because they can judge what those things are better than anyone else).
As a society we have chosen not to protect adults from themselves to the same extent.
This is a varient of the "don't have the same judgment" argument...so I'll address your counterpoint. I still say that doesn't matter, because you're talking about comparing a person under 18 who smokes, with a person over 18 who smokes, and their judgment in both cases is the same The fact that both the "child" and adult smoke has no bearing on their judgment, and whether society trusts it.
The "child" is assumed to not know better than to smoke.
In the case of the adult, the person is assumed to know the risks involved and be able to choose what is best for themself.
As far as using "Mechanical Turk", that's a very interesting use for the service.
A universal Turing machine can simulate any Turing machine on any input.
The trouble in simulating itself, is that you need to encode the input of the simulated machine.
So to simulate itself running, you need an encoding of itself to take as input.
This is problematic.
Actually, that's the point. Linus didn't create GNU/linux he created linux (the kernel).
Not to mention, the posts which tell the moderators how they should moderate.
and Eve sends you a video of herself? Hmmm...maybe not so bad.
I don't think it'll ever be the sole option on new machines.
:)
As we speak Dell offers XP, Ubuntu, and FreeDOS in addition to Vista. I don't see that stopping. Hopefully by the time XP doesn't sell anymore, GNU/linux will be a standard option.
First, there is MythTV which does what a TiVo does, I think (I haven't used either). Second, we don't need TiVo, the free software community is doing them a favor by letting them have the software, not the other way around. I'm happy if they use free software, it grows the community, assuming they want to be a part of it. However, they have shown that they do not want to be part of the community, they want to lock the community out of their own work. Sorry, but I just can't agree with that. If TiVo continues acting the way it has then I say "Give me back my code, you don't get to play with it." I completely agree with the GPLv3 on this one.
Yet again someone has realized that if everyone used linux, then no one would want to switch to windows.
Sorry, I meant to say move East not West.
search for "500 State Street Brooklyn NY" and move west along state street. The camera gets stuck in traffic and the address keeps moving along. Additionally, 500 State Street isn't what it's supposed to be http://www.mro.org/firelotus/firelotus/index.shtml . It's cool and all that they did this, but I'm not impressed with it's usefulness.
When I looked at the same configuration for the laptop 1505N vs 1505 the price difference was about $100 but was explained more by the lack of the ATI graphics card in the linux model. The hardware differences are that the linux model does not include the ATI graphics card and includes the more expensive Intel wireless card.
The hardware differences for the laptops are that the windows laptop includes an ATI graphics card and a less expensive wireless card. The ATI card, I think, accounts for the $100 difference, more than the fact that it ships with windows.
I just compared the two systems directly on dell.com
> one should compare the cost of the new Dell Ubuntu models with the cost of their equivalent Windows versions with the dell "clean PC" option...which adds additional expense to the Windows PC.
They don't actually have such an option do they?
I couldn't find it.
Yeah, I played that until I realized I could be cleaning my room instead.
Modules. Pretty much all drivers are modules and not compiled directly into the kernel. They don't increase the kernel size unless you load them. Although they do increase the kernel source size (in their own files generally) so it is taking a little longer to compile all kernel modules, but that's a price I'm willing to pay for things just working.
From the bottom of the page.
Google Trends aims to provide insights into broad search patterns. As a Google Labs product, it is still in the early stages of development. Also, it is based upon just a portion of our searches, and several approximations are used when computing your results. Please keep this in mind when using it.
My guess is it's part of the "it is based upon just a portion of our searches"
You missed a point in that story.
NASA is extremely careful with its software.
They don't fly from Dec 31 to Jan 1 because they know exactly what would happen.
That comment was in the article. It was simply included in the summary, not added by /.
> But until this [sic] the record of the lamest XP PC goes from Berlin (Germany) to Vienna (Austria).
> {Image} The golden Sandclock Award
> {Image} For extreme waste of time.
In general you don't buy software for linux.
So of course you won't find software for linux on amazon. You'll find it on sourceforge or using apt-get. Even looking in the CNR warehouse, most of the programs are free (most of them are the standard open source projects).
"attack vector", I like that. It makes it sound dangerous, instead of just meaning you played a movie on your computer.
btw, I wouldn't be able to watch any movies anymore if I couldn't play them on my computer (no TV, no media devices). I don't think that this situation is that uncommon anymore. Disallowing software players would be a business suicide strategy (much worse than having the DRM broken).
In fact, even a trusted computing module (or whatever they call the chip that doesn't let you do stuff) wouldn't help matters, since someone would mod their motherboard and patch the software so that it plays. And then you have the same situation; you can go dig through memory for the key. Anyone determined enough to go digging through memory, would also be willing to circumvent the hardware protections. Hopefully, however, customers rebel way before that happens.
Yeah, I got that.
But it makes the chips inherently less reliable, and hardware vendors know that. Things that might not previously cause damage, can now accidently trigger the autodestruct and make the chip useless.
What would you make autodestruct anyway? The way around hardware DRM is through mod chips usually. So if your intent is to place a chip on the motherboard, it's not much of an issue if the chip you want to replace autodestructs.
and won't be bought by me.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say enough people will object to autodestructing chips that hardware manufacturers will not produce them.
The exploit code does not work on my own computer (Ubuntu edgy, firefox 2.0.0.1)
I just checked whether I could get the provided code to run at all, file:/// or http:/// popup or not, nothing worked XMLHttpRequest.open() is not allowed in any scenario (including directed at external sites). That being said, I did manage to get the popup to display a file:/// url, so maybe there is some vulnerability there. But for my setup the exploit code doesn't do anything.
I agree.
My Mom knows I work on computers all day, and that I use linux, and that I program them.
Then one day I was just browsing the web and she looked over and said "wait, that's linux?"
I think she finally realized it really wasn't that complicated. Just showing people linux working correctly does wonders.
Unfortunately, it takes some time. For example my Mom had already watched me build a computer and install linux on it for my little brother.
On second thought, maybe that's why she thought it was complicated...stupid CPU power not being plugged in on the mother board.
It will prevent a user level vulnerability in apache from erasing your home directory (without privilage escalation).
It's not perfect, but it beats running all services as root.