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AdvantageSix Promises a Tiny ARM-based Computer

oberondarksoul writes "Drobe, one of the leading RISC OS news websites, is reporting that AdvantageSix have displayed an in-development version of their forthcoming A9home system. Running on a 400MHz Samsung ARM9 processor, and measuring approximately 6.6x4x2 inches, this ought to be a cheap -- and reasonably powerful -- RISC OS-based alternative to small form factor PCs or the Mac mini."

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  1. Re:Garrhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    1 inch = 2.54cm, so it's approx. 16.8x10.2x5.1cm in size.

  2. Not really a competition for the mini by FidelCatsro · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looking at the specs sheet and the expected price It really is not any competition for the Mac mini, so its expected to retail for around 499GBP+vat(17.5% on top of that) in the UK (if UKP means UK pound ?, ) which is already alot more than the price of the 1.42ghz g4 based mac mini , which comes with double the ram , double the harddrive .It will probably make a great ARM development machine but i don't think its trying to compete with SFF PCs and MacMinis.
    -Comparing it to a macmini is really doing it a great dis-service

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  3. Re:The whole world doesn't end by the USA border by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    168x103x53mm

  4. Re:where's the ethernet port? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    next to the keyboard mouse ports. there's a photo, I suggest looking at it. and specs listed too.

    RTFA and all

  5. some specs by wlodek_j · · Score: 2, Informative

    168x103x53mm in a blue metal box

    400MHz Samsung ARM9 processor
    Embedded graphics processor
    128M SDRAM
    8M VRAM
    10/100MBit network
    40GB hard disc
    4 x USB sockets
    Microphone in
    2 x PS/2
    RS232 serial
    5V power supply, 20W power

    1. Re:some specs by horza · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've seen some people trying to compare this to the Mac Mini. It's difficult to compare directly.

      400MHz Samsung ARM9 processor

      This will be blazingly fast as the OS is written in assembler, and is stored entirely in ROM so does not need to load from disc. My old 200MHz RiscPC used to be able to boot into windows from cold in well under half a second.

      128M SDRAM

      As the OS (and entire windowing system) is running from ROM you get more of that memory for your applications. The applications are far more tightly written. AFAICR the main DTP application, much like Framemaker, weighed in at around 400k.

      8M VRAM

      Any VRAM not used for graphics can be used as normal RAM.

      RS232 serial

      Nice touch as this is useful for anyone that wants to use it for Home Automation projects.

      5V power supply, 20W power

      Unlike the 85W 'brick' used by the Mac Mini.

      Overall this is a nice system but due to the lack of economies of scale expensive.

      Phillip.

  6. Re:That sounds like a lot of of money by oberondarksoul · · Score: 5, Informative

    It runs RISC OS natively, which - although not nearly as popular as in its hayday - is still used by a fair number of people. Certainly they're more expensive than the average Intel, but they do have several advantages.

    For instance, the entirety of the RISC OS is in ROM - this gives machines ludicrously good boot times, as well as making it virtually impossible to accidentally hose the system. It also has a familiar and easy to use GUI, using the middle-button for all menus - no menu bars cluttering up every window, and has features such as font anti-aliasing built in (since 1989).

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  7. Photos and videos of the A9home by monkeyson · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are loads of pictures and videos of the A9home - including comparisons to a 50 pence coin and a Mac Mini - on The Iconbar's show report:

    http://www.iconbar.com/news/wakefield2005/report/

  8. Re:Interesting by roxtar · · Score: 5, Informative
    As well, they will be a hit with developing countries. Cheapness without the ambiguity of a white-box.

    Another thing these are not at all cheap in developing countries. I'm from India. The A9Home costs 499 Pounds which translates to around 40,000 Indian Rs which is a lot for a desktop computer which doesn't have a monitor. We can get assembled PCs (with monitor, speakers etc) for around 25,000 Indian Rs

  9. Re:That sounds like a lot of of money by sa110 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The A9home most cetainly does come with a keyboard and mouse. I suggest you check the specs of it before posting missinformation.

  10. I do a lot of ARM development and... by WouldIPutMYRealNameO · · Score: 3, Informative
    This strikes me as weird.
    1) It's very pricy. ARM cpus are dirt cheap compared to power or x86 CPUs, the rest of the components are pretty standard. The build cost for this machine should be less that 100USD in reasonable sized runs.
    2) It draws A LOT of power. I don't think that any ARM machine I've worked with draws close to 20W @ 5V.

    On the whole though, I think this is a cool idea - when I worked on a 200Mhz Xscale ARM running Debian, it was perfectly fine for web surfing, etc. Perfect for Mom and Pop if they just wanted to surf & do email.

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  11. Re:Interesting by sud_crow · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think this is a common misconception about development countrys (aka 3rd world), barebones are around 300 U$S here, and they dont even include a processor or memory (not to name a monitor). Mac Mini is more than 650 U$S and we can get a PC with better specs and a 17 inch monitor for about 500 U$S. I dont understand why people think this would benefit 3rd world countries, its obvious that this kind of "gadgets" are for a very specific target and most of the people in this countries are not in that category.

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