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Google Map Hack & Chicago Crime Data

joepez writes "In recent weeks we've seen some great Google Maps hacks (HousingMaps, Google's own Ride Finder, etc.), but this weekend Adrian has brought us something truly innovative. He's merged Google map data with Chicago crime data to present a once a day updated crime map of the entire city, including some really nice summarized data. Adrian calls the project Chicagocrime.org. How long till we have real time crime data showing up on Google's map? Pull open HousingMaps next to Chicagocrime.org and figure out if that low rent apartment is truly worth it. Or is this all a clever trick on Google's part to build up more and more third parties dependent upon Google?" There's also a cheap gas hack as well.

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  1. Slashdotted by /ASCII · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not a single comment, and the site is already crawling. I guess some people actually read the articles!

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    1. Re:Slashdotted by holovaty · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'd been dreading the possibility that the site would get Slashdotted. Sorry 'bout the slowness, folks.

      Although almost every single page of the site is cached, it's still fundamentally performance-intensive because there's a ton of data and it's very "sticky" content that's addictive to browse. The bottleneck is now at the cache level. Unfortunately I can't do anything about it now, because I'm at work.

      Thanks for the attention.

  2. Prostitution by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you select 'prostitution' you can check out the best areas to go to pick up a hooker. Not that this is of any use to me as I'm a) not single and b) not in the US.

    1. Re:Prostitution by geoffspear · · Score: 5, Insightful

      or the best places to get arrested trying to pick up a hooker.

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    2. Re:Prostitution by lildogie · · Score: 5, Funny

      > I'm a) not single and b) not in the US.

      Right. Foreign, married men _never_ use prostitutes.

    3. Re:Prostitution by fm6 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, Johns tend to be non-local married men.

    4. Re:Prostitution by Thaelon · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't want to know how you know that.

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  3. Why not both by millahtime · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Pull open HousingMaps next to Chicagocrime.org and figure out if that low rent apartment is truly worth it. Or is this all a clever trick on Google's part to build up more and more third parties dependent upon Google?

    Why can't it be both. And if there is a way to keep it free the better for me.

  4. Sex Offender's Registry by killproc · · Score: 5, Interesting


    A better implementation for this would be to link to each individual State's sex offender's registry. This data is readily provided and is in the public domain.

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    1. Re:Sex Offender's Registry by Capt+James+McCarthy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Great. You want to punish someone forever from one mistake. Way to have a system of justice dude.

      Besides that, you probably don't want to know who really lives beside you.

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    2. Re:Sex Offender's Registry by Gr33nNight · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A friend of mine is labeled a sex offender because when he was 18, his girlfriend was 17 (3 months apart). His girlfriends mother called the policyeabout it and he got arrested. Now he is considered a sex offender.

      Not all sex offenders are child molesters and kiddie rapists.

    3. Re:Sex Offender's Registry by killproc · · Score: 3, Informative


      Having knowledge as to the whereabouts of known sexual predators in your area is not "punishing" THEM.
      Being the father of two small children, I definitely am interested in the number of sexual predators in my area.
      Having perused my state's Offender's registry, I was surprised by the number of repeat offenders that are still loose on the streets.
      Knowing the areas that had a high concentration of rapists definitely played a part in my house hunting decisions.

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    4. Re:Sex Offender's Registry by Snoop+Donkey+Donk · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Our local newspaper had a blurb about a guy who was having problems coaching his kid's soccer team because they did a background check and he came up as a sex offender - he had been arrested during his college days for mooning.

    5. Re:Sex Offender's Registry by rpresser · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem is that the sexual offender registry lists people who are NOT "known sexual predators". These people, who made a mistake -- for instance, a 19 year old whose 15-year-old girlfriend's dad is a raging lunatic -- are now forever branded as sexual predators, EVEN THOUGH THEY DID THEIR TIME ALREADY.

      Yes, there are child rapists on the list too. But can you tell them apart just from the list? Are you going to bother to try? I doubt it.

    6. Re:Sex Offender's Registry by zerbot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In our state, offenders are coded, and level 1 offenders like your 19 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend don't even show up. Some people think I am paranoid and overprotective about my children, I look at the map of level 2 and 3 sex offenders near my house and feel quite justified in that.

      Exact addresses are not given, just stuff like "1900 block of 25th Avenue".

    7. Re:Sex Offender's Registry by h4rm0ny · · Score: 5, Interesting


      A British newspaper did a bit of shit stirring in an attempt to boost sales. They published locations of sexual offenders names and addresses around the country. It kicked off a wave of assaults, cases of mistaken identity and included one woman whose home was wrecked and she narrowly escaped... because she was a peadiatrician.

      You want mob justice? Prepare for trial by gossip, then.

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    8. Re:Sex Offender's Registry by pherthyl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bullshit. If that's considered a dumb mistake, then 30%-50% of college students make the same mistake all the time. You think if the guy is a couple months older than his girlfriend, they're going to stop having sex when he turns 18?

      This does not fall under a stupid mistake.. It's a retarded law that was excercised because of a hysterical mother somewhere.

    9. Re:Sex Offender's Registry by jbarr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I am certainly not against your idea, but what I don't understand is why we are so eger to have sex offenders' names and locations so easily publically accessible, yet we do not do the same for other criminals? Killers, corporate criminals, etc. Why are these crimes exempt from continued public scrutiny after the criminal has "paid his dues" while sex offenders are not? Yes, sex offenders are a despicable lot, but why do we limit these listings to just them?

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  5. My Google Hack Idea by 0kComputer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not sure if this has been implemented yet. Or even how to do so, but I think a cool Google hack would be a graphical trace route program simillar to NeoTrace.

    Not sure how it would make money, but would be cool as hell with those satellite maps.

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    1. Re:My Google Hack Idea by ShadeARG · · Score: 5, Informative
  6. A great idea for the rest of us... by NewbieV · · Score: 5, Informative

    The NYPD uses a system very much like this, called COMPSTAT.

    More about the history of the program here (clicky)

    Here's an excerpt from the NYPD website:
    "Among the Command and Control Center's high-tech capabilities is its computerized 'pin mapping' which displays crime, arrest and quality of life data in a host of visual formats including comparative charts, graphs and tables. Through the use of MAPINFO software and other computer technology, for example, the CompStat database can be accessed and a precinct map depicting virtually any combination of crime and/or arrest locations, crime 'hot spots' and other relevant information can be instantly projected on the Center's large video projection screens."

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    1. Re:A great idea for the rest of us... by Momoru · · Score: 4, Informative

      So does Baltimore City

    2. Re:A great idea for the rest of us... by CrowScape · · Score: 4, Informative

      So does Chicago, and they make it available to the citizens. It's called ICAM. So congratulations Adrian, you created something that already existed!

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    3. Re:A great idea for the rest of us... by holovaty · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, CrowScape, I'm familiar with ICAM. Actually, that's where chicagocrime.org gets its data. My site provides a different view of the information.

  7. I doubt that was their intention... by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or is this all a clever trick on Google's part to build up more and more third parties dependent upon Google?

    I doubt that Google intended on getting third parties dependent on GMaps. If they really wanted that to happen they would have released an open API rather than having to have people poke around in the code to figure out how it all worked.

    Yeah, you can do some REALLY neat stuff with GMaps now (and even some of the things I suggested should be available when it first came out) but I just don't think that it was Google's main intention.

    If anything, they just want to be a player in the same markets as Yahoo and MSN and not have to link to their competitor's mapping products.

  8. Wow... by DeionXxX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm just simply amazed by both of the tools mentioned (the Crime Data and the Housing Maps)... we really live in interesting times. Why do these hacks work so well? Has google built an API to access these maps and to plot points on them, or have the developers of each of these hacks reverse-engineered the Google maps interface and figured out how to place stuff on them?

  9. Real Time Crime by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 5, Funny
    How long till we have real time crime data showing up on Google's map?


    <obligatory>
    It's already been done


    </obligatory>

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  10. Poor suckers. by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was able to tell the moment the Slashdot story went online... the chicagocrime.org site suddenly stopped responding. And it's not like we could have linked to a mirror.

    So you'll just have to take my word for it -- it was pretty cool. I found out that there were three reported crimes at Chicago cemeteries, for example -- a theft, a trespassing, and a vandalism. Crimes at airports included a "theft by lessee" -- looks like there's somebody at Midway who you shouldn't get your rental car from.

    The gas station link is holding up better, though. Hope it's not hosted at a gas station... kablooie!

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  11. While not nearly as cool... by hwyengr · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Chicago Police Department already has a web interface, called Citizen ICAM, which displays the same info. I do believe that the new site is compiling its data from ICAM. You can check out ICAM at http://12.17.79.6/

  12. The police could use it if ... by aaronmcdaid · · Score: 3, Funny

    It would be really useful if it could tell where the crime was about to occur .. in advance

  13. OT: SimCity by Stibidor · · Score: 4, Funny

    I haven't been able to connect to the site yet, but I'm wondering how closely it resembles the crime map view in SimCity. :)

    Ah, what a great game...

    1. Re:OT: SimCity by glass_window · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Who knows, but I can't wait to be able to check out my land value, my water coverage, my electric coverage, my air polution, all through the handy interface of google maps!

  14. The Fickle Slashdot Opinion by PhantomHarlock · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "Or is this all a clever trick on Google's part to build up more and more third parties dependent upon Google?"

    It's amazing how fast a company can go from being Slashdot's little darling to suddenly being suspected at every turn of being the new EvilEmpire(tm).

    Guys, these people are making wonderful tools and making them available for free, and letting people mess with them. They're probably reading comments like that slack-jawed, thinking "man, you just can't win with that crowd!" Give em a break! :)

    -M

  15. The big picture by RealProgrammer · · Score: 5, Interesting
    (er, so to speak)

    Or is this all a clever trick on Google's part to build up more and more third parties dependent upon Google?

    I think it's just a case of people using tools in ways their creators didn't envision. As Perl's Larry Wall says, that's the mark of a good tool.

    Another way to look at it is that if you serve people, they become dependent on you. Google is trying to build its business by offering services and getting people hooked.

    I, for one, welcome our new information infrastructure servant overlords.

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  16. Not at all new by Wabin · · Score: 5, Informative
    While this might be neat because it integrates with Google, the concept is not at all new. When I was shopping for condos in Chicago a few years ago, I looked at the Citizen ICAM site (forgive the slashdotting...), which actually has a somewhat better interface for search, in my opinion. It may not look as slick as google, but it does allow you to look over a range of dates, and the map icons identify the type of crime.

    It let me see that one prospective condo was right in a corner of fairly low crime, bordered by much higher crime. I could have guessed that visiting the neighborhood, but it was nice to see somewhat empirically.

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  17. Google maps with craigslist - Howto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    a howto which describes, how to combine Criagslist with Google Maps similar to the site mentioned inn the summary (http://www.paulrademacher.com/housing/)

  18. PLEASE make Coral links mandatory by LanMan04 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How hard is it for the editor who posts these stories to the front page of Slashdot to replace them with Coral Cache links?

    Seriously, just make it an automated process or something. ALWAYS make it a Coral link.

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  19. And for my next Google Maps Hack... by davidwr · · Score: 3, Funny

    A geographical map of sites unreachable due to the Slashdot Effect.

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  20. heh. the other night by Harper · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I whipped up a google maps hack of geolocation of Illinois registered sex offenders: http://demon.dopeman.org/sexOffenders/ It was amazingly easy.

    I used all of the tutorials and shit that the rancidbacon peeps created. made it rather simple. actually delightful.

    now if i was only mapping locations of something cool.. rather than depressing things.

    stupid maps.

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  21. Portland Oregon already has something better by pdxaaron · · Score: 3, Informative

    We already have PortlandMaps. You can see crime maps, tax maps, appraised value, bus routes, upcoming road improvments, much better satallite imagery... Google Maps has nothing on these guys. Every city should have something like this.

  22. very effective by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Funny

    since, judging by my abilities to connect to the server, some criminals seem to have made off with the server

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  23. How long before real estate interests ... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How long till we have real time crime data showing up on Google's map?

    How long before real estate interests make him pull the site down or make the agencies providing the crime data stop providing it - or stop providing it in a computer-useful form?

    Not a purely academic question. My wife noticed that crimes we's heard about from other sources was not being reported in some areas of Silicon Valley and asked the San Jose paper in question about it. The person she reached said that they didn't want to depress real estate values. B-(

    Then they wonder why we don't subscribe these days, and prefer to get our news from the web.

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  24. Why? by xant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because sex offenses of a particular kind are actually related to sexual addiction, and there is an extremely high recidivism rate due to the fact that prisons don't treat addiction very effectively, and treating addiction at all is difficult in the first place, and these are people that are extremely deep into their addictions to have committed their crimes.

    Having said that:
    * Why don't we fix the prison system so it does treat addictive behaviors related to sex?
    * Why don't we distinguish between sex crimes that are connected to an addition and those that are not, and not track sexual offenders who are unlikely to commit a new crime?
    * Why are there so many people on the list who don't deserve to be there? (Misguided applications of the statutory-rape laws come to mind, as others have pointed out.)

    Without fixing these problems I am opposed to the sex offender registry, but I do understand why it exists.

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