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SMU Lecturer Takes Heat For Blog

nasta writes "Houston Chronicle article For most of the past two semesters, nobody knew the identity of "The Phantom Professor." The educator's anonymous Web log, set at an unnamed university "in the South," spun tales of spoiled-rich "Ashleys" with their $500 sandals and $1,500 handbags, eating disorders, plagiarism and drug use, legal and illegal. "At this school it seems like every kid is on multiple medications," the professor wrote, describing her charges as "barely literate," prone to emotional problems and "terrified of displeasing Mommy and Daddy.""

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  1. Southern Methodist University by __aaitqo8496 · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...in case anybody was wondering.

    1. Re:Southern Methodist University by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Being from Dallas, I can confirm his observations... You wouldn't believe the cars these kids drive.

      (Of course they all have "W - The President" stickers on them.)

    2. Re:Southern Methodist University by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How dare you reveal the secret identity of the university that had heretofore been cloaked by the pseudonym "SMU"! ;-)

  2. Amen. by Seumas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Man, no kidding. I'm surprised by how many people I know who are on one, two or more medications. And we're usually talking xanax, prozac, zoloft and the like rather than blood pressure meds. And not just spoiled little rich kids, though they tend to be the most likely, because they're more likely to get a therapist if they have "problems" and, in turn, are more likely then to be prescribed drugs to deal with whatever lame problem they supposedly have.

    I can't even count how many people I know who claim they have "anxiety disorder" and "panic attacks". So they dope up on half a dozen things, instead. I mean, yeah, life sucks - but holy shit.

    And then after awhile, they start trading their prescriptions with other people. A few zoloft in turn for a few valium. Or if they have some leftovers (especially stuff like valium and percoset), they hand them off to their friends so they can get off on them, too.

    It's just pathetic. And I bet that half the people I know other than at work are like that. Often people I would have never guessed. They'd like you to think that they need it because their life is so terrible, but the truth is lots of peopel have a hard life. These people just have a hard time dealing with life.

    And yeah, I know the girls with 400 pairs of expensive shoes who have traveled more by the age of 18 than I could ever hope to travel in four lifetimes. Their biggest concerns seem to be "panties or not?" on any given date for any given night. Oh, such dilemmas.

    If I were a professor and I had to deal with people like that for a living on a daily basis, I'd probably vent, too. In fact, I'd probably climb the nearest clock tower.

    1. Re:Amen. by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The worst part of it is , the people who truely do need the medication seem to always slip through the net.
      Ive seen people with Goth disease(Oh my parents are so nice blah blah my life sucks) shoved on zoetrope and other manageries of medications whilst people with true problems and certifiable conditions are just passed by and ignored .
      Ive seen it all too often and ussualy it does involve parents who are better off and pay for private Psycholigists and therapist who dont think twice up presribing a miracle cure for a teenager with mood swings and angst (unlike every other teenager in the world*cough*).
      On the flip side i know a few people (who thankfully now are getting treatment) who were blown off by doctors as just having teenage angst when really they did have far more serious issues and had clear signs of conditions ranging from Manic-Depresion/bipolar to Schitzophrenia .
      The competence of Docters nowadays really does give some rise for concern especialy in the Psychiatric world , People are either not medicated when they need it , Medicated when they dont need it , or Medicated when they should be in Therapy .

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    2. Re:Amen. by torpor · · Score: 1, Troll

      The worst part of it is , the people who truely do need the medication seem to always slip through the net.


      nobody needs these drugs. they are sold simply to line the pockets of the pharmaceuticals' executives ..

      most 'modern mental health' problems can be solved by removing the blind faith one puts in so-called 'mental health professionals', who really are little more than shills for the biggest con ever played on a society by mass market engineers.

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    3. Re:Amen. by Hungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I am glad you are so knowledgeable in biochemistry and specifically the brain's neuro transmitters. I wish you could have told that to my great grandfather so my grandfather, father and I wouldn't have had top suffer from his obviously not congenital illness.

      The fact is while many meds are over prescribed in the form of designer cocktails there are many people who would not be functional without proper medication.

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    4. Re:Amen. by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      I lived with someone who was profoundly depressed for six months.

      She had the whole Physician's Desk Reference memorized and could talk with amazing knowledge and erudition about every antidepressant that ever existed.

      She had a psychiatrist she loved, and she would go to him and discuss prescriptions with him on a PhD level.

      None of this -- I repeat, NONE of this -- ever helped her with her depression.

      When there was a problem with her supply of drugs, she would get frantic but it felt almost like she was LESS depressed when she didn't have them, because there was some kind of cause with which to frame her life, namely her lack of drugs.

      My conclusion from this is that antidepressants do virtually nothing real.

      Anyone have stories where they actually pulled someone out of a tailspin? In the end, her situation got so bad that I eventually had to send my friend back to her native Canada, with her hopes that the Canadian healthcare system would help her. Alas, from the messages I've received from her since, I don't think it did.

      D

    5. Re:Amen. by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Anti-depresants can work in some situations , others require them coupled with intensive therapy to get to the root of the problem , sadly all too often docters are far too happy just to dole out the pills , fire and forget

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    6. Re:Amen. by metalhed77 · · Score: 1

      Psychiatrists and psychologists are often to blame, another problem is general practitioners who hand out prozac like candy. Administering these drugs takes a lot of knowledge and experience, I know far too many people who get their anti-depressants straight from their GP. These drugs really should only be prescribed by psychiatrists. Hell, finding a decent psychiatrist (I was misdiagnosed by 3 very highly paid ones) is hard enough, having a completely unequiped GP administer these is one of the worst aspects of the current US medical system.

      Bipolar disorder, which you mention, is often not diagnosed, especially not in the milder cases (which I have). It's quite amazing how wildly the quality of psychiatrists varies.

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    7. Re:Amen. by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ive seen plenty of people With Bipolar diagnosed as Scitzophrenic or other disoders at first by totaly incompetent docters , and a hell of alot more just classed as having a mild clinical depresion ..
      One thing ive heard alot is docters going "well your ok now though so perhaps you worked through it" or the likes...And as you most likely know with certain types of Bipolar people can seem totaly fine at times , but try telling that to a GP.
      I have often helped folks get things together for taking to the GP and trying to get them some proper treatment .Shoving someone with BP on a Prozac derivitave could have really negative effects and end up making people worse . I think the main problem is lack of funding and not enough competent psychiatric nurses/docters.

      Unfortunatly its not just in the USA , Its as bad in the UK and Germany .

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    8. Re:Amen. by ignorant_coward · · Score: 1

      I knew a person who didn't get a prescription filled in time, and when she took the first anti-depressant, whe immediately changed in personality. Clearly, the pill takes longer than that to take effect: the placebo effect is stronger than the actual medication!

      (The 'i'm not a script' thingy is damn near impossible to read!!!! WTF?!?)

    9. Re:Amen. by lobsterGun · · Score: 1
      The competence of Docters nowadays...


      Was there ever a time where doctors were any more or less competant than right now? What has changed during the course of human history that makes you think that doctors are espescially poor right now?
    10. Re:Amen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was not implied

    11. Re:Amen. by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      None of this -- I repeat, NONE of this -- ever helped her with her depression.

      OK, let's assume that your assessment is correct, and that the anti-depressants did not actually help her, and the reason she was obsessed with them was that she had what an earlier generation of psychologist would describe as a neurotic and infantile fixation on them. Can you logically deduce this statement:

      My conclusion from this is that antidepressants do virtually nothing real.

      The logical bar for such a broad statement is very high indeed; it can only be true if there is no identifiable subset of people with depression for which the drugs are statistically better than nothing. I think what you have proven is that some people do not benefit from any of the anti-depression medications that are available.

      Depression is very complex; basically it is a set of symptoms that I think any thoughtful person will conclude could come from multiple causes. It follows that depression is very difficult to treat. If the depression is secondary to some other condition other than the specific organic cause the antidepressant addresses, why would you expect the antidepressant to help in that specific case? For example, if the person has problems with his life falling apart due to substance abuse, the related depression cannot be treated with Prozac, but Prozac might be helpful if the underlying problem is an abnormality in the way his brain uses serotonin.

      I only mention this because I happen to know some people who your friend reminds me of. You say she was frantic, but actually seemed better when she was having problems getting medication. It may not have been that the medication was harming her, so much as that the problems were helping her. I am not a psychiatrist, but the people I have in mind also have a tendency to do better when things are going worse. Some of them,after watching them in action, clearly actively seek out chaos, generate emergencies, and incite interpersonal conflicts, particularly when things seem to be going fine. When the emergencies hit, they actually seem to be serene and in control, provided the level of chaos doesn't get too high (which is inevitably does sooner or later). These people seem to need an extra "oomph" that emergencies bring. They also tend to have a pattern of dependency on others for stability and long term direction. But, if you lead the kind of lives these people lead, depression is almost a normal response. You can't expect to treat that kind of depression by monkeying with the mood mechanisms of the brain.

      In any case, I don't offer this as advice or diagnosis, which I'm not qualified to give, but to point out how difficult it is to reason from specific to general cases.

      Moving on from the specific issue of antidepressants to psychiatric medications in general, even if you grant that antidepressants are useless in every case, it doesn't follow that all psychiatric medications are useless. I know personally, because I have a familiy member with schizophrenia. If you've never seen the difference between a person with this condition on medication and off, all I can say is that it is not something subtle.

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    12. Re:Amen. by torpor · · Score: 1

      I am glad you are so knowledgeable ... blah blah .. neuro transmitters. .. blah blah .. great grandfather .. blah .. my grandfather, father and I wouldn't have had top suffer from his obviously not congenital illness. .. i'm sorry you, and your advanced civilization, are so on top of their state of mind, that they were willing to let someone else profit from drugging them into oblivion.

      4 generations of crack-heads in charge, yo!

      there are many people who would not be functional without proper medication.

      yeah. and there are plenty of people who would not be functional without proper water, too. but i don't see your society^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hmega-corps solving that problem as 'easily' as they "delve into the depths of the bwain, bwian, and pwumb its myth-terries!!"

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    13. Re:Amen. by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      I don't have that much to say in a response, but I wanted to thank you for a most interesting post.

      And you are right that logically, a single instance cannot prove whether something works or something doesn't.

      On the other hand, if I have this post on Slashdot for, say, 24 hours or so, and nobody comes up with a story of an antidepressant actually working well for them, I would say it's likely to be pretty rare that antidepressants do work.

      So we'll see. I'm trying to keep an open mind.

      D

    14. Re:Amen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know that they tend to be vastly overperscribed, but I think that, especially for teenagers, they can be very useful in two ways other than the longterm doping type thing. one is just to buy time to deal with the problem - the classic pills+therapy. The prozac helps to stabalize the symptoms enough that you can start treating the root cause. This was the case with my younger brother. the other way I think it tends to be useful with teenagers is just to buy time for their bodies to solve the issue. once the raging hormone thing slows around college, there is less issue to treat - this is more for physical effects due to puberty than mental issues generally, but seriously, I'm a hell of a lot less dangerous and unstable than I was as a teenage guy, in part just due to not having quite the reflexive rage/aggression/fightor flight that is partly hormone driven.

    15. Re:Amen. by Hungus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can say that anti depressents and other psychiatric meds work for me. I take 2 drugs for issues that I have and both are mapped physically (one a problem with my addreanal gland and regulation of them , the other a problem with the reticular activating system) I have had these conditions for 27 years and for 22 years I went through counseling, trying to just deal with it, and drug cocktails galore. Finally, I found a doctor who diagnosed me properly and changed my meds. One of the drugs is fast acting as in within 10 minutes there is an immediate change the other acts within an hour with its peak in 4 hours. One condistion is known as akankastic disorder the other what you would commonly know as severe ADD. So here I am one person answering your post and saying drugs do have an effect and can change people's personality effectively immediately. I will note that most older drugs do take a week or two to build up to sufficient levels. Also note that I have taken a lot of different medications over the years (currently my meds cost about 600 dollars a month) and even though many of them are supposed to affect the same chemicals since everyone's chemistry is different they may or may not have an effect on any particular individual.

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    16. Re:Amen. by rossifer · · Score: 1

      My fiance takes Zoloft and an anti-anxiety drug called "Busparin" (sp?). These two drugs have changed her life pretty dramatically (she started taking them about six months before we started dating). She used to have trouble with obsessive thought patterns and felt that her life was in a rut.

      Since taking the drugs, she has been able to control the obsessive thoughts, meet me (we met through an online dating site), start her PhD (just the dissertation to go), get engaged to me, buy a motorcycle, enjoy riding her motorcycle, and basically start enjoying her life.

      So there's one positive testimonial. Though I do agree that antidepressants appear to be radically overprescribed, Zoloft has had a very positive effect on at least one person.

      Regards,
      Ross

    17. Re:Amen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not them, it's the society we made.

      We turned our society into the ***t hole it is today and now in order to keep people's mind off the futility of living in a world where anything worth doing is either illegal or will get you fired, they give people "happy pills".

      take your soma everyone! no bad thoughts ; )

    18. Re:Amen. by Seumas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The thing that pisses me off the most is how many of these people taking one or more medications (wellbutrin, etc) are diagnosed with little more than "anxiety disorder".

      They're people who are nervous or panic if they go outside or have to be around a group of people. Especially new people. Or whatever. I mean, who ISN'T at least a little on-edge in certain situations? And how can so much of the population have such a hard time with it, that they need to be prescribed drugs just to step outside their door or go have dinner in a public place or get their ass to work?!

      It sounds much like a cop-out to me. Some people are just more social than others. If you're likely to freak out and stab some people or so depressed and self-loathing that you're likely to slit your wrists, I can understand medicating you (though there is a whole Darwin/clean-the-gene-pool discussion to be had there). But do we really need to be medicating you, because "lots of people make me nervous"?!

      Hey, I'm a big fat guy (that didn't used to be) and I'm more self concious about going out in public now. I'm a friendly, engaging person and you wouldn't know I was self-concious or nervous ever, even if I really was. But I just suck it up and be a man about it. I certainly don't need a fucking stockpile of mood altering, mind-numbing pills for it.

      Now, granted, maybe this "panic attack" thing really IS so incredibly strong that the medications (for the rest of your life apparently) are justified. But that still doesn't explain why SO MANY PEOPLE seem to have this "panic attack" and "anxiety disorder" thing.

      If you watch some of the commercials that advertise drugs for such things, they would have you believe that if you "sometimes feel under the weather" or "would rather stay in sometimes than go out" or "feel uncomfortable in new situations" - you need to contact your doctor and ask about some prescription drug or another. I mean, holy crap - apparently unless you're always smiling, agreeble and going out to party - you have a mental disorder?!?!

    19. Re:Amen. by realityfighter · · Score: 1

      It probably has a little to do with the fact that people with real mental or mood disorders are often antisocial or even hostile to the idea of seeing a psychiatrist. Whereas the Emokids are actually friendly and open about telling anyone and everyone how much their life sucks. Psychiatrists are supposed to be above these kind of distinctions, but you can't treat people who won't come into the office or won't talk to the doctor. I'm not saying that it's the fault of those potential patients, just that it happens.

      Especially applicable to those gifted kids who see their psychological problems as a challenge and want to tackle em on their own. (Yeah, Joe Slashdotter, I'm lookin at you.)

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    20. Re:Amen. by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      And I bet that half the people I know other than at work are like that. Often people I would have never guessed.

      You'll be surprised to find out about some of those co-workers years down the line.

      In the past few months I found out that, in the time since I worked with them, one former co-worker had a breakdown and checked himself into a mental hospital for several weeks; another is apparently dealing with an addiction to pain meds; and a third, after losing health insurance and not being able to get the medication that prevented panic attacks, was for a time homeless and living on the streets.

      These were all highly skilled professionals; two of them are older than me (I'm 35), the third younger but still not a kid.

      And those are just the ones I happen to have heard about.

      I guess I've sort of come to expect, or at least not be surprised, by hearing stories like that from my friends from my artist, poet, and musician friends. But to hear it from my professional acquaintances was quite a surprise. Of course it shouldn't have been, and that was stupid prejudice on my part.

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    21. Re:Amen. by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Interesting
      And how can so much of the population have such a hard time with it, that they need to be prescribed drugs just to step outside their door or go have dinner in a public place or get their ass to work?!

      Because over the past few decades we've created a seriously dysfunctional society.

      High population density, a highly moblile society resulting in looser and less supporting family and social bonds, an economy where fewer and fewer people do any sort of meaningful work and there is deliberate pressure to increase consumption, ecological devistation, the degradation of the mental environment, the fear of weapons of mass destruction (at least global thermonuclear war seems a lot less possible these days)...

      Constant low-level stress can be much more damaging than simple direct threats.

      Of course part of the problem is the overmedicalization you mention; if every cranky moment is a "mental health" disorder for which we can sell you a drug, so much the better for the bottom line of Our Beloved Corporate Masters (TM). But that's only a small part of the overall problem of a system that's working against, rather than for, human happiness.

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    22. Re:Amen. by stoborrobots · · Score: 1

      If either of you have the inclination, you may be interested in other tools available to reduce her dependence on the drugs... (Disclaimer: I know nothing about the condition beyond what I read in books and the scientific press...)

      I picked up this book at an airport the other day:
      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060 988479/ref=dp_nav_0/103-5692295-5136626
      "The Mind and the Brain", by Jeffrey M. Schwartz and Sharon Begley

      It discusses the successes that several groups have had developing self-directed therapies for OCD, Tourette's Syndrome, and depression, among others. While this book is not about the therapy itself, it does describe the workings of the process. (I believe Dr Schwartz's other books go into more detail about the processes, if you are interested in them.)

      Apart from one chapter, (chapter 8) which takes a diversion into quantum physics and philosophy,the rest is an interesting look into what we can see of how the brain works, and how we can use our mind to affect the way in which our brain develops. The philosophy chapter is safely skipped if you do not have an interest in how neuroscience lags physics in it's understanding of the mind/brain duality.

      I realise that there are probably thousands of self-help books out there targeting this market; this book is not one of them... (It is actually focused on the philosophy aspect - it just does a really good job of explaining the experiments, the results and the conclusions of two decades of neuroscience before it gets to its main aim...) I was really impressed with what the experiments imply about the mind's ability to manipulate the development of the healthy brain - but the direct application to the treatment of brain-related troubles is clearly spelled out too...

      Just a thought... I read it, and it sounds like you might be interested in it... Especially reading some of your contributions in the philosophical beliefs thread...

      Of course, if you're happy with how things are, there's probably no reason to screw around with what works...

      PS: I just looked it up: the "self-help" book describing the process is "Brain Lock", also by Jeffery Schwartz. I have not read that book, so I can't offer on comment on it.

    23. Re:Amen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and all too often medical doctors don't recognize that there is a problem, or that medication could be useful to their patients. The errors go both ways.

    24. Re:Amen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      People are either not medicated when they need it , Medicated when they dont need it , or Medicated when they should be in Therapy .
      Or they are medicated when they do need it, or not medicated when they don't need it, or placed in therapy when they should be medicated. Is there some reason you left out these possibilities? Do you know what the relative percentages are for all of these situations, or are you just talking out your arse?
    25. Re:Amen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I mean, holy crap - apparently unless you're always smiling, agreeble and going out to party - you have a mental disorder?!?!
      But that is not the case. Apparently you are missing something.
    26. Re:Amen. by rossifer · · Score: 1

      In fact, there is an old copy of "Brain Lock" on one of her bookshelves that has been read through several times (I have not yet read it myself). She has mentioned to me that she tried many alternative techniques, and at this point, she considers them ineffective for helping her. It took an enormous number of failed alternatives before she would consider taking drugs. Given the beliefs she has today about medication, I'm a little suprised that she ever made the decision to take Zoloft.

      I think that she was that desperate (to accept information that she didn't want to believe), and we're both happy with where she is right now. Not that she's not stressed out with classes and work, not that she doesn't have times when she's frustrated with circumstances, not that life is perfect... But things are good. And that's as much as either of us can ask for.

      Regards,
      Ross

    27. Re:Amen. by looseBits · · Score: 1

      Today's doctors are little more than pushers... someone goes in and at the advice of a 30 sec commercial and asks their Doctor about $MIND_ALTERING_DRUG and the doctor just hands them some samples and offers them a prescription.

      Perhaps I'm old school but I feel that the brain is far too complicated and too little is known to be messing around with in these minor cases.. the best prescription for 90% of today's problems is something we've been taking for a long, long time.. 300 mgs of Suck It the Hell Up.

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    28. Re:Amen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's pre-WW1-paradise-in-England syndrome. People like to imagine that things were much better in the past and that civilisation will have ended by next Tuesday

  3. Oh great, now movies made from blogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another reason for keeping the telly disconnected.

    1. Re:Oh great, now movies made from blogs by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I don't see how she could have enough content for a coherent movie. And gee, there hasn't been a movie about spoiled rich brats out of touch with reality who fuck around, drink a lot, do a lot of drugs, are on a lot of prescriptions, have lots of mental problems and have a lot of eating disorders and mental breakdowns and spend their time whining to the $200/hr therapist about how mommy and daddy don't love them.

      Come on - it's a cliche. We've all been there, been around it, known people like that or at least seen enough movies/books/television about it.

    2. Re:Oh great, now movies made from blogs by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, I don't see how she could have enough content for a coherent movie

      And, that'll stop Hollywood how?

    3. Re:Oh great, now movies made from blogs by Seumas · · Score: 1

      I can just see that stupid chick who directed that whiney "life is so hard for a girl" movie "Thirteen" (worst piece of indulgent crap EVER). This seems like EXACTLY her type of material.

      Of course, she won't call the brats to the floor for anything. Her movie would sympathize with the plight of spoiled little rich girls indulged by their mommies and daddies and older guys. Oh, so tragic being a rich pretty young female! You have to, like, look pretty and keep your mouth shut and stuff! Ohmigod!

    4. Re:Oh great, now movies made from blogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know, I know, Prozac Nation. And we got to see Riccis boobies too.

  4. Amusing quotes. by Oldest+European · · Score: 1

    Why is this posted under Privacy and not It's funny, because that's what it is. :o)

    1. Re:Amusing quotes. by whidbey+island+geek · · Score: 1
      Because someone losing their job over something they wrote on their own time is not funny; especially when you work in a building that has the First Amendment carved on the front of it (FTA).

      I know that SMU said she was let go for reasons not related to her blog, but that seems fishy.

      It reminds my of the flight attendant who lost her job for her blog. http://queenofsky.journalspace.com/

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    2. Re:Amusing quotes. by ignorant_coward · · Score: 1

      Because someone losing their job over something they wrote on their own time is not funny; especially when you work in a building that has the First Amendment carved on the front of it (FTA).

      The First Amendment is trumped by Rich Alumni who send their Rich Spoiled Brats to the university, paying (I mean wasting) tons of money on tuition, housing, and, eventually, big alumni donations.

    3. Re:Amusing quotes. by stoborrobots · · Score: 1

      It reminds my of the flight attendant who lost her job for her blog.

      And then there was the Washingtonienne debacle...

    4. Re:Amusing quotes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I know that SMU said she was let go for reasons not related to her blog, but that seems fishy.
      What seems fishy about it? It sounds like she was a bitch and had a fair amount of comtempt for her students. I'm not at all surprised that she was fired regardless of whether they found her blog or not.
  5. Whose rights? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    from the who's-rights? dept.

    Who's? You mean "who is"? Or "who has"? "Who was"?

    Pertinent question, though. Surely the lecturer's blogging activities, although possibly unprofessional, were completely within the realm of acceptibility -- as long as she wasn't giving away enough specific personal information so as to convey the identities of the people she was writing about.

    Hmm. Newsflash: Kids these days are fucked up. Film at 11.

    1. Re:Whose rights? by TFGeditor · · Score: 1, Redundant

      I think it should have been "whose."

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    2. Re:Whose rights? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mods on crack. May your asshole rot out, your head rot through, an break your neck.

  6. Zero sympathy by Otter · · Score: 3, Interesting
    A point that's made in the article (this happened about a month ago, BTW) but is obscured by the piece the submitter chose to quote is this: she was retelling extremely sensitive stories about easily identifiable students and teachers, including things that students were telling her in private face-to-face meetings.

    Sorry, zero sympathy from me. Beyond the fact that she blatantly despises half her students and sucks up to the other half by badmouthing the "rich girls" (which is unprofessional enough), violating confidentiality the way she did is way over the line. A tenure-track professor should have been bounced for doing what she did, never mind an adjunct.

    Points off to SMU for weaseling about it, though.

    1. Re:Zero sympathy by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 1

      "Elaine Liner, an adjunct professor who taught writing and ethics classes in SMU's public relations department since 2001, revealed in an online publication that the blog was hers."

      (Emphasis is mine)

      I think they couldn't have picked a worse person to teach that kind of class. This is just so surreal.

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    2. Re:Zero sympathy by torpor · · Score: 1

      I think they couldn't have picked a worse person to teach that kind of class. This is just so surreal.



      i dunno, how could you say someone is an 'expert' on ethics if they haven't run the full spectrum on it?

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    3. Re:Zero sympathy by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 1

      i dunno, how could you say someone is an 'expert' on ethics if they haven't run the full spectrum on it?

      I hope this was sarcasm.

      In the case it wasn't, by the same logic a judge would need to commit all possible crimes to be able to judge them.

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      It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
      Be yourself no matter what they say
    4. Re:Zero sympathy by torpor · · Score: 1

      oh, but by your logic, i wouldn't have to know anything at all in order to call myself an expert on anything.

      sheesh. black, white, or chartreuse? pick -only- one for your argument.

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    5. Re:Zero sympathy by DaoudaW · · Score: 3, Interesting

      she was retelling extremely sensitive stories about easily identifiable students and teachers, including things that students were telling her in private face-to-face meetings.

      Did you RTFB? She claims and after reading through some of the blog I would agree that she was very careful to protect students' privacy. As a teacher myself, and former adjunct, her stories sound like the typical mix of frustration and admiration that teachers everywhere have for their students. She certainly makes a better attempt at protecting student anonymity than most faculty lounge conversations. She is not writing vitriolic diatribes, but is simply laughing and crying over human foibles.

    6. Re:Zero sympathy by TykeClone · · Score: 1

      I figured that the only school in NCAA history to receive the death penalty for football wouldn't be offering ethics classes...

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    7. Re:Zero sympathy by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      I, too, read part of the blog.

      She struck me as someone who really cares about teaching and her students, and she certainly didn't name names.

      I don't think it's bad for students to know what teachers really think of them. It might even create some empathy in the minds of the students.

      I now work for a Chemistry professor at a major university, and I know that I would have felt differently about my college experience if I knew about the hard work, long nights and love that goes into teaching a class.

      D

    8. Re:Zero sympathy by trixillion · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I read the entire blog. I may agree with much of what she had to say. Regardless, the entire affair is highly unprofessional and SMU was right to can her. She made serious ethical lapses, period.

      Bad mouthing students is sufficient in my mind for canning her. If you are in a business and you run around publically bad mouthing your clients, don't be shocked when you get the pink slip and your colleagues shun you. That's the real world.

      Repeating stories told in confidence is immoral. I imagine that psychologist blogs would be highly entertaining reads. They would also be highly unethical.

    9. Re:Zero sympathy by jackofallbrandnames · · Score: 2, Informative

      From TFA. --- No names were used, but this spring at Southern Methodist University, students and faculty began recognizing themselves in the phantom's prose. A student in SMU's corporate communications and public affairs department discovered the blog had quoted the content of e-mail she had sent to one of her teachers. It called her "clueless." An assistant professor had no trouble identifying herself in another short posting about a faculty member who was "fresh from a mediocre Midwestern University with a Ph.D. in something no one cares about." --- I agree with the grandparent...zero sympathy. She should have done a better job as a positioned professional: 1) Despite the level of protection exhibited, she published material obtained from her role and violated the client relationship (students are to teacher as the client is to the lawyer or therapist). 2) The fact that she teaches a writing class itself defines the requirement for perfection in publishment (blogs, albeit anonymous, are a form of publishing).

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    10. Re:Zero sympathy by Create+an+Account · · Score: 1

      How about, her other class was ethics?

      She's like, I'm fired? Why?

      She thinks it's because of her blog? She was probably just bad at her job.

  7. URL (for the google challanged) by yo · · Score: 4, Informative


    http://phantomprof.blogspot.com/

    It is entertaining actually.

  8. From her blog... by technopinion · · Score: 1

    "Signed with a top agent last week."

    Hmmm....
    1. Write a blog about your job and the idiots you work with/teach
    2. Get fired for it
    3. Get an agent
    4. ???
    5. Profit!

  9. Spoiled college students by Oshkoshjohn · · Score: 1

    Am I the only person here who has read Tom Wolfe's novel, "I Am Charlotte Simmons?"

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    1. Re:Spoiled college students by S.+Baldrick · · Score: 0

      You're probably the only one who'll admit to it.

    2. Re:Spoiled college students by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one here reads that right wing crap.

    3. Re:Spoiled college students by Oshkoshjohn · · Score: 1

      Hey, c'mon . . .don't let the big words and long-winded humor throw you; Tom Wolfe has been a good read since the late nineteen-sixties, when he was writing for "Vanity Fair," "Esquire," and "New Yorker." Some stories, such as "Bonfire of the Vanities" may have been close to sucking, but at the end of the book I was glad I made it through the convoluted prose.

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  10. You need a new keyboard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your apostrophe key is broken.

    1. Re:You need a new keyboard. by ignorant_coward · · Score: 1


      This is Slashdot. Did you mean 'atrophy key'?

  11. Looking forward to when she resent herself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The educator's anonymous Web log, set at an unnamed university "in the South," spun tales of spoiled-rich "Ashleys" with their $500 sandals and $1,500 handbags

    "I heard the two words every writer waits a lifetime to hear," she said. "Movie deal."

    I'm assuming she won't be buying anything with the money from her movie deal? She sounds exactly like the kid that was picked last for every team ... only an adult version. She finds it ironic that the First Ammendment is carved in the building in which she taught? I find it ironic that she was supposed to be teaching ethics. Personally, I hope they DO make a movie ... and she's the villain.

    ...I'm posting anonymously, I figured she'd appreciate that.

    1. Re:Looking forward to when she resent herself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      resent = resents ... guess I should learn to type.

    2. Re:Looking forward to when she resent herself... by Caiwyn · · Score: 1

      She finds it ironic that the First Ammendment is carved in the building in which she taught? I find it ironic that she was supposed to be teaching ethics.

      Well said. I actually once worked with Elaine, when she was writing TV and movie reviews for the Corpus Christi Caller-Times. "Full of herself," as another poster here put it, doesn't even begin to describe her. Just read her last column for a taste.

      She left the Caller-Times to take a job as media critic for the Toledo Blade. She was gone from there in less than a year -- it seems Toledo saw her for what she was.

      She hasn't had a steady gig since. No wonder she's angling for a movie deal. Something tells me she'll fit right in with the sharks of Hollywood.

  12. Wait... by setzman · · Score: 0
    How are they calling her "professor? when she doesn't even have a masters degree?

    Liner, listed on a campus directory as a lecturer, is still working toward a master's degree.

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    1. Re:Wait... by setzman · · Score: 1

      Nevermind. She says on her blog that she finished her masters.

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    2. Re:Wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, her blog's reference to that article basically says 'No, [she] did finish it, the newspaper (or whatever the hell) screwed up.'

  13. How's this for irony by Bandito · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Earlier this month, Elaine Liner, an adjunct professor who taught writing and ethics classes in SMU's public relations department since 2001, revealed in an online publication that the blog was hers.

  14. The most important statement of them all: by Stavr0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Phantom Professor on term papers:
    What they don't realize is that it's just college. These are just little assignments that teachers give so we can figure out what grades to type in next to your name at the end of the semester. They're not life and death, these grades, these papers, these group projects. They're very often little more than glorified busywork. Truth? They're to prepare you for a career of TPS Reports and annual "employee self-evaluations."

    1. Re:The most important statement of them all: by zoloto · · Score: 1

      Believe it or not, a LOT of schools do just this under the guise of actually producing employable people with ideas, intelligence (as opposed to memorized facts and assorted bs that means jack shit in the real world) and fluff.

      Most of the good schools that teach you skills, coming all from my limited scope and experience visiting many campuses across the US of A over the past 10 years and reading the curriculum are in fact, a hard search to boot. The old days of a name from an ivy league college are at an end and have been for some time. It's all staked on an old and currently undeserved reputation.

      Cornell is great and NYU too, from my personal experience. But the quality of individuals being pumped out of universities over the past 5 years is absolutely atrocious. You can teach anyone data, processes and supply chain it seems when it comes to business.

      How about ethics? The ability to think FAR outside the box in truly innovative and creative ways? Do I expect too much of my coworkers to actually work and be efficient / cohesive in a business environment? What does it take to get employees like that? I'm not talking the difference between a degree vs. no degree b/c I would almost always choose a degree over someone without one for a whole array of reasons.

      But choosing someone with actual ethics and proven ability to work and do what their told without the deep need to rebel against "the man" or some fictional agenda people seem to have, where conforming is seen as the worst thing since fire and brimstone in hell - THAT is definitely someone I would hire. And not a drone. Drones can be replaced by machines and fab plants that don't require unions and intensive cash drainage annually... or when the employee wants to sue because they think they "deserve" a job.

      Damn what a rant, sorry :P

    2. Re:The most important statement of them all: by benjamindees · · Score: 0, Troll

      Wow, you're an idiot.

      First, you decry the fact that colleges produce mindless drones. Then you say you want a drone. And then you say you don't. And, in the end, you still think the ideal employee has a degree.

      What is it? Do you want employees that "actually work and be efficient", or do you want people who "do what their told"?

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    3. Re:The most important statement of them all: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to be blaming socialogical problems on education.

      Some would say the deteroiration of the family and other things like that are the real cause. The fact that the educational system sucks is a side effect of deeper problems.

  15. Just another crappy blog, move along. by artifex2004 · · Score: 1

    I was bored on the first page, with her current entries. She's full of herself and how she's better than the people she purports to teach, and yet she says she reads "gawker.com" at lunch. Whether that's a wink to them to try to get a deal, or really her idea of entertainment, I can't be sure, but how can I respect someone like that?

    Of course, my idea of entertainment is slashdot, so I really shouldn't point fingers... oh, yes, I'm a student at SMU, too. But at the geek campus :)

  16. Photo of Elaine Liner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Photo of Elaine Liner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  17. There's farked and there's farked by suitepotato · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My wife is on depression meds, the right ones now, which address the bipolar symptoms of what was regarded as garden variety manic depression with an accent on depression. No more violent outbursts, much more rational thought, much more mature behavior, much greater happiness.

    I probably should be on meds but practice willful almost psychotic disassociation from myself and my cares and instead go right past all the stages, right past acceptance, to someplace riding the wave ahead of everything. This place is called DILLIGAF Land. It's why I don't smack people with a keyboard when they pronounce TCP/IP "tee cee pip".

    There are such things as these intrusions on normal thought processes, and partly they are of our own making. The modern world as I've noted before seems hellbent on a concept that the whole world is wrong, unfair, we're screwed before we start and can never win, it's someone else's fault, boo hoo hoo. When you hear this over and over again, you can't help but be affected by it. I think this common mindset in the west, most especially that seen in America, is one of the things working to subconsciously hobble us.

    Then there's the real chemical imbalance issues which people have always had, but used to have more societal back-up and reinforcement in fighting. A lot of very secretly screwed up people kept it that way largely, secret. They kept it under control. These days, society isn't helping. Now you're on your own if you want to fight those feelings. In fact, you're encouraged to let them run free and loose. And appear on Springer or Povich.

    I used to think everyone was just farked and lazy and if I could go without meds and manage and behave, then so could they. I've come to realize their collectively created social environment has already gone too far round the bend for it to be easy for any one unexceptional person. My psyche's little quirks just seem to lend themselves to sitting between apathy and disinterest. I recommend to everyone that the last person they need to concern themselves with is them and yet, the first and only one. It's a matter of how. You have to cut your emotional attachments to your old sense of self and rebuild a new one based on rationality and not chaotic FUD. My world ended a long time ago and I feel fine. On with the new world.

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  18. Pics (for those still living in the basement) by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 1
  19. Interesting and I have to wonder. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

    How many of these issues are caused by just bad parenting.
    I would love to see a study comparing the mental health of people to the number of hours spend in with their parent.
    It is beginning to look as if drugs, TV, videos, and the Internet are all be used to replace parents.

    I watched Nanny 911 last night. I have to wonder why it took an "expert" to tell these parents that.
    1. Children should not have unlimited candy.
    2. That yelling at your children is not always the best action to take.
    For some people those drugs you talk about are life savers.

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    1. Re:Interesting and I have to wonder. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the parents are bad, then more time spent with the parents would cause more problems for the children, no?

  20. ADHD by wayward · · Score: 1

    After being misdiagnosed, I finally went to a doctor who noticed that some of my difficulties were consistent with ADHD. The medication helps, but I've also had to develop strategies to work around some of the difficulties. Although I take Ritalin, I've never considered sharing or trading it. There's really no temptation to take more than prescribed either; in fact, it's challenging to remember to take it consistently. So the idea of psychiatric meds being for spoiled brats who can't handle life bothers me.